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fergusg wrote:GGG’s fights are televised by HBO and the US events are co-promoted by Top Rank, who works with Golovkin's promoters (K2), which introduces a seemingly unsurmountable political barrier for him being able to face any Al Haymon affiliated fighter.

Therefore, this limits Golovkin’s options in regards to potential high-profile names.

Anyway, I’ve taken a look at some of the bigger names in the 160lb division and have the following thoughts:

• Miguel Cotto – Really a 154lb-er. More likely to face Canelo next. Cotto will never fight Golovkin… EVER!
• Peter Quillin - An Al Haymon fighter
• Sergio Martinez – A free agent, but he will be 40 years old if he fights again. Was dominated in his previous fight.
• Daniel Geale - Already defeated by Golovkin
• Jermain Taylor - An Al Haymon fighter
• Felix Sturm – Is 36 years old, considered past-his-prime and drew his last fight against Robert Stieglitz (as a super-middleweight) and also lost his previous 160lb contest against Sam Soliman. Is probably unlikely to ever consider engaging in another middleweight fight
• Sam Soliman - 40 years of age, injured and defeated by Jermain Taylor in his most recent fight
• Hassan N'Dam - Only one big name on his resume, which is Peter Quillin, who he lost to. May be fighting Jermain Taylor next (as he’s the mandatory challenger for his belt)
• Matt Korobov - He was stopped by Andy Lee in his previous bout. There would be zero interest in this fight for anyone at HBO or K2
• Daniel Jacobs - An Al Haymon fighter
• Matthew Macklin - Already defeated by Golovkin and was stopped by Jorge Sebastian Heiland in his previous bout
• David Lemieux - Untested and was himself stopped by Marco Antonio Rubio (who himself was destroyed by GGG)
• Billy Joe Saunders – Untested, should really be campaigning as a 154lb-er and was fairly fortunate to gain a victory over a novice (Eubank Jr.) in his previous fight. He has previously claimed that he wasn’t good enough to beat Golovkin (as interviewed recently by Box-Nation)
• Andy Lee – Even though he’s the WBO champion, which is a belt that Golovkin would like to capture, he has a track record of getting stopped and is a small 160lb-er. Lee is likely to make the first defence of his title in Ireland against his mandatory challenger, Billy Joe Saunders, which will be perceived as a big money domestic bout (of sorts)
• Canelo Alvarez – Is likely to fight Miguel Cotto in May and will then be kept apart from Golovkin for at least twelve months (as orchestrated by HBO, K2 & Top Rank) in order to help generate interest in a 2016 super-fight against himself and GGG
• Dmitry Chudinov – Holds the interim WBA World middleweight title and is unbeaten and an untested novice. He is also ranked number one by the WBA... and Gennady Golovkin holds that organisation's Super World middleweight belt

I my honest opinion, David Lemieux or Dmitry Chudinov is likely to be Golovkin’s next opponent, after he batters the feather-fisted Martin Murray inside five one-sided rounds in February… but there’s a small outside chance that a unification bout against the very beatable Andy Lee could be made, which would be reliant on K2 offering the Irishman a particularly lucrative payday (as he could instead earn a big purse for defending his WBO title against Billy Joe Saunders).

Am I the only one that believes that Golovkin’s options are extremely limited?

IRLangmaid25 wrote:Billy Joe Saunders is the WBO mandatory after beating Eubank Jnr which takes those two out till May-June eat the earliest allowing for purse bids and training camps winner of that might get Golvokin September October time.

After the Murray fight, Golovkin must be due a mandatory which I assume is Danny Jacobs who is the WBA 'regular' champion.

jezzamundo wrote:

fergusg wrote:GGG’s fights are televised by HBO and the US events are co-promoted by Top Rank, who works with Golovkin's promoters (K2), which introduces a seemingly unsurmountable political barrier for him being able to face any Al Haymon affiliated fighter.

Therefore, this limits Golovkin’s options in regards to potential high-profile names.

Anyway, I’ve taken a look at some of the bigger names in the 160lb division and have the following thoughts:

• Miguel Cotto – Really a 154lb-er. More likely to face Canelo next. Cotto will never fight Golovkin… EVER!
• Peter Quillin - An Al Haymon fighter
• Sergio Martinez – A free agent, but he will be 40 years old if he fights again. Was dominated in his previous fight.
• Daniel Geale - Already defeated by Golovkin
• Jermain Taylor - An Al Haymon fighter
• Felix Sturm – Is 36 years old, considered past-his-prime and drew his last fight against Robert Stieglitz (as a super-middleweight) and also lost his previous 160lb contest against Sam Soliman. Is probably unlikely to ever consider engaging in another middleweight fight
• Sam Soliman - 40 years of age, injured and defeated by Jermain Taylor in his most recent fight
• Hassan N'Dam - Only one big name on his resume, which is Peter Quillin, who he lost to. May be fighting Jermain Taylor next (as he’s the mandatory challenger for his belt)
• Matt Korobov - He was stopped by Andy Lee in his previous bout. There would be zero interest in this fight for anyone at HBO or K2
• Daniel Jacobs - An Al Haymon fighter
• Matthew Macklin - Already defeated by Golovkin and was stopped by Jorge Sebastian Heiland in his previous bout
• David Lemieux - Untested and was himself stopped by Marco Antonio Rubio (who himself was destroyed by GGG)
• Billy Joe Saunders – Untested, should really be campaigning as a 154lb-er and was fairly fortunate to gain a victory over a novice (Eubank Jr.) in his previous fight. He has previously claimed that he wasn’t good enough to beat Golovkin (as interviewed recently by Box-Nation)
• Andy Lee – Even though he’s the WBO champion, which is a belt that Golovkin would like to capture, he has a track record of getting stopped and is a small 160lb-er. Lee is likely to make the first defence of his title in Ireland against his mandatory challenger, Billy Joe Saunders, which will be perceived as a big money domestic bout (of sorts)
• Canelo Alvarez – Is likely to fight Miguel Cotto in May and will then be kept apart from Golovkin for at least twelve months (as orchestrated by HBO, K2 & Top Rank) in order to help generate interest in a 2016 super-fight against himself and GGG
• Dmitry Chudinov – Holds the interim WBA World middleweight title and is unbeaten and an untested novice. He is also ranked number one by the WBA... and Gennady Golovkin holds that organisation's Super World middleweight belt

I my honest opinion, David Lemieux or Dmitry Chudinov is likely to be Golovkin’s next opponent, after he batters the feather-fisted Martin Murray inside five one-sided rounds in February… but there’s a small outside chance that a unification bout against the very beatable Andy Lee could be made, which would be reliant on K2 offering the Irishman a particularly lucrative payday (as he could instead earn a big purse for defending his WBO title against Billy Joe Saunders).

Am I the only one that believes that Golovkin’s options are extremely limited?

You're certainly not the only one. Great post and thanks for the info

I agree that Lemieux and Chudinov look the most likely opponents. I disagree that Andy Lee is a small middleweight, but agree that Golovkin would probably make short work of him, but given he holds the WBO belt, I think he's the best of the three options.

fergusg wrote:

Purse Bid Shakedown wrote:Be careful with his info. For example he keeps insisting GGG is co-promoted by Top Rank despite being repeatedly corrected. 3/4 of his most recent US fights had no Top Rank promotional involvement whatsoever

I actually said that K2 Promotions was Golovkin’s promoter. Top Rank has been involved in some capacity in many of his fights (hence my "co-promotion" statement), since HBO & K2 have a limited pool of 160lb fighters at their disposal.

Stop trying to make up an argument when there is none. K2 Promotions is Golovkin’s promoter. Top Rank gets involved when GGG faces one of their fighters or one of their fighters appear on the undercard, which is often!

My information is factually-correct!

fergusg wrote:

expe wrote:

fergusg wrote: I actually said that K2 Promotions was Golovkin’s promoter. Top Rank has been involved in some capacity in many of his fights (hence my "co-promotion" statement), since HBO & K2 have a limited pool of 160lb fighters at their disposal.

Stop trying to make up an argument when there is none. K2 Promotions is Golovkin’s promoter. Top Rank gets involved when GGG faces one of their fighters or one of their fighters appear on the undercard, which is often!

My information is factually-correct!

Twice in Golovkin's career isn't often and they've never promoted or co-promoted one of his fights.

So, no, it isn't factually correct.

Are you suggesting that Top Rank fighters have only appeared on two of Golovkin's fight cards that were televised by HBO?

Do you want to double-check that?

fergusg wrote:@expe - Without checking, I'm fairly confident that Top Rank have been involved in some capacity in every single one of Golovkins bouts that were televised by HBO.

Put it this way, I reckon that it will be an extremely rare occassion that HBO will televise a US event that does not involve at least one Top Rank fighter.

fergusg wrote:

Purse Bid Shakedown wrote:Be careful with his info. For example he keeps insisting GGG is co-promoted by Top Rank despite being repeatedly corrected. 3/4 of his most recent US fights had no Top Rank promotional involvement whatsoever

I actually said that K2 Promotions was Golovkin’s promoter. Top Rank has been involved in some capacity in many of his fights (hence my "co-promotion" statement), since HBO & K2 have a limited pool of 160lb fighters at their disposal.

Stop trying to make up an argument when there is none. K2 Promotions is Golovkin’s promoter. Top Rank gets involved when GGG faces one of their fighters or one of their fighters appear on the undercard, which is often (as they're HBO's biggest promoter)!

My information is factually-correct!

Purse Bid Shakedown wrote:

fergusg wrote:

Purse Bid Shakedown wrote:Be careful with his info. For example he keeps insisting GGG is co-promoted by Top Rank despite being repeatedly corrected. 3/4 of his most recent US fights had no Top Rank promotional involvement whatsoever

I actually said that K2 Promotions was Golovkin’s promoter. Top Rank has been involved in some capacity in many of his fights (hence my "co-promotion" statement), since HBO & K2 have a limited pool of 160lb fighters at their disposal.

Stop trying to make up an argument when there is none. K2 Promotions is Golovkin’s promoter. Top Rank gets involved when GGG faces one of their fighters or one of their fighters appear on the undercard, which is often (as they're HBO's biggest promoter)!

My information is factually-correct!

GGG's 4 most recent HBO fights:

Rubio, had TR on undercard
Geale, no TR presence
Stevens, no TR presence
Macklin, no TR presence

1 out of 4 is not many. Neither is 2 out of 6 total. Clueless as usual, and a very slow learner.

zorndeslammes wrote:Well, at least we know where Rover's at.

Batley18 wrote:There is nothing left for him after Murray, who represents the best potential challenge. GGG will need to stop chasing Cotto, because he is going to wast time. He isn't 25, he is 32, so may only have 3 or 4 good years left in him. Step up and fight the winner of Groves Vs Dirrell.

ikorolev wrote:

Batley18 wrote:There is nothing left for him after Murray, who represents the best potential challenge. GGG will need to stop chasing Cotto, because he is going to wast time. He isn't 25, he is 32, so may only have 3 or 4 good years left in him. Step up and fight the winner of Groves Vs Dirrell.

Murray doesn't present ANY challenge worth mentioning. He is not particularly good in ANY aspect of boxing. He is just a well rounded boxer, but he doesn't have anything which could trouble GGG. Guys with a pop like Lemieux or Chudinov present bigger challenge.

Aaronide_ger wrote:Im so sad about Golovkin's limited options.. HE CANT EVEN UNIFY.. that is so unfortunate.

Lee just won the title and im sure he wont face GGG next, Had Korobov won that we would 100% see a Korobov vs GGG matchup..

Lemieux and Chudinov really dont seem atractive enough for me..

The only option that has 3-4% of happening is Julio cesar chavez jr at 168.. Imense PPV fight..

And after that fight Cotto-canelo winner at Summer..

I really hope everything goes good for GGG.. but I think 2015 will be another year with no unifications and no PPV stardom... as he is getting older he might be out of his prime by 2016..