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After last night...
Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 12:46
by VG_Addict
Who wins Floyd-Khan?
Re: After last night...
Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 13:04
by hurricanemitch14
the question should be who would win between khan and porter since they both dominated Alexander!!!!
Re: After last night...
Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 13:22
by Emil
hurricanemitch14 wrote:the question should be who would win between khan and porter since they both dominated Alexander!!!!
or who would win between Khan and Mayweather since they both had close fights with Maidana....
Re: After last night...
Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 13:28
by hurricanemitch14
u truly think khan deserves mayweather???
Re: After last night...
Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 13:31
by Emil
hurricanemitch14 wrote:u truly think khan deserves mayweather???
So who does? It's not like Mayweather always picks the most deserving fighters at welter.
I can name a couple of more deserving but I don't expect them to happen.
Also styles makes fights. Pacquiao and Khan are very challenging fights for Mayweather.
Re: After last night...
Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 13:31
by SNG
Why do people keep using this word deserve? What the fornicate does deserving it have to do with anything?
Re: After last night...
Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 13:34
by hurricanemitch14
sng ur right........i guess what bothers me is khan has been ko'd 3 friggin times.......hasnt changed his style and i get on here to talk boxing and there r multiple threads saying gayweather is scared......or who would win......r u guys serious??
Re: After last night...
Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 13:35
by MachoTime
SNG wrote:Why do people keep using this word deserve? What the eff does deserving it have to do with anything?
You stole the words right out of my mouth. My keyboard too.
Re: After last night...
Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 13:38
by BAD INTENTIONS
Khan did his thing last night. But I think the Showtime crew were trying to serve gallons of Kool-Aid.
Khan is still technically flawed and the leaping 3 punch combinations will not do anything to Floyd past the 3rd round.
Also, while Khan clearly won, many of the rounds weren't complete blowouts.
Re: After last night...
Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 13:39
by BAD INTENTIONS
MachoTime wrote:SNG wrote:Why do people keep using this word deserve? What the eff does deserving it have to do with anything?
You stole the words right out of my mouth. My keyboard too.
Well supposedly you are supposed to earn things by merit.
It's never really true, but the ideal sure is better than our reality.
Re: After last night...
Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 13:40
by PsychoGamerTwo
I rather want to see Khan vs Brook or Khan vs Thurman.
Re: After last night...
Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 13:42
by VG_Addict
BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Khan did his thing last night. But I think the Showtime crew were trying to serve gallons of Kool-Aid.
Khan is still technically flawed and the leaping 3 punch combinations will not do anything to Floyd past the 3rd round.
Also, while Khan clearly won, many of the rounds weren't complete blowouts.
I noticed that Khan still throws shoe-shine punches.
And is it just me, or did Khan lunge a lot last night?
Re: After last night...
Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 13:42
by handsofstone
I dont think Khan deserves a shot a Mayweather in the sense that he's the holy grail for what he brings to the table but i do think at the end of the day that Mayweather for however good he is and however many dollars he brings to the table,he is only a world champion like Paquiao and Brook and if you ask me does Khan deserve a shot at a world title then my answers yes,he is proven at world level and if Money feels he's bigger than the belts which he is then maybe he should vacate them because he must be the only fighter who doesnt have to do mandatories
Khans handspeed gives him real problems but although it wasnt too evident last night,they defensive flaws will still be there,i know Amir is fast but with the amount of flurrys he throws,he'll leave himself open and Floyd will have success with the counters
If Maidana can push Mayweather close(on the cards of their 1st fight at least) then so can Amir surely
Re: After last night...
Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 13:44
by hurricanemitch14
khan lunges in everytime........looks the same as alwys.......devon doesnt have pop to make khan pay.
Re: After last night...
Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 13:45
by Emil
BAD INTENTIONS wrote:MachoTime wrote:SNG wrote:Why do people keep using this word deserve? What the eff does deserving it have to do with anything?
You stole the words right out of my mouth. My keyboard too.
Well supposedly you are supposed to earn things by merit.
It's never really true, but the ideal sure is better than our reality.
Exactly. Though I have no problem with the term deserving, especially since it is boxing we are talking about, but who's deserving is merely an opinion that gets tossed around when the best are not fighting the best. You cannot become a champ if you don't get the chance to fight for it.
Re: After last night...
Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 14:50
by Perseus
Nobody with a glass chin is a challenge for Mayweather.
It will take a few rounds for Floyd to get the timing then afterwards somebody will ask how did Floyd suddenly become such a devastating puncher and declare that he juiced up for the fight.
Re: After last night...
Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 15:39
by KBB
VG_Addict wrote:Who wins Floyd-Khan?
How about who wins between Khan vs Garcia?
Khan vs Peterson?
Khan beats a guy who has already been beaten by lesser fighters and already because he beat Devon who did not do anything special in that bout we have a question like this!!
Allow me to breakdown Devon Alexander's faults that Mayweather never makes so it'll be easier for you to see why he (Khan) can never pull off what he did last night to Floyd:
Devon did not make Khan circle the opposite direction during the entire fight, he allowed Amir to be comfortable (Floyd won't), Alexander has no respectable punching power (Mayweather does), Devon added no feints, didn't change levels, didn't set traps, left huge holes in his defense to be tagged easily due to holding his head straight up, never used a stiff straight jab (something Floyd does regularly) and never put Amir's back on the ropes.
I'm not even sure why there is a perception that Alexander being used as a gauge to say how Amir would do against Floyd.
Re: After last night...
Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 15:52
by VG_Addict
Other than Pacquiao and Khan, who are these so called "fast" fighters Floyd avoided?
I'm looking at the Ring rankings from 2009-2013, and the only really fast fighters I see are Pacquiao, Khan, Malignaggi, Lara, and Martinez.
Re: After last night...
Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 16:00
by expe
hurricanemitch14 wrote:sng ur right........i guess what bothers me is khan has been ko'd 3 friggin times.......hasnt changed his style and i get on here to talk boxing and there r multiple threads saying gayweather is scared......or who would win......r u guys serious??
Someone else has been knocked out 3 times and everyone wants Mayweather to fight him. Khan's only been knocked out twice and he has changed his style, he's still not perfect but he's a lot more measured than he used to be, more thought and control in his boxing.
Re: After last night...
Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 16:02
by cold187
styles make fights, yes khan lost to mayweater, but his style is th eonly one that can cause floyd trouble thats why people want to see it.
people wanted to see hayve vs vitali, but what did he do to deserve it apart from hurt his pinky toe....again people felt his style might catch vitali
anyway, only options for may are
1. khan
2. garcia
3. thurman
4. brook
5. pacman
you can pick your self who is better on - value, tickets, skill and $$$$$$
Re: After last night...
Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 19:55
by KBB
cold187 wrote:styles make fights, yes khan lost to mayweater, but his style is th eonly one that can cause floyd trouble thats why people want to see it.
people wanted to see hayve vs vitali, but what did he do to deserve it apart from hurt his pinky toe....again people felt his style might catch vitali
anyway, only options for may are
1. khan
2. garcia
3. thurman
4. brook
5. pacman
you can pick your self who is better on - value, tickets, skill and $$$$$$
Obviously Manny is ahead of all of them with brook, Thurman and Garcia exhibiting far more skills than Khan who's only major weapon is his supposed speed (which isn't all that because he has no power to back it up).
Alexander and Collazo walked right through Amir's power, he'd get put to sleep in devastating fashion vs Thurman; hell at this point I'm prepared to say that Brook beats him.
Re: After last night...
Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 20:00
by Rodian
Khan has fast hands. So does Pacquiao. Pacquiao is better all around - defense, chin, footwork, experience, etc.
For anyone to say that Khan's "style", pitter patter jabbing on the outside with the occasional fury is superior to that of Pacquiao and would give Floyd more trouble is fornicating delusional.
Dont get me wrong, speed is the big common denominator for both men and both would trouble Floyd who prefers to fight slow fighters.
Re: After last night...
Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 20:57
by Badhusker
Rodian wrote:Khan has fast hands. So does Pacquiao. Pacquiao is better all around - defense, chin, footwork, experience, etc.
For anyone to say that Khan's "style", pitter patter jabbing on the outside with the occasional fury is superior to that of Pacquiao and would give Floyd more trouble is effing delusional.
Dont get me wrong, speed is the big common denominator for both men and both would trouble Floyd who prefers to fight slow fighters.
The truth is, pac and floyd are a level above any other guys out there. Hopefully they will get the fight made, and go out with a bang. Khan, Porter, Brook, Thurman, Guerrero, etc, can sort it out after these guys retire.
Re: After last night...
Posted: 15 Dec 2014, 21:32
by hurricanemitch14
expe wrote:hurricanemitch14 wrote:sng ur right........i guess what bothers me is khan has been ko'd 3 friggin times.......hasnt changed his style and i get on here to talk boxing and there r multiple threads saying gayweather is scared......or who would win......r u guys serious??
Someone else has been knocked out 3 times and everyone wants Mayweather to fight him. Khan's only been knocked out twice and he has changed his style, he's still not perfect but he's a lot more measured than he used to be, more thought and control in his boxing.
Manny has been ko'd once in the last decade.........not to mention Khan wouldn't last 3 rds. We're hyping p4p #1 vs the 3rd or 4th best JW. Style changes???? still lunges in......and he will get his head taken off soon!!!