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What boxers will lose their "0" in 2015?
Posted: 28 Dec 2014, 21:12
by Freedom2013
What undefeated boxers do you think are most likely to lose their "0" in 2015?
Nicholas Walters
Floyd Mayweather Jr
Terence Crawford
Gennady Golovkin
Kell Brook
Jessie Vargas
Danny Garcia
Deontay Wilder
Sergey Kovalev
Keith Thurman
Zou Shiming
Peter Quillin
Bryant Jennings
Carl Frampton
Scott Quigg
Guillermo Rigondeaux
Leo Santa Cruz
Roman Gonzalez
Re: What boxers will lose their "0" in 2015?
Posted: 28 Dec 2014, 21:24
by Lackeos
I find it unlikely that Wilder remains undefeated in 2015. If the Stiverne fight comes off, he probably loses. If the fight comes off and he wins, then he likely loses to Wlad later that year.
I figure Thurman will probably lose in 2015. There's a chance that he gets a shot at Mayweather in 2015, which means he's losing. If he doesn't get that shot, then he probably goes after another good contender at some point in the year, and there's a solid chance of him losing that one.
I figured I would vote for Jessie Vargas also. There's always a chance that he gets matched-up with a top fighter in 2015, in which case he's exposed to a lot of risk of losing.
Re: What boxers will lose their "0" in 2015?
Posted: 28 Dec 2014, 21:37
by ReggieDiggs
Karma says Jessie Vargas should be losing his 0 soon. He's got 2 or 3 unofficial L's in my record book already.
Based on the likelihood Bryant Jennings fight Wlad in April I think a L is all but guaranteed for him.
Floyd is turning 39 soon so I think he's a underrated option for losing his 0. Not a whole lot of guys have maintained their skills this late into the game & I'm not sure anyone has maintained a 0 at this high a level this late into their career. Guys tend to lose it overnight in their advanced years & Floyd is an old man in boxing years.
Deontay likely gots two big fights next year (Bermane & Wlad) if things go as planned & those fights are both huge jumps up in class so him dropping one of them wouldn't be all that shocking.
Carl & Leo will notch their first L if they fight each other or Guillermo.
I think GGG, Roman & Terence are guys who are likely to go into 2016 with their 0's intact. Roman is just badass. Terence seems to be the leading contender to take over the sport post-Floyd & Manny. And GGG seems smart enough to avoid Andre for the time being.
Re: What boxers will lose their "0" in 2015?
Posted: 29 Dec 2014, 00:19
by HyacinthusTurnipseed
Vargas, Wilder and Jennings are most likely. Quigg, Santa Cruz and D Garcia possible depending on the opponents they get.
The rest are unlikely to me, mostly for varying matchmaking reasons.
What about Anthony Dirrell? I'd say vs. Groves is 50/50.
Re: What boxers will lose their "0" in 2015?
Posted: 29 Dec 2014, 01:14
by davie
Freedom2013 wrote:What undefeated boxers do you think are most likely to lose their "0" in 2015?
Nicholas Walters
Floyd Mayweather Jr
Terence Crawford
Gennady Golovkin
Kell Brook
Jessie Vargas
Danny Garcia
Deontay Wilder
Sergey Kovalev
Keith Thurman
Zou Shiming
Peter Quillin
Bryant Jennings
Carl Frampton
Scott Quigg
Guillermo Rigondeaux
Leo Santa Cruz
Roman Gonzalez
The options in your post are not all in the poll?
From Zou Shimming down have not made it onto the vote
Re: What boxers will lose their "0" in 2015?
Posted: 29 Dec 2014, 01:16
by MachoTime
The poll could have very easily said which fighter do you want to see lose their "0". Yup that's the fighter I voted for..
Re: What boxers will lose their "0" in 2015?
Posted: 29 Dec 2014, 01:38
by davie
Nicholas Walters - Think he'll be involved in some big fights and there are guys who I believe could outbox him. loses his 0 on points decision
Floyd Mayweather Jr - Maybe it's all that floyd hate and the fact i'm a foreigner. But I think this might just be his year, depending on which opponents he picks he drops that 0
Terence Crawford - Without question the best lightwieght and if he steps up to LWW he will probably get an easy match. Keeps his 0 with 2 dominant victories in 2015
Gennady Golovkin - No-one touches this guy at middle and he's not going to be fighting Ward this year. So no chance of him losing a round let alone his 0
Kell Brook - Beatable and in a tough division but he is not going to be risked before a Khan fight can be made. 2 wins against mediocre opponents and keeps his 0
Jessie Vargas - Matthysee, Garcia, Peterson & Broner all have promotional blocks. Who does arum put him in with? Provodnikov? Can't see it. Keeps his 0 against poor opposition
Danny Garcia - Everytime I back against Garcia he proves me wrong. Had a poor year but things will improve keeps his 0 and moves up to WW in 2016
Deontay Wilder - Keeps his 0 for another 19 days.
Sergey Kovalev - No one touches him at LHW. Keeps his 0 and climbs the P4P table. Hopefully fights stevenson
Keith Thurman - Really depends who he faces. Good fighter, good puncher. not the best in the division. Can't see him getting the really big names in 2015. Keeps his 0
Zou Shiming - Keeps his 0 in a couple of overmatched fights in Macao
Peter Quillin - If he is willing to drop a title to avoid someone that Andy Lee beat, he'll protect that 0 easily
Bryant Jennings - I think he'll be Wlads next victim. No chance of keeping the 0
Carl Frampton - Keeps his 0 unless Rigondeaux boxes his lugs off, he beats santa cruz and quigg. Don't see rigo fight being made, so keeps his 0
Scott Quigg - don't see the frampton fight being made in 2015, Think he may get found out this year though. loses his 0
Guillermo Rigondeaux - No one touches him in and around his division and he cant get the big fights/paydays/tv deals. 0 will be intact in 2018 IMO
Leo Santa Cruz - Is the Frampton fight on the cards. i think so, he loses his 0
Roman Gonzalez - too good at fly or lower, possibly too good for the next couple of weight divisions too. probably wont be found wanting until the size issue becomes too much. keeps his 0
Re: What boxers will lose their "0" in 2015?
Posted: 29 Dec 2014, 03:11
by hulkmaniac
You forgot to include Andre Ward in the list? Oh wait he can't lose, if he doesn't fight.
Re: What boxers will lose their "0" in 2015?
Posted: 29 Dec 2014, 05:13
by Freedom2013
davie wrote:The options in your post are not all in the poll?
From Zou Shimming down have not made it onto the vote
Poll is limited to ten options.
Re: What boxers will lose their "0" in 2015?
Posted: 29 Dec 2014, 06:11
by crusader
ReggieDiggs wrote:Karma says Jessie Vargas should be losing his 0 soon. He's got 2 or 3 unofficial L's in my record book already.
I think he's arguably deserved to lose four fights, though admittedly I think a reasonable case for him winning can be made to various degrees in each of them.
Re: What boxers will lose their "0" in 2015?
Posted: 29 Dec 2014, 07:11
by Andrew
One who isn't on the list is Evengy Gradovich IBF Featherweight Champ I think his mandatory Lee Selby beats him. Close fight really looking forward to that one.
Re: What boxers will lose their "0" in 2015?
Posted: 29 Dec 2014, 07:42
by Andrew
Walters: I think Loma beats him on UD. Will be having a hard fight or two but I think can move up and do damage.
Floyd: next year is the biggest chance of it happening.
Vargas: Pacquaio fight is a mismatch not a bad fighter I would actually fancy Algieri to beat him.
Crawford: Future p4p king IMO his 0 stays regardless of who he fights at 140
GGG: no one at middleweight has a chance won't move up next year.
Kell Brook: he can stop Khan and if he does a big fight in America will be Nov Dec time I think that may be where the 0 Goes
Vargas: the pacquaio fight is a mismatch. But others can beat him I think Algieri has a chance.
Danny Garcia: All depends if he moves up. If he stays at 140 will keep the 0 as management won't put him in with people who are a risk. I'd like him v Guerrero at 147 though.
Deontay: I think Stiverne lands an overhand right and boom
Kovalev: will Stevenson even fight him ? Even if he does I still think his 0 stays.
Thurman: if he fights someone like Maidana Guerrero etc don't be surprised if he makes a statement by knocking them out. The boos from the last fight will motivate him.
Quillin: doubt he takes risks
Shining: no as some serious money to be made from him. Will avoid Roman Gonzales if he picks up the IBf belt.
Jennings: yes even if he doesn't fight Wlad other HWs will beat him.
Frampton: No the only super bantam he will lose to is Rigo and that won't happen.
Quigg: depends if he fights Frampton.
Rigo: No
Santa Cruz: earning big money fighting nobodies why risk it. Quigg beats him IMO and that won't happen. Politics will stop him fighting top ranks featherweights. Not sure how Mares or Gonzales do against him though .
Gonzales: watched a couple of his fights like him. He has already beaten Estrada and if Shiming wins the IBf that won't happen. Probably stays unbeaten.
Re: What boxers will lose their "0" in 2015?
Posted: 29 Dec 2014, 15:11
by p4p1
Call me but I agree with a couple of guys who have said Floyd I think it is very possible based in the opponents who are the favourites for him to face but mostly the fact he is old for a fighter. I can't think of the last real quick guy he fought either it must have been a few years.
Re: What boxers will lose their "0" in 2015?
Posted: 29 Dec 2014, 22:09
by Tarkus
I went for:
Jessie Vargas
Danny Garcia
Deontay Wilder
Re: What boxers will lose their "0" in 2015?
Posted: 30 Dec 2014, 22:18
by davie
Freedom2013 wrote:davie wrote:The options in your post are not all in the poll?
From Zou Shimming down have not made it onto the vote
Poll is limited to ten options.
Ahhh