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Posted: **14 Dec 2014, 01:25**

Here we go again! Apparently Khan looked great against Devon and it seems like many people thought he won every round.

Khan seems like a probable option for Floyd's next opponent, so the question is how much trouble could Khan and his incredible speed provide Mayweather?

Posted: **14 Dec 2014, 01:36**

A moderate amount. Khan's hand speed was insane. There is no way that Mayweather can see those punches coming and dodge them. The trick, as usual, is that Mayweather's positioning will make Khan struggle to find an unprotected location to throw punches at. Khan would need to initiate each exchange with credible feints, and switch-up his feinting pattern throughout the fight.

Posted: **14 Dec 2014, 05:24**

it would be the second most exciting setup for
a mayweather fight. both amir and manny are no
easy games for floyd. the great thing about amir
khan is that he is fearless, which could be terrible
or great against mayweather. age could play a
decisive role.

two great fights waiting for floyd. i would feel for
him if he lost the "0" so late in his career, yet if he
does not, he enters p4p heaven next year.

i feel like it will be difficult for floyd to justify
fighting neither man. so 2015 might become a
very exciting boxing year.

Posted: **14 Dec 2014, 06:14**

I thought the fight against Alexander would be dominant, but I didn't quite see that dominant a display happening. Virgin Hunter is doing an incredible job with Khan, and has given him some brains to match his talent. Alexander is a tricky opponent, and has beaten some great fighters, but he was absolutely outclassed like never before, and maybe never again.

As Malignaggi said in a pre fight interview, Khan can be a poison to whoever he fights. No one can match that speed. Mayweather 18 months to 2 years will still school Khan, Mayweather now will get the hardest fight of career. I am not saying Khan would win, but if the bookies offered me 5/1, I may put a tenner on it.

Posted: **14 Dec 2014, 11:41**

Its a fun fight and I still feel like it makes sense to make it before Khan gets KO'd again, which is something of an inevitability. He's looked a bit stronger and better defensively in his last few and seems to be improving under Hunter, but anyone who plants their feet and punches with Khan is going to have success. Mayweather vs Khan is a good fight to make, simply because of Khans speed and willingness to punch, regardless of the outcome. I wouldn't back Khan to win, but Id like to see how Floyd handled the speed and reach of Khan.... I'd rather see him fight Khan than go over old ground with someone like Cotto or Canelo, that's for sure.

Posted: **14 Dec 2014, 11:56**

I think if the Pac fight does not materialize, Floyd should fight the guy that KO'd Khan. Danny Garcia. Shut both Khan and Arum up once and for all.

Posted: **14 Dec 2014, 12:04**

Badhusker wrote:I think if the Pac fight does not materialize, Floyd should fight the guy that KO'd Khan. Danny Garcia. Shut both Khan and Arum up once and for all.

Garcia clearly isn't in any rush for that fight though... But maybe Garcia should give Herrera a rematch first anyway, but ironically I'd say Danny would be more interested in a rematch with Khan than Herrera, you know, risk vs reward and all that.

Posted: **14 Dec 2014, 12:08**

I think a disciplined Khan like last night beats Garcia.

Posted: **14 Dec 2014, 12:15**

Timmbo wrote:I think a disciplined Khan like last night beats Garcia.

I'd pick Garcia again to be honest, even though I think Garcia is more beatable than most do. Khan would always struggle against guys like Garcia due to his willingness to plant his feet and throw in the pocket. Garcia is willing to take some to land one and is rugged and durable and a solid counter puncher. He'd get himself in the right spots to land now and then and he'd catch up to Khan at some point and turn the fight even if he was heavily down on the cards.... I don't think its a good match up for Khan at all. Khan looks better under Hunter, but I think Garcia would always catch up to Khan over 12.

Posted: **14 Dec 2014, 12:15**

I guess people forget that Khan is easy to hit and has no chin. Floyd would KO him inside 6 rds.

Posted: **14 Dec 2014, 12:28**

I'm a big fan of Floyd but the truth is Khan is a tough stylistic match-up for Floyd. Khan and Lara are probably the 2 toughest fights out there for Floyd from 147 to 154 based on their style. Khan has and always will have a tougher style for Floyd than Pacquiao, I still think Floyd is all wrong for Pacquiao and Floyd would easily beat him (YES I SAID FLOYD EASILY BEATS PACQUIAO BUT STRUGGLES AGAINST KHAN!). Khan has the physical attributes that makes him a more dangerous fight for Floyd than Pacquiao, Pacquiao just isn't big enough to trouble Floyd he'd be forced to lunge in with shots and Floyd would counter him all day, where as Khan would have the advantage in height and reach so it would be Floyd who would have to find a way to close the distance against Khan and that's not with-in Floyds comfort zone. I agree with Paulie Malignaggi that people will be surprised when Floyd fights Manny and is the one moving forward and walking Manny down because Pacquiao will be using his legs and Floyd will be controlling range all night while standing right in front of Manny.

Posted: **14 Dec 2014, 12:45**

Let's just be clear about Khan's victory over Devon, first of all Alexander did nothing at all to make Amir uncomfortable; he allowed Khan to circle in a direction that was favorable to himself, he never changed levels on his punching, never provided any feints, doesn't have respectable punching power and stood too straight up allowing himself to be tagged whenever Amir threw shots.

Anyone who thinks Khan deserved some kind of respect for a victory like that is retarded and knows nothing about boxing, furthermore, anyone who thinks he deserves a shot at Floyd for that garbage win knows even less and doesn't deserve to be on this forum.

Posted: **14 Dec 2014, 22:50**

NateJR wrote:I'm a big fan of Floyd but the truth is Khan is a tough stylistic match-up for Floyd. Khan and Lara are probably the 2 toughest fights out there for Floyd from 147 to 154 based on their style. Khan has and always will have a tougher style for Floyd than Pacquiao, I still think Floyd is all wrong for Pacquiao and Floyd would easily beat him (YES I SAID FLOYD EASILY BEATS PACQUIAO BUT STRUGGLES AGAINST KHAN!). Khan has the physical attributes that makes him a more dangerous fight for Floyd than Pacquiao, Pacquiao just isn't big enough to trouble Floyd he'd be forced to lunge in with shots and Floyd would counter him all day, where as Khan would have the advantage in height and reach so it would be Floyd who would have to find a way to close the distance against Khan and that's not with-in Floyds comfort zone. I agree with Paulie Malignaggi that people will be surprised when Floyd fights Manny and is the one moving forward and walking Manny down because Pacquiao will be using his legs and Floyd will be controlling range all night while standing right in front of Manny.

Last I checked, Khan was 5'8 1/2" and Floyd was 5'8". Khan's reach is listed at 71", and Floyd's 72". Pretty even.

Posted: **15 Dec 2014, 01:25**

Badhusker wrote:I think if the Pac fight does not materialize, Floyd should fight the guy that KO'd Khan.

Breidis Prescott?! You're out of your mind. Why would he fight Breidis Prescott? There's no money in that.

Posted: **15 Dec 2014, 02:34**

I think priority should still be a Pacquiao fight. We all know how this fight ends. Mayweather beats Khan. This is why the interest level is so low. Lets keep things in perspective. Khan looked great this weekend against Alexander yes but Mayweather is not Alexander.

Posted: **15 Dec 2014, 07:56**

Lackeos wrote:
Badhusker wrote:I think if the Pac fight does not materialize, Floyd should fight the guy that KO'd Khan.
Breidis Prescott?! You're out of your mind. Why would he fight Breidis Prescott? There's no money in that.

No, The other guy that KO'd Khan. Danny Garcia. I think it would sell well - not like a Khan, Pac, or Cotto fight, but good. Pretty much the best guys at 140 and 147, and Garcia said he is moving up.

Posted: **15 Dec 2014, 08:26**

Virgil Hunter has done a good job with Khan in convincing him that he isn't Julian Jackson.

Khan is so much better as a slick boxer & that style would prove problematic for any opponent.

As for him beating Mayweather, I just can't see it, unless Mayweather grows old & that's not beyond the realms of possibility as he is now well into his 38th year.

If they do fight each other next, I'm inclined to think that Mayweather takes it on a close points decision, mainly due to the fact that 'Money' has slowed down a little bit.

Posted: **15 Dec 2014, 08:53**

I've not enjoyed a Khan fight since he left Roach, but, he does look more convincing. Khan can beat Mayweather but he has t do it the boring way. At this stage he's significantly faster than Floyd in hand and foot, he needs to pepper Floyd with 2/3 shot combos and get on his bike. I don't mind seeing this one, will be pretty intersting match-up of styles, Mayweatrher can't punch but you think he'd at least have enough to give Khan some bother if he can find some counter shots with weight behind them. Khan's so fast though that you think Floydw ould probably eat shots to land his counters, which isn't usually his style, he's used to slipping/landing, rather than eating 1 & landing like Marquez.

Posted: **15 Dec 2014, 12:11**

fergusg wrote:If you consider the top ten welterweights (as rated by ESPN & Ring Magazine) and then exclude fighters that Mayweather has already defeated, have recently lost or are contracted to Top Rank/HBO, the only available welterweight opponents for Floyd are:

• Keith Thurman (Has never defeated a top ten world-ranked welterweight)
• Kell Brook (Has only just arrived on the world scene and is an anonymous name in the US)
• Amir Khan (Hold victories over former welterweight champions, such as: Devon Alexander; Luis Collazo; Zab Judah; Marcos Maidana; and Paul Malignaggi)

Therefore, I believe that the only commercially viable welterweight opponent for Floyd Mayweather Jr. (not named Manny Pacquiao) for his next fight is Amir Khan.

It’s been a long time since we’ve seen Floyd engage with an opponent that doesn’t have the stereotypical 'stalk-til-they-can't-walk' type aggressive fighting style, which means that (from a stylistic point of view), Amir Khan poses a unique and refreshing challenge.

I’ve never been the biggest Khan fan, but I am intrigued to see how well Mayweather copes with Amir’s lighting fast flurries.

Does Amir Khan have a decent chance of defeating Floyd Mayweather? Probably not, but let’s not forget that the American is almost 38 years of age (so he’s at the stage of his career where he can grow “old” overnight), he doesn’t carry concussive punching power (so he may not be able to KO Amir) and there has been a pattern in his recent fights whereby the judges have shown an unreasonable amount of bias towards his opponents. Therefore, an upset is not beyond the realms of possibility.

IMHO the following are ahead of Amir based on what they've done and who they have faced whether they've won or lost:

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Timothy Bradley
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
4. Marcos Maidana
5. Kell Brook

We all know their stories:
MP=Nuff Said!!
TB had a Draw recently which really was a solid win and he lost to the next best in the sport in Pacquiao (who doesn't lose to him)
JMM-Lost to Bradley but totally obliterated Manny Pacquiao (Khan hasn't never seen anyone on that level in neither man)
MM-Sure Khan has a victory over him but as sure as Khan isn't required by anyone to avenge his losses to Peterson or Garcia, then neither should Marcos be held to a different standard, especially after he faced the best in the sport twice.
KB-he beat a legit Porter (still better than anyone on Amir's resume) and has routinely called out Khan who is very much afraid of him and running from him/hasn't even mentioned fighting Brook.

Everyone on that list has faced or beaten legit champions with a belt/title and proved they earned a shot at Floyd, Khan hasn't beaten a legit champion at WW yet and until he does then he can just get to the back of the line.

Hate Floyd or not but there's no way anyone can tell me that he deserves a shot at Floyd ahead of those guys on the list (yes, I know Money beat JMM already) but everyone else there showed they deserved the shot by at the very least beating a titleholder. Who has Khan beaten? Alexander, he's leftovers and spiraling down quickly.

Maybe Khan should focus on beating Peterson and then call out Danny Garcia before he goes to the top of the pyramid thinking and fooling the public into believing he's done enough to warrant a shot at Mayweather.

Posted: **15 Dec 2014, 12:12**

Khan looked good against Alexander but I still feel he's somewhat Zab Judah-esque, and that Floyd will have trouble with him for the first few rounds and then start shutting him down.

Hopefully CBS/Showtime can keep the pressure on and make Floyd/Pac happen.

Posted: **15 Dec 2014, 12:23**

KBB wrote: IMHO the following are ahead of Amir based on what they've done and who they have faced whether they've won or lost:

Marcos Maidana

Khan Beat Alexander in a shut-out.

Alexander beat Maidana in a shut-out.

Khan beat Marcos Maidana.

Brut.

Posted: **15 Dec 2014, 12:37**

Ricky_ wrote:
KBB wrote: IMHO the following are ahead of Amir based on what they've done and who they have faced whether they've won or lost:

Marcos Maidana

Khan Beat Alexander in a shut-out.

Alexander beat Maidana in a shut-out.

Khan beat Marcos Maidana.

And?? What does that supposed to mean? Khan got KTFO by Garcia and beaten by a nobody in Peterson. Like one thing means something over the other.

Brut.

Posted: **15 Dec 2014, 12:46**

If Maidana can give Mayweather trouble then Khan can as well.

Khan's the 2nd most interesting welterweight opponent for Mayweather after Pacquiao.

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Amir Khan
3. Timothy Bradley
4. Kell Brook
5. Keith Thurman

Posted: **15 Dec 2014, 12:58**

Khan will give Floyd fits, he is still improving and at his physical peak, Floyd has shown some signs of slowing. Khan would not go for a KO and he's got a really good chance of causing an upset.

Posted: **15 Dec 2014, 16:15**

palooka wrote:Khan will give Floyd fits, he is still improving and at his physical peak, Floyd has shown some signs of slowing. Khan would not go for a KO and he's got a really good chance of causing an upset.

How about the fits Floyd will give Khan? Nobody talks about that, as though Amir is going to have his way with Mayweather. Floyd has seen many Khan's but Amir has never seen a fighter like Floyd, not one fighter even remotely close that level.

Khan can't punch his way out of a wet paper bag from what I've seen. Floyd is not Alexander no matter how much y'all think Amir has improved fighting a guy who didn't change anything in his performance the way Floyd constantly shifts his game all the time.

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