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Using the same analogy that many claims that "other" fighters are judged by, would you call 3G a DUCKER based on this??

Or is there a double standard that only applies to those "other" fighters and not 3G??

Just asking, please don't reply all butthurt!!

At this point Golovkin is just collecting belts and trying to unify the division. Lara doesn't have a belt and isn't a big name so there's really no point.

beatdown337 wrote:At this point Golovkin is just collecting belts and trying to unify the division. Lara doesn't have a belt and isn't a big name so there's really no point.

So these guys names are bigger than Lara's???

Osumanu Adama, Nobuhiro Ishida, Gregorz Proksa and Curtis Stevens?

It's definitely a fight I'd like to see and Lara is probably best equipped to handle GGG at 154. But I don't think the fight is so overdue that it can be called ducking yet. GGG seems like he might be the type to fight all his mandatories instead of giving up belts. So maybe Lara's best bet is to become a mandatory.

WadeGwynn wrote:It's definitely a fight I'd like to see and Lara is probably best equipped to handle GGG at 154. But I don't think the fight is so overdue that it can be called ducking yet. GGG seems like he might be the type to fight all his mandatories instead of giving up belts. So maybe Lara's best bet is to become a mandatory.

I see, it appears that we are giving 3G a pass while holding others to a different standard when it comes to ducking. Am I stating that G is ducking him, absolutely not but I am saying that others have been called Ducks based on this same criteria 3G is using to not make this fight.

Why is it that they are considered "ducks" and he isn't???

KBB wrote:

WadeGwynn wrote:It's definitely a fight I'd like to see and Lara is probably best equipped to handle GGG at 154. But I don't think the fight is so overdue that it can be called ducking yet. GGG seems like he might be the type to fight all his mandatories instead of giving up belts. So maybe Lara's best bet is to become a mandatory.

I see, it appears that we are giving 3G a pass while holding others to a different standard when it comes to ducking. Am I stating that G is ducking him, absolutely not but I am saying that others have been called Ducks based on this same criteria 3G is using to not make this fight.

Why is it that they are considered "ducks" and he isn't???

How the hell can he be ducking him if Lara isn't a mandatory for any of his belts? If Lara wants a beating all he has to do move up to 160 and become a mandatory and I'm more than certain that Triple G will oblige him.

At this point, like the article states, Lara has nothing to offer Triple G.

Baby Face Finster wrote:

KBB wrote:

WadeGwynn wrote:It's definitely a fight I'd like to see and Lara is probably best equipped to handle GGG at 154. But I don't think the fight is so overdue that it can be called ducking yet. GGG seems like he might be the type to fight all his mandatories instead of giving up belts. So maybe Lara's best bet is to become a mandatory.

I see, it appears that we are giving 3G a pass while holding others to a different standard when it comes to ducking. Am I stating that G is ducking him, absolutely not but I am saying that others have been called Ducks based on this same criteria 3G is using to not make this fight.

Why is it that they are considered "ducks" and he isn't???

How the hell can he be ducking him if Lara isn't a mandatory for any of his belts? If Lara wants a beating all he has to do move up to 160 and become a mandatory and I'm more than certain that Triple G will oblige him.

At this point, like the article states, Lara has nothing to offer Triple G.

It's not at this point though. The article is from February. Since then GGG fought Geale and Rubio and faces Murray next.

So what are we giving him a pass for, KBB?

For what its worth - GGG said himself he hates fighting guys with styles like Lara. I would imagine they see Lara as a bad style match - up, with little reward.

Lara should go up and try to get a belt from one of the other champs at 160, then he can get the GGG fight.

Badhusker wrote:For what its worth - GGG said himself he hates fighting guys with styles like Lara. I would imagine they see Lara as a bad style match - up, with little reward.

Lara should go up and try to get a belt from one of the other champs at 160, then he can get the GGG fight.

He never said that, his trainer also said that he can fight ANY type of fighter with the same difficulty. He beat Andre Direll in the amateurs.

Aaronide_ger wrote:

Badhusker wrote:For what its worth - GGG said himself he hates fighting guys with styles like Lara. I would imagine they see Lara as a bad style match - up, with little reward.

Lara should go up and try to get a belt from one of the other champs at 160, then he can get the GGG fight.

He never said that, his trainer also said that he can fight ANY type of fighter with the same difficulty. He beat Andre Direll in the amateurs.

He said it in an interview. He was talking about preferring to fight guys like Cotto and Canelo that come to fight and not box and run. Why would I just make that up?

This stuff always depends on who you like or don't like for some people lol. If you like GGG he's never ducking. If you hate GGG he's always ducking. Same goes for Floyd & Manny or whoever.

I say fighters wanna fight, BUT you can't fight everyone & sometimes it don't make any sort of sense to fight a guy too low from where you are at or even too high in certain cases. In these sorta situation though its not even about that to me. GGG & Erislandy are in different divisions. I don't believe its reasonable to suggest anyone is avoiding someone outside of their own division. If Erislandy moved up & started winning then that is something that could be entertained as a potential reality.

Badhusker wrote:

Aaronide_ger wrote:

Badhusker wrote:For what its worth - GGG said himself he hates fighting guys with styles like Lara. I would imagine they see Lara as a bad style match - up, with little reward.

Lara should go up and try to get a belt from one of the other champs at 160, then he can get the GGG fight.

He never said that, his trainer also said that he can fight ANY type of fighter with the same difficulty. He beat Andre Direll in the amateurs.

He said it in an interview. He was talking about preferring to fight guys like Cotto and Canelo that come to fight and not box and run. Why would I just make that up?

Did he say that in English ? I don't think he is capable of producing such complicated sentence.

KBB wrote:

beatdown337 wrote:At this point Golovkin is just collecting belts and trying to unify the division. Lara doesn't have a belt and isn't a big name so there's really no point.

So these guys names are bigger than Lara's???

Osumanu Adama, Nobuhiro Ishida, Gregorz Proksa and Curtis Stevens?

When he fought Proksa and Ishida, he was not a big name. Stevens was a good test for his chin and a type of fight HBO likes. He fought Adama in Monaco, and Loefler couldn'y find anybody better to agree to take that fight. Even French N'Dam declined it. Murray who can't fight in the U.S. also declined. So did Geale.

Also, when Lara called Golovkin out, GBP fighters were not fighting on HBO, so Loefler would need to break walls in order to arrange a fight with an unpopular opponent from a lower weight class.

He never said that, his trainer also said that he can fight ANY type of fighter with the same difficulty. He beat Andre Direll in the amateurs.[/quote]

He said it in an interview. He was talking about preferring to fight guys like Cotto and Canelo that come to fight and not box and run. Why would I just make that up? [/quote]

Did he say that in English ? I don't think he is capable of producing such complicated sentence.[/quote]

I honestly don't remember if it was in print or a live interview. What I do remember is him saying that he preferred guys that come to fight, and hated guys that ran from him. I think him vs Lara would be another Canelo vs Lara, only GGG would catch Lara.

Doesn't everybody prefer to fight opponents who stand in front of them ?

Baby Face Finster wrote:How the hell can he be ducking him if Lara isn't a mandatory for any of his belts? If Lara wants a beating all he has to do move up to 160 and become a mandatory and I'm more than certain that Triple G will oblige him.

At this point, like the article states, Lara has nothing to offer Triple G.

This article was written in February last year and since then Lara has been doing nothing but beating top tiered fighters and wanting to make a name for himself. Some of y'all are flakier than pie crust; by the same criteria you guys apply to Mayweather the same in this article is being applied to 3G and yet y'all are making excuses like "he has nothing to offer him" but then you say Khan should be allowed to fight Floyd when the same analogy "he has nothing to offer him" applies.

Personally I never stated 3G was ducking, I asked questions and formulated a comparison based on the contents of the article and the opinions of others here. You guys get all pissed and sensitive when it's someone you like but when it's someone you don't then it's bombs away.

People here are stating that the likes of these characters (Osumanu Adama, Nobuhiro Ishida, Gregorz Proksa and Curtis Stevens are more worthy to face 3G) but Lara isn't, sounds like a bunch of excuses to me.

Sorry everybody is picking on Floyd, Brut. But at least he has you to keep him company

GGG is ducking Lara as much as Ward/Froch are ducking Cotto/GGG.

KBB wrote:

Baby Face Finster wrote:How the hell can he be ducking him if Lara isn't a mandatory for any of his belts? If Lara wants a beating all he has to do move up to 160 and become a mandatory and I'm more than certain that Triple G will oblige him.

At this point, like the article states, Lara has nothing to offer Triple G.

This article was written in February last year and since then Lara has been doing nothing but beating top tiered fighters and wanting to make a name for himself. Some of y'all are flakier than pie crust; by the same criteria you guys apply to Mayweather the same in this article is being applied to 3G and yet y'all are making excuses like "he has nothing to offer him" but then you say Khan should be allowed to fight Floyd when the same analogy "he has nothing to offer him" applies.
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I suppose if you count losing a decision against Canelo as winning then you're right. And counting Ishe Smith as top opposition. Somehow I don't agree though.

KBB wrote:http://www.boxingnews24.com/2014/02/gol ... lara-bout/

Using the same analogy that many claims that "other" fighters are judged by, would you call 3G a DUCKER based on this??

Or is there a double standard that only applies to those "other" fighters and not 3G??

What do you have against Golovkin, Brut aka KBB?

What part of "Lara is a Al Haymon fighter and Haymon's boxers don't fight on HBO" do you fail to understand?

I'd love to see Golovkin vs. Lara, but because of Haymon/HBO politics, it can't happen.

What is this a year old story? No accident that troll website should be digging up that old sht to keep trolling going.

Dont be butthurt, I am just saying that that story is old, long dead and buried.

KBB wrote:

beatdown337 wrote:At this point Golovkin is just collecting belts and trying to unify the division. Lara doesn't have a belt and isn't a big name so there's really no point.

So these guys names are bigger than Lara's???

Osumanu Adama, Nobuhiro Ishida, Gregorz Proksa and Curtis Stevens?

No doubt that lara is a bigger name than these guys, but what these guys do have is that they are in the same weight class as ggg. For whatever reason I see people mentioning mayweather in this thread. Im a fan of Floyd and ggg and in my opinion I don't see how anyone can make the claim that ggg is ducking anyone. Any fighter in his weight class seems like an option for him if possible.

his manager should shut up.

he doesnt understand what he is doing to ggg's reputation.

if some quality boxer liek lara says "i want ggg", than the response should "you on the future get wrecked list", anything else is ducking.

Freedom2013 wrote:

KBB wrote:http://www.boxingnews24.com/2014/02/gol ... lara-bout/

Using the same analogy that many claims that "other" fighters are judged by, would you call 3G a DUCKER based on this??

Or is there a double standard that only applies to those "other" fighters and not 3G??

What do you have against Golovkin, Brut aka KBB?

What part of "Lara is a Al Haymon fighter and Haymon's boxers don't fight on HBO" do you fail to understand?

I'd love to see Golovkin vs. Lara, but because of Haymon/HBO politics, it can't happen.

Wow, did I say I have something against 3g?

I asked a question and all of the Europeans and white people are getting upset, why is that?

I understand the situation perfectly regarding their promoters but this same analogy has been applied to many other fighters who have been labeled as duckers for the same reasons in this particular scenario yet not one of you have applied that title to 3G.

I've read numerous threads of this fighter is ducking that fighter on this forum even though one fighter is with one network or promoter and the other guy is also but yet I hear the term "duck" thrown out here as though it only applies to a few (people were saying the same thing about Stevenson vs Kovalev, now Adonis has addressed this and yet he is still called a ducker).

KBB, the racist clown up to his usual post standard.

Lara's manager said they would only fight GGG on Showtime. Lara is ducking GGG, then.