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now thats a real boss

Espinosa hopefully will be fired after Floyd ducks next week. The hammer has to fall and heads have to roll for Floyd's cowardice.

That's a great article and website Rodian, thanks for sharing that.

Man, there are way to many layers to this onion. That article made me feel pretty stupid. The majority of fans think that this fight is just up to Manny & Floyd. The talk about revealing investors was pretty interesting to me. No one has ever referenced that factor as an obstacle as far as i've read but it sure is a big one.

Haymon's now swimming with bigger fishes than he now and I love it. Moonves is shoving his weight around now and I feel more confident than ever that the fight will happen. Good job Les

Assuming this is correct, which is a big assumption, is there any indication Al is looking for Showtime dates? Does this include guys getting put on non-televised bouts (its underreported most of Al's 160ish man roster are non-feature guys who probably wouldn't deserve to be on Showtime right now anyway)? To me it kinda sounded like Al honeydicked Stephan in the "oh yea sure we'll bring guys back to Showtime" remark that was made a couple weeks back without really planning to do that. So this sounds like it could be a dog without teeth, again assuming its even correct.

Rodian wrote:Espinosa hopefully will be fired

LOL Stephan is definitely behind the 8 ball. He's had a great deal with Golden Boy (his former employer) til Oscar got nearly taken over by Al & Richard. Then he lost Saul, the future PPV king of boxing, to HBO. And now he's got all this drama with Floyd/Manny/HBO/and apparently Les Moonves lol. Stephan is extremely unlikely to keep his gig past the end of the Floyd deal imho. I'd guess he gets fired within 6 months, maybe a year if they are feeling kind or have trouble finding someone post Floyd's 49th fight.

Rodian wrote:Arum hopefully will be banned after Manny ducks next week. The hammer has to fall and heads have to roll for Pacquiao's cowardice.

Fixed!

i just saw the garcia-pederson fight is non-title.
garcia will at that point have gone 13 months since his last defense with two
non-title fights, meaning it would be at least another few months before he
would get around to a defense. 16-18 months between defending titles while
engaging in non-title fights? this seems silly to me. then again, the belts often
have no rhyme or reason. who is the official promoter of these haymon cards?
is he using mayweather's license and then what is mayweather getting out of it?
the tv networks sometimes have licenses but if haymon is buying the airtime and
collecting all the revenues then it doesn't seem like they can legally be the official
promoters.

KBB wrote:

Rodian wrote:Arum hopefully will be banned after Manny ducks next week. The hammer has to fall and heads have to roll for Pacquiao's cowardice.

Fixed!

As many expected, Brut is probably around 10 years old.

I believe, not too long ago, a poster got another poster, or a couple other posters banned for fiddling and altering with their original posts in quotes, as Brut seems to be doing over and over again with posters he disagrees with.

As many expect Ikey is not intelligent in the least.

ReggieDiggs wrote:Assuming this is correct, which is a big assumption, is there any indication Al is looking for Showtime dates? Does this include guys getting put on non-televised bouts (its underreported most of Al's 160ish man roster are non-feature guys who probably wouldn't deserve to be on Showtime right now anyway)? To me it kinda sounded like Al honeydicked Stephan in the "oh yea sure we'll bring guys back to Showtime" remark that was made a couple weeks back without really planning to do that. So this sounds like it could be a dog without teeth, again assuming its even correct.

I think he would like to bring fighters on Showtime for big events and PPV, so that he gets Showtime money. On the other hand would Showtime like Haymon buying NBC time with their money while taking away most fighters, dates and essentially screwing them over.

The article does not state facts, only reports and opinions. Let's keep that in mind. I wish it would have said Showtime and HBO had ironed out their disagreements, but it doesn't.

You can assume Floyd, Arum, Pac, Haymon want the fight, or you can assume they don't want the fight. The only fact is, that we don't know what the facts really are.

Badhusker wrote:The article does not state facts, only reports and opinions. Let's keep that in mind. I wish it would have said Showtime and HBO had ironed out their disagreements, but it doesn't.

You can assume Floyd, Arum, Pac, Haymon want the fight, or you can assume they don't want the fight. The only fact is, that we don't know what the facts really are.

The voice of reason.All we know at this point is well not too dadgum much.