Page 1 of 1
If you got a 120 + million payday infront of you
Posted: 23 Jan 2015, 09:21
by Chepppaaa
what would you do?
go at the table and make business with busienss partners or go to vacation and let a strength and conditioning coach speak about your business
floyd is so dumb, if he does not want to fight, than do not say it. dont say you want the fight and in the middle of negociations when the opponent infront of you says "yes i am willing to do what you want me to do," suddenly go to australia and let a third person talk for you about your own business, isnt floyd alwys saying only him is the boss and only he talks?
I thought floyd was his own boss and that only he talks, so why does he not go at the table and discusses the thing with bob and end it. and than all the flomos talking about, where is the signed contract. who cares if he is signed or not, what matters is that manny aggreed and than floyd can read the terms with his advocate and both sign together. like manny would say infront of tv something totaly different from what is on the contract, why would he do so. this makes no sense. manny says every day, he wants the fight and he said yes to whatever floyd wants, that says to me than manny realy wants it and what does floyd do, make vacation. that action of just flying to the end of the world says a lot. also saying no to 120 + just because there is an old man you dont like involved is so childish.
this reminds me so much of 2008, when floyd also took a 1 year vacation to avoid prime manny, prime cotto, prime margarito.....and now 2015 and back making vacation. dude, if you dont wanna box, okay, but than stay retired.
Re: If you got a 120 + million payday infront of you
Posted: 23 Jan 2015, 21:33
by Badhusker
I will type slow so you can understand. When the networks get their part settled, they will draw up a contract and Floyd and Manny will sign. Until then, anyone that says they have already signed their part of the contract is lying.
As rumor has it, both Manny and Floyd have agreed to all of the terms between them, but the networks have to work their thing out for it to be finalized.
Believe what you want to believe, make 10K stupid threads about the same thing, but it won't change anything.
Re: If you got a 120 + million payday infront of you
Posted: 24 Jan 2015, 07:18
by Chepppaaa
simply not true. the networks settled everything.....the billionere moores wants it to happen as quick as possible. manny said a 1000 time he accepts what floyd wants. everybody but floyd is okay and everybody is waiting on him to sit at the table with manny and finalize business. but takin a jet and flying to the end of the world, this action says a lot but his willingnes to do business. you simply dont fly out of the country when there is a 120+ payday on the table, nobody does it. either your bill gates and have enough cash or you simply dont want the payday and thats what floyd is about.
Re: If you got a 120 + million payday infront of you
Posted: 24 Jan 2015, 11:07
by KBB
Chepppaaa wrote:what would you do?
go at the table and make business with busienss partners or go to vacation and let a strength and conditioning coach speak about your business
floyd is so dumb, if he does not want to fight, than do not say it. dont say you want the fight and in the middle of negociations when the opponent infront of you says "yes i am willing to do what you want me to do," suddenly go to australia and let a third person talk for you about your own business, isnt floyd alwys saying only him is the boss and only he talks?
I thought floyd was his own boss and that only he talks, so why does he not go at the table and discusses the thing with bob and end it. and than all the flomos talking about, where is the signed contract. who cares if he is signed or not, what matters is that manny aggreed and than floyd can read the terms with his advocate and both sign together. like manny would say infront of tv something totaly different from what is on the contract, why would he do so. this makes no sense. manny says every day, he wants the fight and he said yes to whatever floyd wants, that says to me than manny realy wants it and what does floyd do, make vacation. that action of just flying to the end of the world says a lot. also saying no to 120 + just because there is an old man you dont like involved is
so childish.
this reminds me so much of 2008, when floyd also took a 1 year vacation to avoid prime manny, prime cotto, prime margarito.....and now 2015 and back making vacation. dude, if you dont wanna box, okay, but than stay retired.
As childish as you saying stuff like "Flomos" and misspelling the word negotiations!!
You said:
simply not true. the networks settled everything.....
Show us the proof of that!!! We're waiting......................................................
Re: If you got a 120 + million payday infront of you
Posted: 24 Jan 2015, 20:40
by IRLangmaid25
Take the fight get into camp and get working, because it is about legacy as well as the dough.
Re: If you got a 120 + million payday infront of you
Posted: 25 Jan 2015, 07:46
by Chepppaaa
KBB wrote:Chepppaaa wrote:what would you do?
go at the table and make business with busienss partners or go to vacation and let a strength and conditioning coach speak about your business
floyd is so dumb, if he does not want to fight, than do not say it. dont say you want the fight and in the middle of negociations when the opponent infront of you says "yes i am willing to do what you want me to do," suddenly go to australia and let a third person talk for you about your own business, isnt floyd alwys saying only him is the boss and only he talks?
I thought floyd was his own boss and that only he talks, so why does he not go at the table and discusses the thing with bob and end it. and than all the flomos talking about, where is the signed contract. who cares if he is signed or not, what matters is that manny aggreed and than floyd can read the terms with his advocate and both sign together. like manny would say infront of tv something totaly different from what is on the contract, why would he do so. this makes no sense. manny says every day, he wants the fight and he said yes to whatever floyd wants, that says to me than manny realy wants it and what does floyd do, make vacation. that action of just flying to the end of the world says a lot. also saying no to 120 + just because there is an old man you dont like involved is
so childish.
this reminds me so much of 2008, when floyd also took a 1 year vacation to avoid prime manny, prime cotto, prime margarito.....and now 2015 and back making vacation. dude, if you dont wanna box, okay, but than stay retired.
As childish as you saying stuff like "Flomos" and misspelling the word negotiations!!
You said:
simply not true. the networks settled everything.....
Show us the proof of that!!! We're waiting......................................................
i cant bring proof, i does not work high office for neither hbo or shw.
words are enough, why would arum ly for moores and espinoza and what would espinoza, moores and arum not wanna make high amount of cash, that simply does not make no sense, they all rich people in it for business, so it is obvious they want the biggest fights to happen.
Re: If you got a 120 + million payday infront of you
Posted: 25 Jan 2015, 08:17
by Chepppaaa
fergusg wrote:@Chepppaaa - You’re being lazy! Even Bob Arum says that HBO & Showtime haven’t agreed terms yet!
![[icon_neutral.gif] :neutral:](./images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif)
in the intrview video he said they did
Re: If you got a 120 + million payday infront of you
Posted: 25 Jan 2015, 09:32
by Chepppaaa
fergusg wrote:Chepppaaa wrote:fergusg wrote:@Chepppaaa - You’re being lazy! Even Bob Arum says that HBO & Showtime haven’t agreed terms yet!
![[icon_neutral.gif] :neutral:](./images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif)
in the intrview video he said they did
Post the link to the interview, because I suspect that there may be a translation issue here or perhaps you’ve jumped to conclusions based on your incorrect literal interpretation of his spoken words, as English clearly isn’t your first language… and that’s not a criticism.
The last thing that Bob Arum told the media was that Showtime & HBO had overcome some significant obstacles, which of course does not mean that all terms have actually been agreed!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP73mqS1vhg
Re: If you got a 120 + million payday infront of you
Posted: 25 Jan 2015, 12:32
by Chepppaaa
exactly and it is enough.
look, all you floyd fans are telling "show me so contract", "show me this, prove me that"
morons. if you were a business man, what you want your business stuff, your contracts and personal stuff make on facebook or show to anybody, hell no, why, because its your own business and no others. why should that be any different with floyd, top rank, showtime and hbo?
all i need to know is that there are important people, billioneres like moonres, bob, manny make everything they can to make the fight happen, that manny said a 1000 times that he agreed to everything floyd wants and all floyd is doing is flying to another country and let his bitch ariza talk for himself, that action speaks louder than words. nobody, not you, not me, nobody would leave the country or do vacation when there s a 120+ payday around town, say it isnt so.
and all you guys with come up is "show me the contract", as if i was a damn business partner of moonres.
those arab billioneres wante to give floyd 120 and send the contract to him or his lawyer, no answer, okay i can understand it, because he doesnt wanna leave vegas and not fight at abu dabi or dubai, i can get that. but the situation now, that he fights at vegas, at the date he wants, the better % of ppv, the drug testing and he still chickensout, whats wrong with.
Re: If you got a 120 + million payday infront of you
Posted: 25 Jan 2015, 13:03
by Chepppaaa
i 100 % dont believe you.
look at the past. hbo with showtime, without any huge problems they made tyson-lewis, why because both said yes and the fight was a great match up.
why would this be any different now, why would showtime and hbo take so much time and have so many dicculties, if it wasnt for 1 person making problems?
bob and manny said yes.
showtime and hbo are business enterprises, if it makes big dollar, it makes sense, so they and there i am sure have no problems making the fight, they did 1 very big fight before and they want to make it again, so they arent 100 % not blocking the fight.
or who or what is everybody wating for?
you realy wanna tell me floyd doesnt make problems and everybody but him is liying and bob is liying and manny doesnt want the fight and showtimes and hbo are roadblocks, nonsense, dont be stupid. why would they do this, why would 2 big enterprises make problems for a big payday, just does not make no sense.
Re: If you got a 120 + million payday infront of you
Posted: 25 Jan 2015, 13:34
by Chepppaaa
fergusg wrote:@Chepppaaa - If you don't believe me, that's fine by me, but please perform some research and prove me wrong.
I refuse to discuss this matter with you until you've educated yourself on the reality of the situation!
you dont give response to what i am saying. this reminds me of floyd.
manny and bob talking about they agreed to everything and floy dodges this message and simply says "bob arum is the problem", he does not give a response to the message.
same for you.
i talk about logic and ask you a question why big enterprises like hbo or showtime would make difficulties making this super fight and instead of giving a response, you say i have to make more researches and i that i should prove you wrong.
Re: If you got a 120 + million payday infront of you
Posted: 25 Jan 2015, 13:58
by Chepppaaa
fergusg wrote:Chepppaaa wrote:fergusg wrote:@Chepppaaa - If you don't believe me, that's fine by me, but please perform some research and prove me wrong.
I refuse to discuss this matter with you until you've educated yourself on the reality of the situation!
you dont give response to what i am saying. this reminds me of floyd.
manny and bob talking about they agreed to everything and floy dodges this message and simply says "bob arum is the problem", he does not give a response to the message.
same for you.
i talk about logic and ask you a question why big enterprises like hbo or showtime would make difficulties making this super fight and instead of giving a response, you say i have to make more researches and i that i should prove you wrong.
I've already answered your questions... this is not Groundhog Day!
no, you do not.
i ask if your logic tells you that 2 big enterprises would make problems having together a big payday.
you say "HBO & Showtime have not agreed on terms."
and i say that this nonsense, they are just waiting for floyd, otherwise what kind of disagreemant would say have?
tell me, where would there be problems for hbo and showtime, they did business before, so why would they not agree on terms?
unless somebody makes problems.
Re: If you got a 120 + million payday infront of you
Posted: 25 Jan 2015, 16:29
by Chepppaaa
fergusg wrote:@Chepppaaa - Prove your claims that HBO & Showtime have agreed all terms and that the blame for all the delays falls squarely on Floyd's shoulders!
i cant prove anything.
but it looks surely like floyd is making the problems.
what do you think? you think hbo, showtime are making the problems, okay, than why should they do this?
Re: If you got a 120 + million payday infront of you
Posted: 25 Jan 2015, 17:51
by KBB
Chepppaaa wrote:fergusg wrote:@Chepppaaa - Prove your claims that HBO & Showtime have agreed all terms and that the blame for all the delays falls squarely on Floyd's shoulders!
i cant prove anything.
but it looks surely like floyd is making the problems.
what do you think? you think hbo, showtime are making the problems, okay, than why should they do this?
If you can't prove anything then you should just STFU.
Re: If you got a 120 + million payday infront of you
Posted: 26 Jan 2015, 10:33
by Chepppaaa
i never heard espn saying what you are saying....were did u get that info from?
Re: If you got a 120 + million payday infront of you
Posted: 26 Jan 2015, 11:15
by Chepppaaa
fergusg wrote:Chepppaaa wrote:i never heard espn saying what you are saying....were did u get that info from?
Dan Rafael and Showtime's Stephen Espinoza.
okay
so it is not floyds fault....so everyboidy is not waiting for floyd, btu everybody is waiting for show and hbo...aha
Re: If you got a 120 + million payday infront of you
Posted: 26 Jan 2015, 11:46
by Chepppaaa
i understand. but why doesnt than floyd or ariza either say nothing or say, that they does not have received a contract from show/hbo to sign?
why does ariza keep talking about, how bob is the problem, without going into any details, what the exact problem is?
i guess we have to wait and see and until than we agree to disagree hahaha....
Re: If you got a 120 + million payday infront of you
Posted: 26 Jan 2015, 22:07
by Rodian
Floyd is a complete joke and has zero respect from anyone these day :x
Pac is on some world tour right now, promoting his documentary and the superfight and how he has agreed to all the terms.
Meanwhile Floyd is on some ghetto radio station talking about Pac's PPV numbers and blaming Bob Arum. LOL cant make this shit up. Its amazing how people like that still have defenders (mostly on boxrec)
Hey, tribalism is a helluva concept
Re: If you got a 120 + million payday infront of you
Posted: 27 Jan 2015, 08:43
by KBB
Rodian wrote:Floyd is a complete joke and has zero respect from anyone these day :x
Pac is on some world tour right now, promoting his documentary and the superfight and how he has agreed to all the terms.
Meanwhile Floyd is on some ghetto radio station talking about Pac's PPV numbers and blaming Bob Arum. LOL cant make this poo up. Its amazing how people like that still have defenders (mostly on boxrec)
Hey, tribalism is a helluva concept
Ricky aka Rodian aka Stupid, please see my last response to you/your alter-ego in the other thread.
Oh btw, you're dumb and dumber!!
Re: If you got a 120 + million payday infront of you
Posted: 27 Jan 2015, 15:31
by Chepppaaa
Rodian wrote:Floyd is a complete joke and has zero respect from anyone these day :x
Pac is on some world tour right now, promoting his documentary and the superfight and how he has agreed to all the terms.
Meanwhile Floyd is on some ghetto radio station talking about Pac's PPV numbers and blaming Bob Arum. LOL cant make this poo up. Its amazing how people like that still have defenders (mostly on boxrec)
Hey, tribalism is a helluva concept
yeah and his fans are even mroe stupid......(brut:doh: )
Re: If you got a 120 + million payday infront of you
Posted: 27 Jan 2015, 15:46
by tiny_acres