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Respect to all but have to love Wilder's short term memory. He is quoted as saying he will blow out Tyson Fury because Tyson got knocked down by Steve Cunningham. Deontay musta forgot the uppercut by 17-20 "little" Harold Sconiers that put him down hard and almost out. Please Cunningham is a solid world class too fighter. Sconiers a club fighter. Wilder has been guided very softly to a belt. I would keep developing him and wait awhile for big fights. I see Fury outboxing him.

They had a lil back n forth on twitter yesterday. Or the people that run their twitter accounts did anyway. This will be a fun fight & a fun af presser cuz both of these cats got mic skills. Tyson by KO in the presser, Tyson by decision in the fight, but I'd love to see this one whatever happens.

ReggieDiggs wrote:They had a lil back n forth on twitter yesterday. Or the people that run their twitter accounts did anyway. This will be a fun fight & a fun af presser cuz both of these cats got mic skills. Tyson by KO in the presser, Tyson by decision in the fight, but I'd love to see this one whatever happens.

Spot on.

Dancin' Dan wrote:Respect to all but have to love Wilder's short term memory. He is quoted as saying he will blow out Tyson Fury because Tyson got knocked down by Steve Cunningham. Deontay musta forgot the uppercut by 17-20 "little" Harold Sconiers that put him down hard and almost out. Please Cunningham is a solid world class too fighter. Sconiers a club fighter. Wilder has been guided very softly to a belt. I would keep developing him and wait awhile for big fights. I see Fury outboxing him.

I think its called trash talk and nothing more.......but if ur gonna go thru each dude career and see who got dropped by who why don't u look at the 10 guys that have dropped Fury as a "Pro".

This will be a good scrap if they fight, Fury has balls and a big ass mouth. If Fury can impose his size on Wilder he may have probs.

ReggieDiggs wrote:They had a lil back n forth on twitter yesterday. Or the people that run their twitter accounts did anyway. This will be a fun fight & a fun af presser cuz both of these cats got mic skills. Tyson by KO in the presser, Tyson by decision in the fight, but I'd love to see this one whatever happens.

I'd imagine a presser between them would be quite jovial, there does seem to be a genuine respect and both talk a good game without being nasty,Fury plays close to the edge but despite the put downs he dishes out he still seems to be tongue in cheek,almost Ali-esque

I do find Tyson Fury hilarious

hurricanemitch14 wrote:

Dancin' Dan wrote:Respect to all but have to love Wilder's short term memory. He is quoted as saying he will blow out Tyson Fury because Tyson got knocked down by Steve Cunningham. Deontay musta forgot the uppercut by 17-20 "little" Harold Sconiers that put him down hard and almost out. Please Cunningham is a solid world class too fighter. Sconiers a club fighter. Wilder has been guided very softly to a belt. I would keep developing him and wait awhile for big fights. I see Fury outboxing him.

I think its called trash talk and nothing more.......but if ur gonna go thru each dude career and see who got dropped by who why don't u look at the 10 guys that have dropped Fury as a "Pro".

This will be a good scrap if they fight, Fury has balls and a big ass mouth. If Fury can impose his size on Wilder he may have probs.

10 guys that dropped Fury as a pro????
Who the hell were they? Cunningham and Pajkik are the only 2 I remember.

Zero chance Haymon risks Wilder vs. Fury in his first defense.

Zero chance.

Sure would love to see it though. Fill up Wembley or O2.

Wilder would knock Fury's clumsy ass out.

montrealsuper wrote:Zero chance Haymon risks Wilder vs. Fury in his first defense.

Zero chance.

Sure would love to see it though. Fill up Wembley or O2.

I don't think that fight will happen next, but it isn't because haymon is worried about risking wilder against fury. There is no risk there. Wilder will kill him.

I just don't think the money will be right in the us, and although he says he would, i dont think wilder will go overseas.

ReggieDiggs wrote:They had a lil back n forth on twitter yesterday. Or the people that run their twitter accounts did anyway. This will be a fun fight & a fun af presser cuz both of these cats got mic skills. Tyson by KO in the presser, Tyson by decision in the fight, but I'd love to see this one whatever happens.

Don't know about Wilder but Tyson mostly runs his himself, sometimes it's one of his brothers or cousins using it, at least that's what he says when he crosses the line on there.

Fury's a colorful character and I actually enjoy watching him (a rarity for me when it comes to Euro heavies) but he's a lumbering lug comparable to another Brit, the smaller Jack Bodell.
Fury's mouth belongs in the same ring with Wilder but that's the only part of his anatomy that measures up.
The Bronze Bomber would put an end to the Fury myth and his undefeated record in short order.

montrealsuper wrote:Zero chance Haymon risks Wilder vs. Fury in his first defense.

Zero chance.

Sure would love to see it though. Fill up Wembley or O2.

No, they're saving their "bronze bomber" hype job to cash out in a big money fight with Wladimir. If he did fight Fury I believe that Fury would beat him easily. Fury looked very impressive and vastly improved in his last fight with Chisora - and Chisora himself had fought far better opponents than has Wilder and Stiverne combined.

Dancin' Dan wrote:Respect to all but have to love Wilder's short term memory. He is quoted as saying he will blow out Tyson Fury because Tyson got knocked down by Steve Cunningham. Deontay musta forgot the uppercut by 17-20 "little" Harold Sconiers that put him down hard and almost out. Please Cunningham is a solid world class too fighter. Sconiers a club fighter. Wilder has been guided very softly to a belt. I would keep developing him and wait awhile for big fights. I see Fury outboxing him.

Yeah, compare Sconiers to Cunningham and that's a laugh. Do you know they have done their best to scour the photo of Wilder on his ass in that Sconiers fight off the internet? The only one I could find when I looked for it a couple of months ago had some sort of copywrite protection on it and I couldn't re-post it, or even link to it. Gotta protect their investment.

I see Fury outboxing him.

That won't happen. Seriously?

Have some of actually seen Wilder and Fury fight? Wilder would in no manner outbox Fury. Especially in his lefty stance Tyson would out point him. People forget Stiverne only beat one half way decent fighter in Arreola who was beating pretty bad the second fight. Short fighter versus short fighter. Sconiers had Wilder completely out of it for most of a round. Granted he is one of my favorites but I think USS Cunningham would out point Wilder too. His shot is to land a haymaker versus Fury or Cunningham. Poventkin probably knocks out Wilder most any night. I would bring Wilder along carefully for a few more years.

Dancin' Dan wrote:Have some of actually seen Wilder and Fury fight? Wilder would in no manner outbox Fury. Especially in his lefty stance Tyson would out point him. People forget Stiverne only beat one half way decent fighter in Arreola who was beating pretty bad the second fight. Short fighter versus short fighter. Sconiers had Wilder completely out of it for most of a round. Granted he is one of my favorites but I think USS Cunningham would out point Wilder too. His shot is to land a haymaker versus Fury or Cunningham. Poventkin probably knocks out Wilder most any night. I would bring Wilder along carefully for a few more years.

Good point.

Stiverne looked poor against the tall Ray Austin and because he was being clearly outboxed from range he was losing that fight into the 10th, with two judges giving him only three rounds against someone Wlad quickly destroyed. Despite that, some people have taken Wilder's victory over Stiverne as a strong sign that he's the future of the division and handily beats everyone but Wlad, as if they haven't considered that a bout with a much shorter opponent who previously struggled significantly with a height disadvantage would probably unfold much differently than a bout with someone even taller than him; for example, it's quite unlikely that leaning back with his hands low to avoid punches, which composed the bulk of Wilder's reactive defense against Stiverne, would be nearly effective against someone like Fury.

tiny_acres wrote:

hurricanemitch14 wrote:

Dancin' Dan wrote:Respect to all but have to love Wilder's short term memory. He is quoted as saying he will blow out Tyson Fury because Tyson got knocked down by Steve Cunningham. Deontay musta forgot the uppercut by 17-20 "little" Harold Sconiers that put him down hard and almost out. Please Cunningham is a solid world class too fighter. Sconiers a club fighter. Wilder has been guided very softly to a belt. I would keep developing him and wait awhile for big fights. I see Fury outboxing him.

I think its called trash talk and nothing more.......but if ur gonna go thru each dude career and see who got dropped by who why don't u look at the 10 guys that have dropped Fury as a "Pro".

This will be a good scrap if they fight, Fury has balls and a big ass mouth. If Fury can impose his size on Wilder he may have probs.

10 guys that dropped Fury as a pro????
Who the hell were they? Cunningham and Pajkik are the only 2 I remember.

I maybe wrong but I thought he was dropped in his fights against Firtha and Nascimento. I know he got hurt in the firtha fight.

Only down against Pajkic and Cunningham.

hurricanemitch14 wrote:

tiny_acres wrote:

hurricanemitch14 wrote:

I think its called trash talk and nothing more.......but if ur gonna go thru each dude career and see who got dropped by who why don't u look at the 10 guys that have dropped Fury as a "Pro".

This will be a good scrap if they fight, Fury has balls and a big ass mouth. If Fury can impose his size on Wilder he may have probs.

10 guys that dropped Fury as a pro????
Who the hell were they? Cunningham and Pajkik are the only 2 I remember.

I maybe wrong but I thought he was dropped in his fights against Firtha and Nascimento. I know he got hurt in the firtha fight.

Firtha wobbled him with a straight right, Pajkic and Cunningham dropped him with overhand rights, he came forward with his hands down, squared up and walked onto them, never really looked hurt though. The fourth round against Firtha's the only time I've seen him really wobbled by a punch.

Dancin' Dan wrote:Respect to all but have to love Wilder's short term memory. He is quoted as saying he will blow out Tyson Fury because Tyson got knocked down by Steve Cunningham. Deontay musta forgot the uppercut by 17-20 "little" Harold Sconiers that put him down hard and almost out. Please Cunningham is a solid world class too fighter. Sconiers a club fighter. Wilder has been guided very softly to a belt. I would keep developing him and wait awhile for big fights. I see Fury outboxing him.

at the latest when you have one of the four belts,
easy time is over. that is my take on it. you are
introduced as "heavy weight champion of the world"
and that means training and build up is over. you
want the money and prestige of being up there,
then live up to facing the best man who they can
put in front of you. if you do not like that or do not
feel ready, do not expect anyone to soften the burden
for you.

i for one believe fury would make a formidable opponent,
but i expect him to lose. wilder in my book has not taken
out stiverne cause he held back in order not to risk the
win of the title. i find that smart. once he feels comfortable
at top level he might start again taking people out.

SenorPipino wrote:Fury's mouth belongs in the same ring with Wilder but that's the only part of his anatomy that measures up.

well phrased indeed.

Cunningham is a solid world class fighter? He lost 3 out of his last 4 when he fought Fury, and 2 or 3 of those were at cruiser weight. Fury used his size as the key advantage, especially at the end when he had Cunningham on the ropes, and used his forearm across his face/eyes to set up the KO punch which although was not all that hard, Cunningham couldn't see it coming. Cunningham is not only much smaller, but much older.

I love the Fury vs Wilder match-up. I think it would sell bigger than any heavy fight out there, at least for now. Pre-fight smack talk will be funny, and it will be a fun fight to watch.

I think both have good chins, as pretty much any heavy has enough power to KO the other - and even the poor guys are dangerous because that is all they got and they swing for the fence.

Wilder by mid-late KO. If Fury can withstand what Stiverne did, I will be impressed. Stiverne vs Fury would be a much closer fight.

Dancin' Dan wrote:Respect to all but have to love Wilder's short term memory. He is quoted as saying he will blow out Tyson Fury because Tyson got knocked down by Steve Cunningham. Deontay musta forgot the uppercut by 17-20 "little" Harold Sconiers that put him down hard and almost out. Please Cunningham is a solid world class too fighter. Sconiers a club fighter. Wilder has been guided very softly to a belt. I would keep developing him and wait awhile for big fights. I see Fury outboxing him.

Chisora mocked Tyson for getting put down by a cruiserweight aswell, obviously forgetting that he himself got KO'd by a cruiserweight.

Fury has boxed really well recently. The Fury that outboxed Chisora would beat Wilder I believe.

Anyway "MAKE THE DAMN FIGHT!"

reggaereggae wrote:Fury has boxed really well recently. The Fury that outboxed Chisora would beat Wilder I believe.

Anyway "MAKE THE DAMN FIGHT!"

Yea I thought Tyson showed some skills in that Chisora rematch that he hasn't shown in awhile or at all.

This is a close fight as far as who'd be favored imho. Pick em or either having a slight edge.

Even though Deontay has the best, highest caliber W in my book (Bermane) I think he's the far more unproven guy as Tyson has had more fights with "living, breathing" opponents on the other side of the ring. I was impressed with Deontay's whiskers/ability to not get hit vs Bermane although I think its arguable that could have been attributable to Deontay's athleticism & Bermane's "eh" boxing IQ/adaptability. You can list many strikes against either guy tbqh & thats probably a large part why it'd be interesting to see.