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beatdown337 wrote:A lot of people think that Floyd is running from pac man. Personally I don't think so, but I don't knock anyone's opinion. I do however feel, that canelo poses a serious threat to anyone in boxing and Floyd accepted that challenge. So im curious, who do you guys think is more dangerous today?

fergusg wrote:

IKSRTFO wrote:Canelo punches harder but is textbook which makes him predictable. Pacquiao is more likely to cause an element of surprise and hit opponents with punches they can't predict. That's why Pacquiao was able to catch Mosely and put him down and Canelo couldn't despite being a harder puncher.

Do you not think that Manny’s fights often having catch-weight stipulations and rehydration limit clauses being imposed on his opponents, could possibly affect the durability of the men he faces?

I’m a big fan of Manny Pacquiao, but there is a legitimate reason why he’s known as the “Catch-weight King.”

I honestly don’t know of another fighter in the history of the sport that has faced so many men either at catch-weights or made them lose or gain 7lbs or so before he was willing to share the ring with them (i.e. Cotto, Margarito, Marquez, De La Hoya, Mosley, Bradley, Rios and Algieri). It is rumoured that many of Pacquiao’s contracts also have rehydration limit clauses built into them, which limits the amount of weight his opponents were allowed to gain by the time they stepped foot into the ring.

We also need to remember that Team Pacquiao has previously stated that they'd like Manny man to face:
• Canelo at 150lbs
• Mayweather at 145lbs
• Martinez at 147lbs and rehydrate to 150lbs, though they later conceded to a 150lb catch-weight

In terms of Mosley, when he fought Pacquiao, it was more than a year since he’d previously contested a welterweight fight, with his previous contest being fought in the light middleweight division. Shane had to agree to facing Manny with a 145lb catch-weight stipulation... and reports of a rehydration clause (though there was nothing officially announced on this).

I think that there’s an element of truth in some of the things you say about Manny's fighting style, but it seems to be a futile exercise comparing the punching power of Canelo & Pacquiao, when the Filipino often requires bigger men to fight "small" or vice versa.

ikorolev wrote:BOTH will hurt you MORE ?

Tomasino wrote:Can you imagine Manny NOT knocking out Matthew Hatton and Ryan Rhodes? Look what he did to Ricky..

hurricanemitch14 wrote:

Tomasino wrote:Can you imagine Manny NOT knocking out Matthew Hatton and Ryan Rhodes? Look what he did to Ricky..

beat me to it.......manny speed/power is still scary even without the kos. Canelo isn't knocking the top guys out either, hell he barely winning them.

fergusg wrote:It is rumoured that many of Pacquiao’s contracts also have rehydration limit clauses built into them, which limits the amount of weight his opponents were allowed to gain by the time they stepped foot into the ring.

Shane had to agree to facing Manny with a 145lb catch-weight stipulation... and reports of a rehydration clause (though there was nothing officially announced on this).

fergusg wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:

fergusg wrote:It is rumoured that many of Pacquiao’s contracts also have rehydration limit clauses built into them, which limits the amount of weight his opponents were allowed to gain by the time they stepped foot into the ring.

You're quickly turning into the forum clown.

I'd say give examples of these fantasy "rehydration clauses" for Pacquiao fights, but i'd be more interest in hearing about any fight that's had one (excluding where 1 guy hasn't made weight on the scales).

I’m at work, so I don’t have the time to research every single time a rehydration clause was either imposed, considered or rumoured, but I quickly found a link whereby Pacquiao’s handlers were trying to arrange a fight between the Filipino and Sergio Martinez, where the Argentine had to officially weight 147lbs, but could not enter the ring weighing more than 150lbs.
http://mmalinker.com/forum/martinez-pac ... 93852.html

Here’s another article from a trainer from Las Vegas:

http://spam.com/pages/content6455.html

Note: Replace the word "spam" in the above URL with the words "fight hype" [without spaces])

Like I said in original post, it seems as though there are some justification for the “rehydration clause” rumours. My opinion cannot be considered as a figment of my imagination when there are so many claims being made on the internet from seemingly reliable sources.

By the way, it took me less than five seconds to find those articles… would a “clown” be able to do that?

fergusg wrote:Rehydration clauses exist in the world of boxing!

fergusg wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:

fergusg wrote:Rehydration clauses exist in the world of boxing!

sorry your posts are very long winded and elaborate only to make a basic, often stupid point.

Rehydration clauses are myths for arm chair casual fans like you to conspire over.

Well… this undedicated “armchair casual fan” is going to educate a so-called “hard-core expert” of the sport of boxing, by proving that “rehydration clauses” really do exist!

In the following interview, Juan Manuel Marquez clearly states that he’s only willing to adhere to Timothy Bradley’s request to undergo VADA standard drug testing, as long as ‘Desert Storm’ doesn’t gain more than 10lbs after the official weigh-in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTkawsn5uxs

Here are Marquez’s very own words on the matter:

"I want... after the weigh-in, Braldey cannot gain 10lbs more, because he's heavy... He's too big. This is the rule. If he wants a doping test... I want no weight gain 10lbs..."

I mean, what more could you possibly want, other than words spoken from the proverbial horses mouth?

fergusg wrote: So my interpretation of Juan Manuel Marquez’s own words in the YouTube video is completely incorrect?