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HBO SCARED THIS TIME AROUND!! WHY??

Posted: 18 Jan 2015, 12:49
by KBB
by Ronnie Nathanielsz

UNDEFEATED pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather Jr. wants the May 2 fight against eight-division world champion Manny Pacquiao, but the executive vice president and general manager of Showtime in Stephen Espinoza said the issue of which network will televise the delayed broadcast between Showtime and HBO Sports is holding up a final agreement.

Showtime has completed four fights in a $200 million six-fight deal with Mayweather, while HBO Sports carries Pacquiao’s fights.

Back when the networks got together in 2002 to stage the Mike Tyson vs. Lennox Lewis pay-per-view, they contractually agreed to allow the winner's network to secure the delayed broadcast of the pay-per-view. This time around, HBO is not willing to agree to those terms. HBO wants both networks to have the delayed broadcast. Insiders believe HBO is taking that position because Mayweather is the favorite to win.

Espinoza was quoted by Steve Carp of the Las Vegas Review Journal, that while the two networks have “a congenial relationship, each network has its own financial objectives.”

Pacquiao and his longtime adviser Michael Koncz met with Top Rank promoter Bob Arum at his home in Los Angeles yesterday, with the adviser explaining the details to the Filipino who, he said, “is comfortable with everything.”

He indicated to Carp that it also included a Plan B in case the Mayweather fight doesn’t push through, but Arum declined to get into the details, emphasizing their focus is on Mayweather.

“We’re waiting on him,” Arum said.

Koncz, who flew to New York with Pacquiao, confirmed what Arum told BS/Manila Standard/Viva Sports, that “there’s nothing from Floyd’s side yet.”

The terms have been reportedly agreed upon, including the May 2 date, the MGM Grand Garden venue, a 60-40 split in favor of Mayweather and after some discussion, both sides have agreed to random drug testing by the United States Anti-Doping Agency.

Espinoza indicated that Mayweather was aware of what was going on regarding the negotiations and reiterated what strength and conditioning coach Alex Ariza said that the American wants the Pacquiao fight badly.

“Mayweather is more motivated than ever to get this fight done,” said Espinoza.

Espinoza believes it’s in the interest of both sides to get this resolved as soon as possible.

“Rather than say there is a drop-dead date, I would look at it more as we’re running a race and what’s important is crossing the finish line. If we don’t cross the finish line, it doesn’t matter how close we are. But I can tell you, there’s still a lot of race to be run,” he said.

Re: HBO SCARED THIS TIME AROUND!! WHY??

Posted: 18 Jan 2015, 13:47
by ikorolev
HBO is not scared. They are just realistic. They know that Mayweather has good chances to get a decision in Vegas, and they don't want to lose potential profit. Mayweather is a clear A side, but HBO doesn't want to be a B side. This has nothing to do with being scared.

Re: HBO SCARED THIS TIME AROUND!! WHY??

Posted: 18 Jan 2015, 15:51
by KBB
ikorolev wrote:HBO is not scared. They are just realistic. They know that Mayweather has good chances to get a decision in Vegas, and they don't want to lose potential profit. Mayweather is a clear A side, but HBO doesn't want to be a B side. This has nothing to do with being scared.

BS! If they weren't then they would've been as willing as they were when Tyson fought Lewis. HBO knows that they have no confidence in Manny.

Re: HBO SCARED THIS TIME AROUND!! WHY??

Posted: 18 Jan 2015, 21:55
by KBB
fergusg wrote:
KBB wrote:
ikorolev wrote:HBO is not scared. They are just realistic. They know that Mayweather has good chances to get a decision in Vegas, and they don't want to lose potential profit. Mayweather is a clear A side, but HBO doesn't want to be a B side. This has nothing to do with being scared.

BS! If they weren't then they would've been as willing as they were when Tyson fought Lewis. HBO knows that they have no confidence in Manny.
Stop being silly! HBO & Showtime would have learned from the Lewis-Tyson joint-PPV and altered their business strategy accordingly!
How am I being silly if I'm reporting what is being stated? Just because I'm calling them cowardly doesn't mean that I'm not telling the truth.

HBO did what they did with boldness in the Lewis vs Tyson fight but they are appearing to be unwilling or unconfident in taking chances vs Floyd on this one.

Re: HBO SCARED THIS TIME AROUND!! WHY??

Posted: 19 Jan 2015, 03:09
by ReggieDiggs
This would be hilarious if the premium channels f#cked up this fight from happening.

Re: HBO SCARED THIS TIME AROUND!! WHY??

Posted: 19 Jan 2015, 11:50
by Deadendgeneration
Showtime are locked into a high paying contract with Mayweather. If he doesn't fight Manny, they're probably going to lose out. HBO on the other hand are not so contractually obliged with Manny.

Re: HBO SCARED THIS TIME AROUND!! WHY??

Posted: 19 Jan 2015, 12:04
by Purse Bid Shakedown
fergusg wrote:
Deadendgeneration wrote:Showtime are locked into a high paying contract with Mayweather. If he doesn't fight Manny, they're probably going to lose out. HBO on the other hand are not so contractually obliged with Manny.
Floyd’s contract with Showtime guarantees him a payday of $32m per fight. His previous bout against Marcos Maidana attracted 925K PPV buys.

Manny Pacquiao earned $25m to face Algieri, for a PPV event that is rumoured to have drawn just over 300K buys on HBO.

You do the maths? Did you check the numbers before you submitted your post? Who is paying Manny's fight purse?
Arum, you tedious fcuk.

Re: HBO SCARED THIS TIME AROUND!! WHY??

Posted: 19 Jan 2015, 18:26
by KBB
fergusg wrote:Accusations of being "Scared", "Fear" or "Cowardice" is not appropriate when a business makes a commercial decision in order to maximise revenue.

It's not unreasonable to expect HBO to want to cover all bases or to avoid situations that could negatively impact revenue realisation!
Yes they are/will covering/cover all bases but it is obvious as to why they aren't so quick to jump at the deal in the way they did with Tyson vs Lewis.

Let's just agree to disagree, you see it as a business thing of which it is and I see it as a business thing also but one with stipulations that they are afraid to make in the case of dealing with Mayweather because they think he'll win.

Re: HBO SCARED THIS TIME AROUND!! WHY??

Posted: 20 Jan 2015, 07:14
by Badhusker
Reading what Arum has to say now about the fight is actually kind of funny. He says "We have agreed to all of Mayweather's demands, and have signed our part of the contract." Mayweather now has another deadline. FYI, he said the exact same thing in 2010.

Re: HBO SCARED THIS TIME AROUND!! WHY??

Posted: 20 Jan 2015, 12:06
by KBB
Badhusker wrote:Reading what Arum has to say now about the fight is actually kind of funny. He says "We have agreed to all of Mayweather's demands, and have signed our part of the contract." Mayweather now has another deadline. FYI, he said the exact same thing in 2010.
Arum is full of sh*t, they haven't signed anything yet; the agreement is for public edification and is just that an "agreement" because neither of them can do nothing on this at the moment until the networks set their financials in agreement then full disclosure can be made.

All the dumb ass pacTURDS here are just trying to use the BS Arum states to bolster their own delusional belief that Floyd is supposedly afraid of Pacquiao.

Dumb logic from even dumber fans.