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Seems standard in this situation. See if dude is crazy or nah.

Anyone know if hes still with his WNBA (or ex-WNBA) wife?

Nm. Looks like he is with his wife still. She released a kids book last summer.

Some people show the effects of brain damage sooner than others. When the effects start when you are still young, it can be pretty bad like this. Taylor's suddenly aggressive behavior/shift in attitude sound like the things former NFL player describe. Taylor seemed to increase his bad decision output after his first retirement when it was known that he had suffered some serious brian damage.

We really need to take another look at the violent crimes fighters commit outside the ring. Yes, they are from the hood and probably have a criminal past, but their brains are not working properly. So instead of being able to ignore certain things like they naturally would, they go down the first path their brain locks into.

However, as people who cheered while this damage was being inflicted, we tend to act like they are in full control and just made bad decisions.
It's easier to blame other than blame yourself

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Some people show the effects of brain damage sooner than others. When the effects start when you are still young, it can be pretty bad like this. Taylor's suddenly aggressive behavior/shift in attitude sound like the things former NFL player describe. Taylor seemed to increase his bad decision output after his first retirement when it was known that he had suffered some serious brian damage.

We really need to take another look at the violent crimes fighters commit outside the ring. Yes, they are from the hood and probably have a criminal past, but their brains are not working properly. So instead of being able to ignore certain things like they naturally would, they go down the first path their brain locks into.

However, as people who cheered while this damage was being inflicted, we tend to act like they are in full control and just made bad decisions.
It's easier to blame other than blame yourself

good post.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Some people show the effects of brain damage sooner than others. When the effects start when you are still young, it can be pretty bad like this. Taylor's suddenly aggressive behavior/shift in attitude sound like the things former NFL player describe. Taylor seemed to increase his bad decision output after his first retirement when it was known that he had suffered some serious brian damage.

We really need to take another look at the violent crimes fighters commit outside the ring. Yes, they are from the hood and probably have a criminal past, but their brains are not working properly. So instead of being able to ignore certain things like they naturally would, they go down the first path their brain locks into.

However, as people who cheered while this damage was being inflicted, we tend to act like they are in full control and just made bad decisions.
It's easier to blame other than blame yourself

Agreed. Taylor should be in a mental facility, not spending time with hard time guys in a regular jail. Although due to budget cuts (mental health/assistance for the disabled is often first on the chopping block, particularly in conservative states), most state mental facilities are in absolute s^&* shape.

Im pretty sure if they give Taylor a MRI or CT scan it will reveal that he has some beginning stages of CTE(Chronic traumatic encephalopathy). He should have not been given a license to box after the Abraham fight.

If all boxers were given an MRI or CT I'm pretty sure there would be quite a few with beginning stages of CTE.
These people take punches to the head for a living.
Boxing is NOT a game it's a brutal sport that quite often has negative long-term effects on both mental and physical health.

That being said injuries suffered in the ring are not a license for anyone to commit crimes without being held responsible for their actions.
Despite the likely presence of brain injuries Jermain can get in the ring and follow the rules there.
He also surrendered to the police after his latest issues..................that is the act of a reasonable man who is capable of making sound decisions.
It is proven beyond any reasonable doubt that Jermain Taylor can make good decisions and follow rules when he chooses to do so. He can be held responsible for his actions when makes bad choices too.

I wonder how all these bleeding hearts would feel if Jermain shot your child or waved a gun in his face.
It's easy to make excuses for criminals when they're a safe distance from your life and people you care about.

Perseus wrote:If all boxers were given an MRI or CT I'm pretty sure there would be quite a few with beginning stages of CTE.
These people take punches to the head for a living.
Boxing is NOT a game it's a brutal sport that quite often has negative long-term effects on both mental and physical health.

That being said injuries suffered in the ring are not a license for anyone to commit crimes without being held responsible for their actions.
Despite the likely presence of brain injuries Jermain can get in the ring and follow the rules there.
He also surrendered to the police after his latest issues..................that is the act of a reasonable man who is capable of making sound decisions.
It is proven beyond any reasonable doubt that Jermain Taylor can make good decisions and follow rules when he chooses to do so. He can be held responsible for his actions when makes bad choices too.

I wonder how all these bleeding hearts would feel if Jermain shot your child or waved a gun in his face.
It's easy to make excuses for criminals when they're a safe distance from your life and people you care about.

Who's saying it's a license to commit crime? I'm just saying I think a mental facility at this point is a preferable alternative to jail . .those with neurological injuries and conditions shouldn't be in a regular jail; that's just asking for abuse. I definitely don't think he should just be a free man.

dempseyfire wrote:

Perseus wrote:If all boxers were given an MRI or CT I'm pretty sure there would be quite a few with beginning stages of CTE.
These people take punches to the head for a living.
Boxing is NOT a game it's a brutal sport that quite often has negative long-term effects on both mental and physical health.

That being said injuries suffered in the ring are not a license for anyone to commit crimes without being held responsible for their actions.
Despite the likely presence of brain injuries Jermain can get in the ring and follow the rules there.
He also surrendered to the police after his latest issues..................that is the act of a reasonable man who is capable of making sound decisions.
It is proven beyond any reasonable doubt that Jermain Taylor can make good decisions and follow rules when he chooses to do so. He can be held responsible for his actions when makes bad choices too.

I wonder how all these bleeding hearts would feel if Jermain shot your child or waved a gun in his face.
It's easy to make excuses for criminals when they're a safe distance from your life and people you care about.

Who's saying it's a license to commit crime? I'm just saying I think a mental facility at this point is a preferable alternative to jail . .those with neurological injuries and conditions shouldn't be in a regular jail; that's just asking for abuse. I definitely don't think he should just be a free man.

Jail isn't supposed to be a nice place.
As long as he is capable of making good choices but decides not to do so then jail should be where he goes IF convicted.

The problem with this country is that we give criminals too much benefit of the doubt. Bottom line is Taylor has committed several violent acts that have endangered the lives of several people. He belongs in a correctional facility, period. There's a risk/reward factor in choosing boxing as a career and using brain damage as a cop out to committing crimes is bullshit. Using that logic, Ike Ibeabuchi, Tony Ayala, Cliff Etienne, Harry Simon, and many others should've been spared as well.

matador wrote:The problem with this country is that we give criminals too much benefit of the doubt. Bottom line is Taylor has committed several violent acts that have endangered the lives of several people. He belongs in a correctional facility, period. There's a risk/reward factor in choosing boxing as a career and using brain damage as a cop out to committing crimes is bullshit. Using that logic, Ike Ibeabuchi, Tony Ayala, Cliff Etienne, Harry Simon, and many others should've been spared as well.

matador = George Zimmerman?

JT is a loonnnggggg way from being same criminal that Ike or Etienne were. They kidnapped women more or less.Jt shot his cousin during argument. Yes I like JT. he's not same type as other guys

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:

matador wrote:The problem with this country is that we give criminals too much benefit of the doubt. Bottom line is Taylor has committed several violent acts that have endangered the lives of several people. He belongs in a correctional facility, period. There's a risk/reward factor in choosing boxing as a career and using brain damage as a cop out to committing crimes is bullshit. Using that logic, Ike Ibeabuchi, Tony Ayala, Cliff Etienne, Harry Simon, and many others should've been spared as well.

matador = George Zimmerman?

Unless I missed the sarcasm, this is one of the dumbest responses to a post I've seen in a long time. Then again, from your screen name it's obvious you're a blindly biased Taylor apologist. It's ironic that you compared me to Zimmerman; another criminal who escaped jail time because he was given the benefit of the doubt in a case where he was clearly guilty.

I firmly believe that Jermain Taylor is a loose canon who could potentially end up seriously hurting or killing another human being. I, and many others, gave him the benefit of the doubt when rumors spread that he allegedly attacked his mother, shot his cousin, and threw a brick at a woman. The incidents that happened at the MLK parade are very disconcerting and you would have to be naive to ignore them. I feel the man belongs in a correctional facility, plain and simple. How the fvck is that comparable to a racist lunatic who stereotyped and attacked a random kid and ended up killing him?

birdman77 wrote:JT is a loonnnggggg way from being same criminal that Ike or Etienne were. They kidnapped women more or less.Jt shot his cousin during argument. Yes I like JT. he's not same type as other guys

I agree, and I don't think he deserves the same prison sentences as Ike or Etienne either. My argument is that it's wrong to simply give Taylor a free pass and blaming the sport of boxing for his behavior.

birdman77 wrote:JT is a loonnnggggg way from being same criminal that Ike or Etienne were.

I would say Ike is long way from being the same as Etienne. What Etienne did was armed robbery, kidnapping and attempted murder.

On the other hand, Ike had documented history of "mental incidents" long before the final arrest... and while it is obvious he should be taken care of (and isolated until the issue is solved), I doubt if ~20 years sentence was the best solution.

That's really sad to read. Boxing has taken his soul.

matador wrote:

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:

matador wrote:The problem with this country is that we give criminals too much benefit of the doubt. Bottom line is Taylor has committed several violent acts that have endangered the lives of several people. He belongs in a correctional facility, period. There's a risk/reward factor in choosing boxing as a career and using brain damage as a cop out to committing crimes is bullshit. Using that logic, Ike Ibeabuchi, Tony Ayala, Cliff Etienne, Harry Simon, and many others should've been spared as well.

matador = George Zimmerman?

Unless I missed the sarcasm, this is one of the dumbest responses to a post I've seen in a long time. Then again, from your screen name it's obvious you're a blindly biased Taylor apologist. It's ironic that you compared me to Zimmerman; another criminal who escaped jail time because he was given the benefit of the doubt in a case where he was clearly guilty.

I firmly believe that Jermain Taylor is a loose canon who could potentially end up seriously hurting or killing another human being. I, and many others, gave him the benefit of the doubt when rumors spread that he allegedly attacked his mother, shot his cousin, and threw a brick at a woman. The incidents that happened at the MLK parade are very disconcerting and you would have to be naive to ignore them. I feel the man belongs in a correctional facility, plain and simple. How the fvck is that comparable to a racist lunatic who stereotyped and attacked a random kid and ended up killing him?

Because both of you come from a place that lacks understanding and compassion. Your view of crime and brain damage is very primitive. You are going to respond like "how is killing someone and me thinking criminals belong in jail the same thing?" Sadly, you can't see the connection. Just know that your mentality is fundamental belief of people like Zimmerman. Hopefully, you have the slightly better judgment that stops you from becoming one of them.

Once again, it's easier to heap the blame on the individual.

Zimmerman was guilty? He was viciously attacked by a street thug in a gated community without provocation.

He feared for his life, he shot his attacker. In the USA he is not guilty and acted within the law against a violent criminal.

reggaereggae wrote:Zimmerman was guilty? He was viciously attacked by a street thug in a gated community without provocation.

Could you share that film footage with us? You are privy to information that the rest of us don't have.

Both guys were/are punks, but I think the racial angle in this case was overhyped to sell advertising space.

Tony1244 wrote: You are privy to information that the rest of us don't have.

do you live in a cave?

he went from meeting Bill Clinton to..... a mental hospital

he's down for the count

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Some people show the effects of brain damage sooner than others. When the effects start when you are still young, it can be pretty bad like this. Taylor's suddenly aggressive behavior/shift in attitude sound like the things former NFL player describe. Taylor seemed to increase his bad decision output after his first retirement when it was known that he had suffered some serious brian damage.

We really need to take another look at the violent crimes fighters commit outside the ring. Yes, they are from the hood and probably have a criminal past, but their brains are not working properly. So instead of being able to ignore certain things like they naturally would, they go down the first path their brain locks into.

However, as people who cheered while this damage was being inflicted, we tend to act like they are in full control and just made bad decisions.
It's easier to blame other than blame yourself

If we're going to start to look at biological reasons for violent behaviour and look toward treatment rather than punishment should it be kept only for ex boxers and ex football players or should it be done across the spectrum?

JT definitely doesn't deserve to fight under all these circumstances. Its sad to see the picture of his beautiful family and know he threw a big part of that away. We can blame brain injuries and its pretty legit though it doesn't change facts.

Lets not get embroiled in Zimmerman case. He's a wimp that couldn't defend himself without a gun. Unfortunately Trayvon was a punk kid himself that probably had committed crimes sometime. ..or was well on his way towards doing so. I don't believe thats going out on a limb

Rodian wrote:he went from meeting Bill Clinton to..... a mental hospital

he's down for the count

Spending any time with Bill Clinton would send plenty people to the booby hatch.