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50 Bucks and Beer on the line.

Fighter A gets knocked down in a round 1 time, Fighter B gets knocked down 2 times in the same round. Assuming the rest of the round is even between knockdowns, what is the correct scoring of the round?

I'd score it 10-9 for fighter A.

AZOSI wrote:50 Bucks and Beer on the line.

Fighter A gets knocked down in a round 1 time, Fighter B gets knocked down 2 times in the same round. Assuming the rest of the round is even between knockdowns, what is the correct scoring of the round?

Normally that would be a 10-8 round.
But a couple of questions were these flash knockdowns?
Did one of the fighters struggle to get up before 10?

Just completely hypothetical. 3 identical knockdowns, I'm trying to explain to him, he's forgetting the 10 point must rule.

Ya the winner gets ten, but I think the number the loser gets is debatable.

crusader wrote:Ya the winner gets ten, but I think the number the loser gets is debatable.

Very debatable.

Fighter A wins the round 10-8. 2 of the 3 KD's cross each other out. Fighter A gets a 2nd KD thus an extra point plus the round, 10-8.

Isn't a KD one point off?

crusader wrote:Isn't a KD one point off?

Yea. Plus you'd give the round to the guy with 2KD's over the guy with 1KD. Or at least I would. Basically you'd score it like a round with one KD. 10-8.

I can see that, but if a round is even apart from a KD should the scoring deficit be wider than the single point the KD is supposed to be worth? I guess it depends on whether someone assigns a score to the round independent of the KD (so 10-10 in this case since it was even apart from the trips to the canvas) then make the deductions, or whether the KD is a considered in who won the round generally even before deductions are made.

I agree with Reggie, 10-8. But, it would depend on the severity of the knockdowns. If they are all completely equal knockdowns, as the OP said they are, it should be 10-8. But if the fighter who got dropped twice wasn't badly hurt with his knockdowns and the other fighter was badly hurt on the one, you could make a case for a 10-9. In any case, the winner MUST receive 10 points, hence the 10 point must system. It is a common error in thinking when people think that a knockdown negates that rule, or that even a point deduction negates it--even in the case of a point deduction, I believe the official rule is that the round is still officially scored 10-x, with the point technically being taken away from the final tally (I could be wrong, but I seem to remember reading that).

crusader wrote:I can see that, but if a round is even apart from a KD should the scoring deficit be wider than the single point the KD is supposed to be worth? I guess it depends on whether someone assigns a score to the round independent of the KD (so 10-10 in this case since it was even apart from the trips to the canvas) then make the deductions, or whether the KD is a considered in who won the round generally even before deductions are made.

For me the 2nd KD decides the "all else being equal round" for fighter A cuz its not equal anymore when you consider the extra KD. And then the extra KD just so happens to have the benefit of distancing the round by an extra point.

There's always potential variables in there that could make it go a lil more this way or that way like Rampage brings up, but the vast majority of the time it'd be a 10-8 on my scorecard.

i'd go with 10-9, though 10-8 would be fair as well

fighter A with two knockdowns would win a round 10-7, fighter b would win 10-8 with one, and the KDS not happening in same round
the one point discrepancy on how it'd be scored over two rounds, i'd make the round with 3 KDS( them trading) a 10-9 round for fighter A

It's a 10-8 round.

If 2 fighters trade knockdowns then the winner of the rounds takes it 10-9.

A 3rd knockdown puts it back to 10-8.

I'm racking my brain trying to think of an instance of it so u can see how the judge's scored it. Maybe simething like Maidana v Ortiz?

surely there must be instances where neither boxer recieves 10 pnts ? If boxer A wins the round comfortably and scores a knockdown but also gets a point docked for a low blow wouldnt that result in a 9-8 round ?

littlepug wrote:surely there must be instances where neither boxer recieves 10 pnts ? If boxer A wins the round comfortably and scores a knockdown but also gets a point docked for a low blow wouldnt that result in a 9-8 round ?

Point deductions are recorded in the round, but minused from the final score I believe.

Lenny Cravats wrote:

littlepug wrote:surely there must be instances where neither boxer recieves 10 pnts ? If boxer A wins the round comfortably and scores a knockdown but also gets a point docked for a low blow wouldnt that result in a 9-8 round ?

Point deductions are recorded in the round, but minused from the final score I believe.

ah ok

littlepug wrote:surely there must be instances where neither boxer recieves 10 pnts ? If boxer A wins the round comfortably and scores a knockdown but also gets a point docked for a low blow wouldnt that result in a 9-8 round ?

The point is remived after the round is scored.

So the judges thought proces is, Fighter A wkns the round 10-8 as per the TPM system.

Fighter has a point deduction. 9-8.

Ricky_ wrote:

littlepug wrote:surely there must be instances where neither boxer recieves 10 pnts ? If boxer A wins the round comfortably and scores a knockdown but also gets a point docked for a low blow wouldnt that result in a 9-8 round ?

The point is remived after the round is scored.

So the judges thought proces is, Fighter A wkns the round 10-8 as per the TPM system.

Fighter has a point deduction. 9-8.

Correct.
The 10 point must system is about the easiest way to score a fight or screw it up.
When it works it works great and when it fails......Well everyone wants to kill a judge.

Thank you all. I knew this was the place to come to settle it. My argument was for a 10-8 round, he wanted to argue 9-8. He realizes the error of his ways and gave me my 50. bucks...still waiting on my beer though.

crusader wrote:I'd score it 10-9 for fighter A.

Yup. Me too.

Fighter A 10-8, if going strictly by the rules.

10-8 for fighter A if, as JCS said, "going strictly by the rules. !0 point must system; Fighter A scores 2 knockdowns & sustains 1 so that makes it +1 point for the 2-1 knockdown advantage & another 1 point because that advantage gives him the point for winning the round (by virtue of 2 kd's - 1). It follows the same protocol had fighter A had scored 1 knockdown & sustained none.

Tony1244 wrote:

crusader wrote:I'd score it 10-9 for fighter A.

Yup. Me too.

You don't know the rules.

Can you post these rules?

If everything is even aside from a knockdown, and knockdowns are worth a point each, where do the rules mandate that the boxer who scored the KD wins the round by two points?