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Is Mickey Rourke a history maker?

Posted: 29 Nov 2014, 11:12
by reggaereggae
(I know I asked this in the Rourke thread, but I feel it's a legitimate question that warrants discussion.)

And by history maker, I don't mean the fighter to have had the most plastic surgery, or the only Oscar nominated, BAFTA award winning, undefeated pro boxer ever.....

BUT.... Is Mickey the oldest licensed pro boxer ever to win a fight?

Re: Is Mickey Rourke a history maker?

Posted: 29 Nov 2014, 11:17
by palooka
Although the thing is on some level a vanity project and a set up, Rourke does look in very good condition for his age I hope other people will use his example to try difficult things regardless of age, in some respects Rourke is a positive example to others.

Re: Is Mickey Rourke a history maker?

Posted: 29 Nov 2014, 12:09
by reggaereggae
palooka wrote:Although the thing is on some level a vanity project and a set up, Rourke does look in very good condition for his age I hope other people will use his example to try difficult things regardless of age, in some respects Rourke is a positive example to others.
I agree largely. Fvcked up plastic surgery aside, the man's taken risks, been to the bottom, climbed back up. And being a pro boxer at any level is an achievement, especially when you're in the limelight and many people either are waiting for you to fail or wanting to laugh at you.

He also loves his dogs. That shows a kind and sensitive side.

Re: Is Mickey Rourke a history maker?

Posted: 29 Nov 2014, 12:29
by Sklar
I don't respect anyone who has had cosmetic surgery.

Re: Is Mickey Rourke a history maker?

Posted: 29 Nov 2014, 12:31
by palooka
Sklar wrote:I don't respect anyone who has had cosmetic surgery.
I respect them when the surgery makes them uglier.

Re: Is Mickey Rourke a history maker?

Posted: 29 Nov 2014, 12:31
by 1 nut
Very sad this bout

Re: Is Mickey Rourke a history maker?

Posted: 29 Nov 2014, 12:33
by tobyh5
An obvious PED user though. Disagree strongly that he is in a combat sport and a known user of steroids.

Re: Is Mickey Rourke a history maker?

Posted: 29 Nov 2014, 12:45
by orbtastic
He's admitted to using steroids.

Re: Is Mickey Rourke a history maker?

Posted: 29 Nov 2014, 12:47
by lefty
tobyh5 wrote:An obvious PED user though. Disagree strongly that he is in a combat sport and a known user of steroids.
I'd imagine at his age he'd probably need them? Lol. I imagine his testosterone levels are pretty damn low.

Re: Is Mickey Rourke a history maker?

Posted: 29 Nov 2014, 14:23
by Rexob
Is there an age limit or cutting off point in the UK, that you can be a pro boxer?

Re: Is Mickey Rourke a history maker?

Posted: 29 Nov 2014, 14:37
by palooka
lefty wrote:
tobyh5 wrote:An obvious PED user though. Disagree strongly that he is in a combat sport and a known user of steroids.
I'd imagine at his age he'd probably need them? Lol. I imagine his testosterone levels are pretty damn low.
I bet his bollocks are empty leathery husks.

Re: Is Mickey Rourke a history maker?

Posted: 29 Nov 2014, 14:44
by HomicideHenry
Was an exhibition... so he broke no records... and far as I know of the record holder for being the oldest man to ever hold a professional license and actually won a professional fight was Saol Mamby. He was 60 years old (2008) in what was his last contest. However, I will note that the oldest fighter in history--- was Walter Edgerton, who kayoed John Henry Johnson, and he was 63 years old. Though I will argue, I feel that Jem Mace was probably the longest active fighter in boxing history, because he fought exhibitions into his 60's and 70's. His career started in the 1840's and he boxed on until the 1890's... Mace was 67 in his last pro contest...

Re: Is Mickey Rourke a history maker?

Posted: 29 Nov 2014, 15:27
by tonyevs
Rourke was a pretty bad pro boxer when he gave it a go last time. His 'opponents ' then we're very carefully chosen. I can only imagine this latest fella had very strict instructions on how to behave.

It's not a great advert for boxing.
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Re: Is Mickey Rourke a history maker?

Posted: 29 Nov 2014, 17:05
by deadpan
Rourke would still knock the Granny out of most of the Boxrec fraternity. And he nearly won an Oscar.

Re: Is Mickey Rourke a history maker?

Posted: 29 Nov 2014, 17:09
by Londonirish
Sklar wrote:I don't respect anyone who has had cosmetic surgery.

:lol: :roll: I'm lost whats that mean??

Are you Ugly and can't afford it?

Re: Is Mickey Rourke a history maker?

Posted: 29 Nov 2014, 17:24
by reggaereggae
HomicideHenry wrote:Was an exhibition... so he broke no records... and far as I know of the record holder for being the oldest man to ever hold a professional license and actually won a professional fight was Saol Mamby. He was 60 years old (2008) in what was his last contest. However, I will note that the oldest fighter in history--- was Walter Edgerton, who kayoed John Henry Johnson, and he was 63 years old. Though I will argue, I feel that Jem Mace was probably the longest active fighter in boxing history, because he fought exhibitions into his 60's and 70's. His career started in the 1840's and he boxed on until the 1890's... Mace was 67 in his last pro contest...
Thanks mate. So technically it was an exhibition, not a pro bout? I didn't know that.... I thought it was sanctioned.

Thanks for the info :TU:

Ps was Mace's contest an official bout?

Re: Is Mickey Rourke a history maker?

Posted: 29 Nov 2014, 17:30
by tonyevs
deadpan wrote:Rourke would still knock the Granny out of most of the Boxrec fraternity. And he nearly won an Oscar.

I would hate to think so ..

Re: Is Mickey Rourke a history maker?

Posted: 29 Nov 2014, 17:34
by deadpan
You've not seen them...

Re: Is Mickey Rourke a history maker?

Posted: 29 Nov 2014, 17:36
by Sklar
Londonirish wrote:
Sklar wrote:I don't respect anyone who has had cosmetic surgery.

:lol: :roll: I'm lost whats that mean??

Are you Ugly and can't afford it?
Yes, plug ugly and skint, you've nailed it. Well done.

People who feel the need to have cosmetic surgery are weak minded, low self-esteem types. That's why I don't respect them.

Re: Is Mickey Rourke a history maker?

Posted: 29 Nov 2014, 17:39
by reggaereggae
tonyevs wrote:
deadpan wrote:Rourke would still knock the Granny out of most of the Boxrec fraternity. And he nearly won an Oscar.

I would hate to think so ..
I doubt it. Bellew, Frankie Gavin, Paul Smith, and even Johnny Greaves post here. Boxrec ko1 Mickey Rourke

Not to mention that Midwest fighter/promoter/manager whose name I can't remember

Re: Is Mickey Rourke a history maker?

Posted: 29 Nov 2014, 17:47
by Londonirish
Sklar wrote:
Londonirish wrote:
Sklar wrote:I don't respect anyone who has had cosmetic surgery.

:lol: :roll: I'm lost whats that mean??

Are you Ugly and can't afford it?
Yes, plug ugly and skint, you've nailed it. Well done.

People who feel the need to have cosmetic surgery are weak minded, low self-esteem types. That's why I don't respect them.


:lol:

Re: Is Mickey Rourke a history maker?

Posted: 29 Nov 2014, 23:20
by Bricks
palooka wrote:Although the thing is on some level a vanity project and a set up, Rourke does look in very good condition for his age I hope other people will use his example to try difficult things regardless of age, in some respects Rourke is a positive example to others.
Of course he is a hero.I doubt the fight was a fix.Rourke s plastic surgery nightmare detracts from the following truths

A) he was a very decent amateur in the 60s and 70s.
B) he was mentioned in same breath as dean and Brando in 80s he was a character actor.
C) his run in early 90s as a boxer was no mean feat winning all those fights in his early 40s
D) he's crazy tough he challenged a 50 year old Carlos monzon to a spar in prison and got knocked out in a minute.conclusion he's vain but crazy

I don't think his physique is anything special at 64 but he's in shape

Re: Is Mickey Rourke a history maker?

Posted: 30 Nov 2014, 03:24
by tonyevs
Have a closer look, or even try to watch any of his fights from the 90's ... He was worse than bad. 100% celebrity boxer.

Rourke was/is a decent actor. But no doubt he was/is a terrible boxer.

Re: Is Mickey Rourke a history maker?

Posted: 30 Nov 2014, 08:49
by chiggsy

Re: Is Mickey Rourke a history maker?

Posted: 30 Nov 2014, 18:34
by Bricks
tonyevs wrote:Have a closer look, or even try to watch any of his fights from the 90's ... He was worse than bad. 100% celebrity boxer.

Rourke was/is a decent actor. But no doubt he was/is a terrible boxer.
C'mon antonio, those fights weren't world level fights ,they were barroom brawls but u have to give Rourke credit in 1990 he was an a lister still at the peak of his considerable powers and he gave it up more or less (an actors face being his tools of the trade) to fight in the ring.he was 40-43 that was v uncommon than.