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Re: Poor foreign fighters where do they get their wins?

Posted: 10 Dec 2014, 11:13
by funso banjo baby
is this about Deontay Wilder specifically?

Re: Poor foreign fighters where do they get their wins?

Posted: 10 Dec 2014, 11:14
by Fergz16COTJ
Against very poor foreign fighters :o

Re: Poor foreign fighters where do they get their wins?

Posted: 10 Dec 2014, 12:01
by black panther
funso banjo baby wrote:is this about Deontay Wilder specifically?
:lol: :TU:

Re: Poor foreign fighters where do they get their wins?

Posted: 10 Dec 2014, 13:03
by pyenest77
billy bessey wrote:It's obvious that some must be involved in stage fights are these held behind closed doors? Do they actually happen or are they make believe? Do they just drag people in off the street to take part in them? Anybody know anything about anything?
Something me & my old man talk about regular at shows. Some of them look incapable of beating anyone & completely lacking in the basics.

Re: Poor foreign fighters where do they get their wins?

Posted: 10 Dec 2014, 13:10
by JimJim2009
black panther wrote:
funso banjo baby wrote:is this about Deontay Wilder specifically?
:lol: :TU:
:lol:

Re: Poor foreign fighters where do they get their wins?

Posted: 10 Dec 2014, 15:34
by TheLeprechaun

Re: Poor foreign fighters where do they get their wins?

Posted: 10 Dec 2014, 15:37
by Karl Jade
funso banjo baby wrote:is this about Deontay Wilder specifically?
Respect for that. :lol:

Re: Poor foreign fighters where do they get their wins?

Posted: 10 Dec 2014, 15:45
by Coco
Bob Mee did a thing a while ago showing latvian's etc getting wins in sparring

Re: Poor foreign fighters where do they get their wins?

Posted: 10 Dec 2014, 16:23
by Baboon
Bloated records based pretty much exclusively on what are effectively gym fights. If you look at the locations of most of these wins on your average Latvian/Belarussian import you'll see a 'miraculous' coincidence where they batter some other punter with an 0-1 record at the same location time after time.

Re: Poor foreign fighters where do they get their wins?

Posted: 10 Dec 2014, 16:27
by los2
Coco wrote:Bob Mee did a thing a while ago showing latvian's etc getting wins in sparring
adam etches fights this latvian next......http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?cat=bo ... ......look at his wins......a lot of debutants or one win......

Re: Poor foreign fighters where do they get their wins?

Posted: 10 Dec 2014, 16:34
by Baboon
los2 wrote:
Coco wrote:Bob Mee did a thing a while ago showing latvian's etc getting wins in sparring
adam etches fights this latvian next......http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?cat=bo ... ......look at his wins......a lot of debutants or one win......
A true dangerman :wink: . He may actually be the exception, he holds a win abroad....but he dominates the debutants over in the mighty 'Club Rigas Rings'

Animal....Etches better watch out..... :D

Re: Poor foreign fighters where do they get their wins?

Posted: 10 Dec 2014, 16:55
by Old bones Ian
Alot of the fights of the latvians etc are done in gyms, so you have a ref, judge etc but no crowd (who would pay anyway)
so they get a few wins that way, logged with the latvian board and then brought over here as fodder for our boxers.

Re: Poor foreign fighters where do they get their wins?

Posted: 10 Dec 2014, 17:02
by chucktaylor
Baboon wrote:
los2 wrote:
Coco wrote:Bob Mee did a thing a while ago showing latvian's etc getting wins in sparring
adam etches fights this latvian next......http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?cat=bo ... ......look at his wins......a lot of debutants or one win......
A true dangerman :wink: . He may actually be the exception, he holds a win abroad....but he dominates the debutants over in the mighty 'Club Rigas Rings'

Animal....Etches better watch out..... :D

You've got that right
I thought he'd be an average opponent when I clicked the record, but this man is actually a former International Masters Silver SMW title challenger and former Baltic Boxing Union International champ. :oo

Re: Poor foreign fighters where do they get their wins?

Posted: 11 Dec 2014, 08:28
by jonp
If you look at some of the latvian wins at club rigas the refs are journymen fighters as well

Re: Poor foreign fighters where do they get their wins?

Posted: 11 Dec 2014, 09:32
by pyenest77
You've got that right
I thought he'd be an average opponent when I clicked the record, but this man is actually a former International Masters Silver SMW title challenger and former Baltic Boxing Union International champ. :oo[/quote]

Etches management turned down Lewis Taylor for (allegedly) a career best purse because it was a backwards step then meets this chap tonight.

Boxing politics eh cant beat them!

Re: Poor foreign fighters where do they get their wins?

Posted: 11 Dec 2014, 10:44
by Gnome
los2 wrote:
Coco wrote:Bob Mee did a thing a while ago showing latvian's etc getting wins in sparring
adam etches fights this latvian next......http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?cat=bo ... ......look at his wins......a lot of debutants or one win......
To be pedantic, the guy did beat a home fighter with a winning record in France a few years back.

Re: Poor foreign fighters where do they get their wins?

Posted: 11 Dec 2014, 11:31
by Tarkus
billy bessey wrote:It's obvious that some must be involved in stage fights are these held behind closed doors? Do they actually happen or are they make believe? Do they just drag people in off the street to take part in them? Anybody know anything about anything?
Boxing being an Olympic sport has presence in every country. The levels are lower in some places but fight are held nevertheless. Where do many UK journeymen get their wins, they don't fight on Sky either.

Re: Poor foreign fighters where do they get their wins?

Posted: 11 Dec 2014, 13:27
by expe
Gnome wrote:
los2 wrote:
Coco wrote:Bob Mee did a thing a while ago showing latvian's etc getting wins in sparring
adam etches fights this latvian next......http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?cat=bo ... ......look at his wins......a lot of debutants or one win......
To be pedantic, the guy did beat a home fighter with a winning record in France a few years back.
Been the distance with some decent fighters too.

Re: Poor foreign fighters where do they get their wins?

Posted: 11 Dec 2014, 13:50
by littlepug
Tarkus wrote:
billy bessey wrote:It's obvious that some must be involved in stage fights are these held behind closed doors? Do they actually happen or are they make believe? Do they just drag people in off the street to take part in them? Anybody know anything about anything?
Boxing being an Olympic sport has presence in every country. The levels are lower in some places but fight are held nevertheless. Where do many UK journeymen get their wins, they don't fight on Sky either.
uk journeymen are uaually pretty decent, they pick up the odd win over debutants or novice pros.

Re: Poor foreign fighters where do they get their wins?

Posted: 11 Dec 2014, 16:38
by Bleak
Coco wrote:Bob Mee did a thing a while ago showing latvian's etc getting wins in sparring
Great article that, right eye opener that, club Riga was a prominent venue,

Are a lot "American journeyman wins" picked up in school gymnasiums venues, it must be hard to
Facilitate boxing over there as there's that many different affiliations