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So I was watching Bob Foster devastate Mike Quarry in what is truly one of the most horrific knockouts I have ever seen. Foster, for me, along with Julian Jackson is the hardest puncher I have ever seen. The affect on his opponents from his punches is brutal...ask Dick Tiger.
However, as we all know he struggled against the Heavyweights. Jerry Quarry on this night was totally outclassed by Ali who really had his number. So it occurred to me that a really great match up would have been Jerry Quarry vs Bob Foster.

Who ya got??

Quarry would take some stick but ko foster

yep. I agree. foster was a good hitter in his division but jerry takes them well enough and his extra physicality begins to tell on bob by the 6th or 7th round. quarry has a heavy whack himself and bob feels it more and more, eventually going down in the 9th.

I wonder if that left hook that sparked Mike would have brought the same conclusion had that have been Jerry taking it...

I think the fights a toss-up with Foster a small favorite. The HW's that gave Foster trouble were a lot bigger than Jerry (who was basically a cruiser) and two of them were Ali and Frazier so it's not like JQ sized guys were that much of a challenge to him.

Great question. I'm amazed I never thought of Jerry Q vs. Foster myself. If I had, I don't remember.

Anyway, I'll go with Quarry taking some shots as another poster alluded to but coming thru victorious because Foster got stopped By Terrell and shutout by Folley.

DaveyMac wrote:I think the fights a toss-up with Foster a small favorite. The HW's that gave Foster trouble were a lot bigger than Jerry (who was basically a cruiser) and two of them were Ali and Frazier so it's not like JQ sized guys were that much of a challenge to him.

Foster lost to all of the world class heavyweights he fought, and Folley and Frazier not big heavyweights. Terrell was tall but only around 200lbs. Quarry had his shortcomings but he was world class. There is a physical strength required to box at world level heavyweight that I dont think Foster had. Quarry was a good technical boxer, but he could also bang and was a strong man. So I think Quarry for me.

Quarry by KO.

Foster just didn't have the frame to hang with legit world class heavies.

He might use that long stick and the threat of a hard right to keep Quarry honest for several rounds, but Quarry would eventually get inside and batter Foster, before putting him away by the 7th.
Hell, Quarry did away with punchers like Foster, Lyle and Shavers. What could the smaller Foster bring that those guys couldn't?

Jerry too physically strong for Bob. You would have to think after Foster KO'ed Mike, the revenge fight for Jerry vs. Foster might have been discussed as it would have been a natural. Foster likely rejected it. But who knows.

I could see Foster getting iced in the 1st. Quarry was a fast starter and when you add that to the revenge factor it look's bad for Bob.

DaveyMac wrote:I think the fights a toss-up with Foster a small favorite. The HW's that gave Foster trouble were a lot bigger than Jerry (who was basically a cruiser) and two of them were Ali and Frazier so it's not like JQ sized guys were that much of a challenge to him.

naaah, don't think so. quarry was a top heavy in one of the divisions toughest eras. foster was a true light heavy great but comes up short against jerry.

I like the idea of this fight. I think JQ is just too much fighter for bob.....but foster would have his moments. I don't think this goes the distance.

evrenb wrote:So I was watching Bob Foster devastate Mike Quarry in what is truly one of the most horrific knockouts I have ever seen. Foster, for me, along with Julian Jackson is the hardest puncher I have ever seen. The affect on his opponents from his punches is brutal...ask Dick Tiger.
However, as we all know he struggled against the Heavyweights. Jerry Quarry on this night was totally outclassed by Ali who really had his number. So it occurred to me that a really great match up would have been Jerry Quarry vs Bob Foster.

Who ya got??

Foster was just unlucky to be around at the time of the greatest crop of HWs the world has ever seen.

No light-heavyweight in history would have made much of an impact in the 70s.

Klitschko is actually superior to all the 70s HWTS. Even Ali.

But most people can't handle that truth. They've been programmed to believe Ali and the 70s were the best era ever. It was the most exciting and entertaining (because of Ali) but Lennox Lewis and the Klitschkos took HWT boxing to a higher level.

montrealsuper wrote:Klitschko is actually superior to all the 70s HWTS. Even Ali.

But most people can't handle that truth. They've been programmed to believe Ali and the 70s were the best era ever. It was the most exciting and entertaining (because of Ali) but Lennox Lewis and the Klitschkos took HWT boxing to a higher level.

Seems to be a gaining popularity in opinion. I don't agree with it particularly but everyone has their own opinions and that is what makes the world go 'round.

montrealsuper wrote:Klitschko is actually superior to all the 70s HWTS. Even Ali.

But most people can't handle that truth. They've been programmed to believe Ali and the 70s were the best era ever. It was the most exciting and entertaining (because of Ali) but Lennox Lewis and the Klitschkos took HWT boxing to a higher level.

Statements like this keep this era as entertaining as any in history. If you happen to like fiction.

montrealsuper wrote:Klitschko is actually superior to all the 70s HWTS. Even Ali.

But most people can't handle that truth. They've been programmed to believe Ali and the 70s were the best era ever. It was the most exciting and entertaining (because of Ali) but Lennox Lewis and the Klitschkos took HWT boxing to a higher level.

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Would Wladimir Klitschko be able to fare well while facing every top heavyweight of the 1970s? While Klitschko may have been able to give all of the heavyweights of that era some problems, I think that he isn't durable enough to remain undefeated.

- Chuck Johnston

Chuck1052 wrote:Would Wladimir Klitschko be able to fare well while facing every top heavyweight of the 1970s? While Klitschko may have been able to give all of the heavyweights of that era some problems, I think that he isn't durable enough to remain undefeated.

- Chuck Johnston

Hell Chuck he is not durable to remain undefeated in his time.

montrealsuper wrote:Klitschko is actually superior to all the 70s HWTS. Even Ali.

But most people can't handle that truth. They've been programmed to believe Ali and the 70s were the best era ever. It was the most exciting and entertaining (because of Ali) but Lennox Lewis and the Klitschkos took HWT boxing to a higher level.

Please bear in mind that an opinion is just that; an opinion, not the truth or a fact.

You have no way of proving what you've said, so it cannot be the 'truth'.

I will tell you this :

Ali in his prime - 25 years old - 6feet three - natural 212lbs - 80 inch reach vs Klitschko at 35 (probable prime) 6ft 5 1/2 - 81 inch reach. Olympic Style drug testing to remove any element of misuse. The fight made on neutral ground with a completely neutral referee. In my opinion Ali would win in a tough fight. Now Klitschko has perfected the lean back and grab style that was taught to him as an amateur and extended by Manny Steward. Basically ; stand tall and use your height ; as you jab, lean back ; if your opponent comes close then grab for dear life and put all your weight on your opponent to sap the energy from their legs. Klitschko does have a very good jab, is very powerful and is awkward and makes all his physical advantages work for him very successfully. On the downside he has an average chin, can cut and stamina if the fight is not entirely his own way is average also. Ali at 25 had average power (decent), weight wise he would be relatively light by todays standards (make of that what you will). Ali was superfast with handspeed ; had a terrific jab, had enormous confidence and ring generalship, great stamina, an all time great chin but what is most important in my eyes is his footwork. This is what would beat a Klitschko ; great footwork. Someone who can avoid being clung too, one that could pounce and catch him. Haye could have done it and the last round showed that of their fight but he didn't have the ability and belief of Ali.

In my opinion then Ali stops Klitshko in about 8 rounds in a tough fight. This is the serious, competitive Ali of the Terrell fight.

I would like to add that Wlad is a great fighter and great role model and I am not one of those who jump on the bandwagon to put him down. He is a bit boring at times..

Foster is an ATG at 175 with tremendous power and a great jab but just lacked the chin and frame/bulk to compete with serious heavies of that era.

It's possible his jab could cause Quarry some issues and cut him up but I see Quarry stopping him late rounds or grinding out a decision.

montrealsuper wrote:Klitschko is actually superior to all the 70s HWTS. Even Ali.

But most people can't handle that truth. They've been programmed to believe Ali and the 70s were the best era ever. It was the most exciting and entertaining (because of Ali) but Lennox Lewis and the Klitschkos took HWT boxing to a higher level.

It was the best era because the fights were great. I guess you'd rather watch Wlad clinch some some no-hoper into submission but I prefer Ali-Frazier.

montrealsuper wrote:Klitschko is actually superior to all the 70s HWTS. Even Ali.

But most people can't handle that truth. They've been programmed to believe Ali and the 70s were the best era ever. It was the most exciting and entertaining (because of Ali) but Lennox Lewis and the Klitschkos took HWT boxing to a higher level.

And what transcendental level did the holy triumvirate of Rahman, Sanders and Brewster take boxing to? The Tenth Heaven?

I think Wlad's rather delicate chin (or have you forgotten his embarrassing KO losses to Sanders, Brewster and journeyman Puritty???) and lumbering movement eliminates him as someone who can hang with a mobile Muhammad Ali (or even a Frazier) or seriously deserve consideration as an all-time heavyweight top ten candidate.