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Howard Foster

Posted: 23 Nov 2014, 22:27
by broomy7s
So that's 2 rather high profile early stoppages now. I just can't get my head round why he waved it off without starting a count. What I don't get even more tho is the board of control or whoever sanctioned the show, having the same ref down for 2 12 rounders on the trot. There was an abudance of a star referees there so why was this allowed to happen? Granted the Quigg fight wasn't the hardest to ref but surely there is still some mental and physical fatigue after 12 rounds.

Re: Howard Foster

Posted: 24 Nov 2014, 00:23
by reggaereggae
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Re: Howard Foster

Posted: 24 Nov 2014, 03:58
by forcefraser
reggaereggae wrote: Edited by Mod
That's harsh. It was an early stoppage for me as well, but he was the guy closest to Periban and maybe he saw something we didn't?

Re: Howard Foster

Posted: 24 Nov 2014, 08:41
by PokerRob
forcefraser wrote:
reggaereggae wrote:Edited by Mod
That's harsh. It was an early stoppage for me as well, but he was the guy closest to Periban and maybe he saw something we didn't?
How can you not even give the guy a stading eight count??? He had never been stopped before in 23 fights and fought good opposition!

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Re: Howard Foster

Posted: 24 Nov 2014, 08:47
by johnswan1
Clown should never ref a fight in this country again. Disgraceful stoppage to not even give the guy a chance to stand up.

Re: Howard Foster

Posted: 24 Nov 2014, 09:10
by littlepug
Bit harsh lads, think fosters a good ref even the groves stoppage don't look that bad after watching it again

Re: Howard Foster

Posted: 24 Nov 2014, 10:32
by Bard of Boxrec
johnswan1 wrote:Clown should never ref a fight in this country again. Disgraceful stoppage to not even give the guy a chance to stand up.
:TU:

It was pure incompetence. I can almost understand the Froch/Groves stoppage as it was in the heat of the moment. But Periban went down, Foster could see he was down, and he didn't even bother counting. Utterly terrible refereeing. These idiots know the criticism they get but still their pathetic officiating continues.

No doubt some chucklehead will chime in with the 'Better too early than too late!' nonsense. How about stopped at the right time.

Re: Howard Foster

Posted: 24 Nov 2014, 10:43
by taffytoon
Riddick Blowe wrote:
johnswan1 wrote:Clown should never ref a fight in this country again. Disgraceful stoppage to not even give the guy a chance to stand up.
:TU:

It was pure incompetence. I can almost understand the Froch/Groves stoppage as it was in the heat of the moment. But Periban went down, Foster could see he was down, and he didn't even bother counting. Utterly terrible refereeing. These idiots know the criticism they get but still their pathetic officiating continues.

No doubt some chucklehead will chime in with the 'Better too early than too late!' nonsense. How about stopped at the right time.
Here we go; hope this satisfies your needs -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaK-rBBMd6Q

Re: Howard Foster

Posted: 24 Nov 2014, 10:54
by Ricky_
Howard Foster must be terrible in the bedroom.

Re: Howard Foster

Posted: 24 Nov 2014, 11:14
by tobyh5
taffytoon wrote:
Riddick Blowe wrote:
johnswan1 wrote:Clown should never ref a fight in this country again. Disgraceful stoppage to not even give the guy a chance to stand up.
:TU:

It was pure incompetence. I can almost understand the Froch/Groves stoppage as it was in the heat of the moment. But Periban went down, Foster could see he was down, and he didn't even bother counting. Utterly terrible refereeing. These idiots know the criticism they get but still their pathetic officiating continues.

No doubt some chucklehead will chime in with the 'Better too early than too late!' nonsense. How about stopped at the right time.
Here we go; hope this satisfies your needs -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaK-rBBMd6Q
Good post, really relevant to a criminally early stopped fight. In fact to prevent any injuries in the ring I think we should have a poll before every match and just proclaim the poll winner as the bout winner too. No need to actually box the actual fight.

Re: Howard Foster

Posted: 24 Nov 2014, 11:18
by Taansend
Foster should never ref again.

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Re: Howard Foster

Posted: 24 Nov 2014, 11:35
by reggaereggae
Ricky_ wrote:Howard Foster must be terrible in the bedroom.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Bet he blows his beans in under 15 seconds!

Re: Howard Foster

Posted: 24 Nov 2014, 14:53
by handsofstone
I think overall Howard is a good ref but to make a worse mistake than the one he got crucified for is poor form

Periban was hurt and maybe after an 8 count he would be within his rights to stop it but Periban has never been KO'd and been in with some good opposition,he deserved the chance to steady himself which i honestly thought he could have,whether he would made the end of the round/fight is another thing but i agree with thr posts about neutral officials when it comes to International fights

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Re: Howard Foster

Posted: 24 Nov 2014, 14:55
by Rexob
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Re: Howard Foster

Posted: 25 Nov 2014, 13:18
by Loynesy
Ricky_ wrote:Howard Foster must be terrible in the bedroom.
Yep, as soon as someone goes down he stops the action.

Re: Howard Foster

Posted: 26 Nov 2014, 19:38
by dsimpson
He's done it before with DeGale, when he fought Dilks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz8lPVBR ... ata_player


Here's a few more of his stoppages:

Scott Jenkins v antonio Rodriguez:
http://touch.dailymotion.com/video/x16i ... ghts_sport

Josh warrington v Samir M:
http://touch.dailymotion.com/video/x16q ... gton_sport
 
Luke campbell v andy harris:
http://touch.dailymotion.com/video/x11v ... rris_sport

Ogogo v boulden:
http://touch.dailymotion.com/video/x11v ... lden_sport

Andreas evensen v alexander miskirtchian:
http://touch.dailymotion.com/video/xxej ... nsen_sport

Rees v Matthews
http://touch.dailymotion.com/video/xs1t ... hews_sport

Matthews v Marsili
http://touch.dailymotion.com/video/xrk1 ... sili_sport

Ashley Theophane v Ben Murphy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtX1JWwk ... ata_player

Re: Howard Foster

Posted: 26 Nov 2014, 20:53
by charliebox324
dsimpson wrote:He's done it before with DeGale, when he fought Dilks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz8lPVBR ... ata_player


Here's a few more of his stoppages

Scott Jenkins v antonio Rodriguez:
http://touch.dailymotion.com/video/x16i ... ghts_sport

Josh warrington v Samir M:
http://touch.dailymotion.com/video/x16q ... gton_sport
 
Luke campbell v andy harris:
http://touch.dailymotion.com/video/x11v ... rris_sport

Ogogo v boulden:
http://touch.dailymotion.com/video/x11v ... lden_sport

Andreas evensen v alexander miskirtchian:
http://touch.dailymotion.com/video/xxej ... nsen_sport

Rees v Matthews
http://touch.dailymotion.com/video/xs1t ... hews_sport

Matthews v Marsili
http://touch.dailymotion.com/video/xrk1 ... sili_sport

Ashley Theophane v Ben Murphy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtX1JWwk ... ata_player
Periban Wasn't Interested He Was Out Of Shape And Here For A Crimbo Cheque. Over Weight Sluggish And Being Given A Boxing Lesson.Fight Waved Just As Knockdown Happens.People Obviously Taken In By Bika And Abraham Fights.Periban I Am Sure Was Up For Them He Certainly Wasnt Saturday Night As He Looked He Had Been Dining At The Local Chippy. Everyone Has An Opinion!!!! Some Of The Posts On Here Are A Disgrace. Wouldnt Want To Be In A Trench With Some Posters On Here.Adios

Re: Howard Foster

Posted: 26 Nov 2014, 21:09
by dookus
Thanks dsimpson.

Another thread here on Foster's alleged tendency to stop fights earlier in favour of the house (or "A-side") fighter: http://www.BS.com/forums/archi ... 19309.html.

Maybe we should have a look around to see how many examples we can find? If there's a pattern here then further investigation is warranted.

Re: Howard Foster

Posted: 27 Nov 2014, 04:36
by stevieb_8006
I remember criticising foster on here pre the froch stoppage and in the guys defence he came on and argued his case really well.

Oh how times change, back then there were lots of "best ref in the country" posts.

In fact, the arse kissing he received was quite a spectacle. :lol:

Re: Howard Foster

Posted: 27 Nov 2014, 04:50
by Ian1973
Loynesy wrote:
Ricky_ wrote:Howard Foster must be terrible in the bedroom.
Yep, as soon as someone goes down he stops the action.

:lol:


He is way too quick to stop fights. Someone wants to tell him boxing isn't a non contact sport. :shame:

Re: Howard Foster

Posted: 27 Nov 2014, 05:48
by Parson Cross
Point the finger at Periban.
Turned up out of shape seriously overweight and was looking for a way out.
He even looked over to his corner and shook his head.
So whats a ref to do with a "fighter" that gets tagged and wants out of there ?
Send him out for another whacking ?
What would you all be like if he'd have made him carry on and he'd got hurt ?
Come on guys all for having a pop when justified but on this occasion ....
Hope the tosser enjoys his cheque.

Re: Howard Foster

Posted: 27 Nov 2014, 10:30
by Boxingcutsman
I personally think Howard is a good Ref, he's honest IMO and a decent fella, but he's human and has made mistakes, he has a split second at times to make a very important judgment call, unfortunately you can't always get them right.

He's been involved in many fights like the link I've put below of one of my fighters in a British Eliminator where he's allowed lads to carry on after being hurt or put down and this is the possibility of what happens, have a look and bare that in mind, it's a split second, tough call

The fight below took place 6 days before Froch Vs Groves 1

http://youtu.be/U52IeiCNeQg

Re: Howard Foster

Posted: 27 Nov 2014, 11:33
by jonp
tbf there dean Chris had gone down got up early and the finish was two fast shots so i dont think he could have stopped it any earlier he hadnt taken a sustained pounding and wile wobbly was still in control just the final two shots took him clean out really.

Re: Howard Foster

Posted: 27 Nov 2014, 13:26
by Boxingcutsman
That's not what I'm saying Jon, re-read my post, you've taken a piece of the post and wrongly interpreted I think mate, I'm not saying he should of stopped Chris earlier, he had no need too, that's not what I'm saying, id rather a ref jump in too soon rather than leave it and risk one of my lads being hurt, and before anyone says it, yes my lads have been at the end of bad ref'ing/judging decisions. Like I said, Howard is a good honest bloke and good ref IMO, So I was defending Howard and all refs in fact, they have a tough job to do and only a millisecond to react, sometimes they get it right sometimes they get it wrong, there only human

Re: Howard Foster

Posted: 27 Nov 2014, 13:46
by Rexob
Rexob wrote:Edited by Mod


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