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We may see great fights:

http://www.vitalboxing.com/article.asp?a=3111

“In a perfect world, knock on wood, that everything goes the right way on April the 25th, then we would love to do the fight against (Tyson) Fury, and then a fight against (Deontay) Wilder. It could also be the other way around, but what we heard from Al Haymon (the manager of Wilder) is that they are looking into that fight for Wilder, by the end of this year or maybe next year against Wladimir.”

fergusg wrote: The thing is… an awful lot can happen over the course of the next twelve months, which probably means that these plans may not even come to fruition.

Like Wilder losing to somebody like Povetkin or Perez or getting stripped because Haymon disallowed him to fight a mandatory?

ikorolev wrote:

fergusg wrote: The thing is… an awful lot can happen over the course of the next twelve months, which probably means that these plans may not even come to fruition.

Like Wilder losing to somebody like Povetkin or Perez or getting stripped because Haymon disallowed him to fight a mandatory?

Or Wlad losing to Fury... which WILL happen!

ikorolev wrote:

fergusg wrote: The thing is… an awful lot can happen over the course of the next twelve months, which probably means that these plans may not even come to fruition.

Like Wilder losing to somebody like Povetkin or Perez or getting stripped because Haymon disallowed him to fight a mandatory?

Imagine boxing's newest superstar-in-waiting, Wilder, actually losing to a ham n' egger like Perez. A totally ordinary heavy.
It would be like Foreman losing to Joe "King" Roman. Not a chance in the world of it happening.
Just because Perez can vanquish the dreaded Ding-a-Ling Man, doesn't mean he belongs in the same zip code with Wilder.
Can you get any funnier?

Deontay Wilder probably more likely fight people like Chris Arreola, Tony Thompson (should he get past Odlandier Solis), or perhaps even (shudder) Shannon Briggs. As I am sure the Americans now have a portion of the Heavyweight title will look to keep it for a while before potentially being sacrified against Wladimir Klitschko.

SenorPipino wrote:

ikorolev wrote: Like Wilder losing to somebody like Povetkin or Perez or getting stripped because Haymon disallowed him to fight a mandatory?

Imagine boxing's newest superstar-in-waiting, Wilder, actually losing to a ham n' egger like Perez. A totally ordinary heavy.
It would be like Foreman losing to Joe "King" Roman. Not a chance in the world of it happening.
Just because Perez can vanquish the dreaded Ding-a-Ling Man, doesn't mean he belongs in the same zip code with Wilder.
Can you get any funnier?

In order to fight Wilder, Perez would need to defeat Povetkin in Moscow. If that happens, then your ranking of Perez is totally wrong. Besides, Wilder's chin is still a suspect, so there is always a puncher's chance.

SenorPipino wrote:

ikorolev wrote:

fergusg wrote: The thing is… an awful lot can happen over the course of the next twelve months, which probably means that these plans may not even come to fruition.

Like Wilder losing to somebody like Povetkin or Perez or getting stripped because Haymon disallowed him to fight a mandatory?

Imagine boxing's newest superstar-in-waiting, Wilder, actually losing to a ham n' egger like Perez. A totally ordinary heavy.
It would be like Foreman losing to Joe "King" Roman. Not a chance in the world of it happening.
Just because Perez can vanquish the dreaded Ding-a-Ling Man, doesn't mean he belongs in the same zip code with Wilder.
Can you get any funnier?

Perez has a decent shot vs wilder...
Oh yeah, you're the guy who thinks fighters should be judged according to what country they're from. Carry on...

So we have at least two great fight lined up. And although I dont think Jenning has lot of chances I think Fury challenge is very real. And for a desert then better and improved Wilder. Exciting times!

SenorPipino wrote:

ikorolev wrote:

fergusg wrote: The thing is… an awful lot can happen over the course of the next twelve months, which probably means that these plans may not even come to fruition.

Like Wilder losing to somebody like Povetkin or Perez or getting stripped because Haymon disallowed him to fight a mandatory?

Imagine boxing's newest superstar-in-waiting, Wilder, actually losing to a ham n' egger like Perez. A totally ordinary heavy.
It would be like Foreman losing to Joe "King" Roman. Not a chance in the world of it happening.
Just because Perez can vanquish the dreaded Ding-a-Ling Man, doesn't mean he belongs in the same zip code with Wilder.
Can you get any funnier?

The only thing funnier in this thread is you even mentioning Wilder in the same paragraph as Foreman and talking him up as if he's head and shoulders above the entire heavyweight scene
Until he won his last fight, wilder did not have 1 name on his resume as impressive as Mike Perez.

Mike Perez would most likely lose to Wilder and I don't think he is top of my list of names for a world title shot.
But to claim that overnight, wilder has gone from never having fought an opponent on a par with perez, to suddenly existing in another "zip code" to him, simply because he beat a relatively weak world champion, is preposterous

the above is nothing as povetkin will beat perez

then wilder has 3 options

1. door 1 - mr. povetkin
2. door 2 - dr. steelhammer
3. door 3. drop belt (some excuse) and run like a biznitch

cold187 wrote:the above is nothing as povetkin will beat perez

then wilder has 3 options

1. door 1 - mr. povetkin
2. door 2 - dr. steelhammer
3. door 3. drop belt (some excuse) and run like a biznitch

Deontay doesn't have a mandatory from my understanding. Bryant would've been the mandatory if he'd have not taken the fight with Wladimir. And Mike & Alexander aren't fighting til late May it sounds like & that isn't even final yet. So Door 1 ain't happening til probably late Aug. at the earliest & Deontay could have two fights scheduled between now & then if he wanted to thus I think we got 3 real options right now.

Option 1: Wlad (too early for that imo, gotta built that up more)
Option 2: Tyson (might even be too early for this from a promoters pov cuz they always wanna make fights as big as possible)
Option 3: Random ABC ranked guy (this is for sure the most likely option imho), probably Lucas Browne or Artur Szpilka who are both ranked under Deontay's abc belt & with Al Haymon

There is no option to drop the belt lol.

IRLangmaid25 wrote:Deontay Wilder probably more likely fight people like Chris Arreola, Tony Thompson (should he get past Odlandier Solis), or perhaps even (shudder) Shannon Briggs. As I am sure the Americans now have a portion of the Heavyweight title will look to keep it for a while before potentially being sacrified against Wladimir Klitschko.

I could be wrong but I really don't think Haymon or Wilder care if the title is held by another American. I think they just care about how much money they can make. Thompson would be ok, but Briggs and Arreola need to beat somebody first IMO.

I do not think Wlad Fury will happen this year.I think he is moving his goal to Wilder first.
I expect Jennings then Briggs.I hope I am wrong.

Wilder fight order: Tarver, Szpilka, Fres Oquendo, Adamek, Dawejko. Seth Mitchell...

montrealsuper wrote:Wilder fight order: Tarver, Szpilka, Fres Oquendo, Adamek, Dawejko. Seth Mitchell...

Probably about right.
And he'll mention Wlads name after bowls over each and every one of them

well good news is adamek and seth retired, and daweko faces mansour in may

as mentioned wilder will have nowhere to hide in 6 months

tiny_acres wrote:I do not think Wlad Fury will happen this year.I think he is moving his goal to Wilder first.
I expect Jennings then Briggs.I hope I am wrong.

seriously man people need to stop this birggs nonsense
fight is not happening just listen to tom loeflerrs interviews
the guys 42 looks about 52,

Wlad WILL face FURY next

ReggieDiggs wrote:

cold187 wrote:the above is nothing as povetkin will beat perez

then wilder has 3 options

1. door 1 - mr. povetkin
2. door 2 - dr. steelhammer
3. door 3. drop belt (some excuse) and run like a biznitch

Deontay doesn't have a mandatory from my understanding. Bryant would've been the mandatory if he'd have not taken the fight with Wladimir. And Mike & Alexander aren't fighting til late May it sounds like & that isn't even final yet. So Door 1 ain't happening til probably late Aug. at the earliest & Deontay could have two fights scheduled between now & then if he wanted to thus I think we got 3 real options right now.

Option 1: Wlad (too early for that imo, gotta built that up more)
Option 2: Tyson (might even be too early for this from a promoters pov cuz they always wanna make fights as big as possible)
Option 3: Random ABC ranked guy (this is for sure the most likely option imho), probably Lucas Browne or Artur Szpilka who are both ranked under Deontay's abc belt & with Al Haymon

There is no option to drop the belt lol.

Wilders not fighting again until JUNE and this will be a voluntary

povetkin and perez will be done by then (may 22nd)

so wilder will have no choice to face povetkin as mandatory as he would have had his voluntary

Nobody has been pushing Garcia for the mandatory and enough money to influence WBC
K2 promotions have plenty of money and power to force them into a corner as does povetkins manager

money talks, especially for Sanctioning bodies.

i do agree the garcia position is a disgrace, if they were other people both lamont and garcia would be stripped

cold187 wrote: Wilders not fighting again until JUNE and this will be a voluntary

povetkin and perez will be done by then (may 22nd)

so wilder will have no choice to face povetkin as mandatory as he would have had his voluntary

Well.....we are talking about abc orgs here. I'd never say a guy will "HAVE NO CHOICE" when a abc org is in play. You'd have been proven wrong far too many times to keep that sorta opinion.

But I was just talking next time around. Next time around Deontay isn't gonna be fighting Wlad, Alexander/Mike or drop his belt lol.

Is there a date in play already for Deontay in June? I haven't heard anything so I didn't think it outrageous to suggest he could have a fight & another one on tap before May 22 with all these PBC dates that will need filling.

cold187 wrote:
Wlad WILL face FURY next

What makes you so sure?

Wladimir has stated after jennings he wants Wilder or Tyson fury.

I have a question, why doesnt he even talk about Ali raymi? 21 1st Round KOs against all undefeated fighters..

Ali raymi will easily KO the suspect chin dr. steelhammer