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Posted: **23 Feb 2015, 23:18**

A shout out to Qasim Hussein, who at the ripe old age of 21 has compiled a record of 1-23-2. Yes the record is shoddy but this young lad has managed to go the distance in all but one of his 26 fights.

Keep slipping those punches Qasim!

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Posted: **24 Feb 2015, 09:00**

Hi Qasim!

Posted: **24 Feb 2015, 10:29**

Interesting record these guys have who lose almost their fights but are very tough to stop. There's a cruiser/Hw guy named something like Moses Mostev who dropped a decision to Hughie Fury like that. Another HW Marion Wilson was ripped but couldn't break an egg. He almost always went the distance as well.

Posted: **24 Feb 2015, 13:26**

yu265545 wrote:A shout out to Qasim Hussein, who at the ripe old age of 21 has compiled a record of 1-23-2. Yes the record is shoddy but this young lad has managed to go the distance in all but one of his 25 fights.

Keep slipping those punches Qasim!

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

1-23-2 is 26 fights, not 25.

Posted: **24 Feb 2015, 14:04**

expe wrote:
yu265545 wrote:A shout out to Qasim Hussein, who at the ripe old age of 21 has compiled a record of 1-23-2. Yes the record is shoddy but this young lad has managed to go the distance in all but one of his 25 fights.

Keep slipping those punches Qasim!

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer
1-23-2 is 26 fights, not 25.

I guess I haven't slipped enough punches.

Posted: **24 Feb 2015, 22:05**

I love fighters like him, tough as nails.

Posted: **25 Feb 2015, 00:57**

Sucks to be David Lake lol

Posted: **25 Feb 2015, 18:00**

These are the types of guys who need to have their license taken away or suspended. Thats the problem with boxing. If you suck at pro football or pro baseball you get kicked off the team, but any asshole who doesn't fall off the treadmill can have 100 pro fights if they are capable.

Posted: **25 Feb 2015, 22:28**

ReggieDiggs wrote:These are the types of guys who need to have their license taken away or suspended. Thats the problem with boxing. If you suck at pro football or pro baseball you get kicked off the team, but any asshole who doesn't fall off the treadmill can have 100 pro fights if they are capable.

I do not agree with this I believe if a guy shows up and losses every round but stays in there and takes it to the cards they should be able to continue to fight if a guy comes and gets hit and just lays down his license should be pulled but a guy that goes the distance in fights gives up and coming fighters what they need and that is expirence going extra rounds it is a lot harder to get beat up then it is to give the beating but again this is just my opinion I have been on both sides of it

Posted: **26 Feb 2015, 02:21**

ReggieDiggs wrote:These are the types of guys who need to have their license taken away or suspended. Thats the problem with boxing. If you suck at pro football or pro baseball you get kicked off the team, but any asshole who doesn't fall off the treadmill can have 100 pro fights if they are capable.

I think it takes a bit more having a hundred fights than simply 'not falling off a treadmill'. Nearly 8000 posts and you havent grasped the basic principles of boxing. Pretty easy to figure out the Asshole.

Posted: **26 Feb 2015, 03:27**

tsmithy50 wrote:
ReggieDiggs wrote:These are the types of guys who need to have their license taken away or suspended. Thats the problem with boxing. If you suck at pro football or pro baseball you get kicked off the team, but any asshole who doesn't fall off the treadmill can have 100 pro fights if they are capable.
I think it takes a bit more having a hundred fights than simply 'not falling off a treadmill'. Nearly 8000 posts and you havent grasped the basic principles of boxing. Pretty easy to figure out the Asshole.

You can't tell me that a lot of these fighters aren't a lot more capable than the performances they give? I am not refering to Qasim Hussein here, but a lot of guys step into these fights with no desire to win - they basically hire their bodies out as moving punching bags for cash. They often have a lot of skills but choose not to use them to win.

Posted: **26 Feb 2015, 09:56**

Gnome wrote:
tsmithy50 wrote:
ReggieDiggs wrote:These are the types of guys who need to have their license taken away or suspended. Thats the problem with boxing. If you suck at pro football or pro baseball you get kicked off the team, but any asshole who doesn't fall off the treadmill can have 100 pro fights if they are capable.
I think it takes a bit more having a hundred fights than simply 'not falling off a treadmill'. Nearly 8000 posts and you havent grasped the basic principles of boxing. Pretty easy to figure out the Asshole.
You can't tell me that a lot of these fighters aren't a lot more capable than the performances they give? I am not refering to Qasim Hussein here, but a lot of guys step into these fights with no desire to win - they basically hire their bodies out as moving punching bags for cash. They often have a lot of skills but choose not to use them to win.

I do agree they could give more effort but if they do they would get stopped more often because they would open there self up to actually get hit clean but they put there ear muffs on and just weather the storm I have a guy that use to fight for me Keith Collins he started out 2-0 and I believe he is like 4-27 something like that kid has the skill to be better but just gives away rounds to much I see both sides to this but if they are not laying down after they get hit once or twice they deserve a license, as long as they clear all there medicals example a Nero exam would be hard for a fighter that is getting punch drunk if givin correct there are doctors that will just pass a fighter to get paid but a good neurologist would give a correct test but I see all sides to this but I feel every man has a right to make his money

Posted: **26 Feb 2015, 12:00**

tsmithy50 wrote:
ReggieDiggs wrote:These are the types of guys who need to have their license taken away or suspended. Thats the problem with boxing. If you suck at pro football or pro baseball you get kicked off the team, but any asshole who doesn't fall off the treadmill can have 100 pro fights if they are capable.
I think it takes a bit more having a hundred fights than simply 'not falling off a treadmill'. Nearly 8000 posts and you havent grasped the basic principles of boxing. Pretty easy to figure out the Asshole.

Completely shocked someone would misunderstand what I'm saying & start calling me names

Posted: **26 Feb 2015, 12:42**

GalenBadBoyBrown wrote:
ReggieDiggs wrote:These are the types of guys who need to have their license taken away or suspended. Thats the problem with boxing. If you suck at pro football or pro baseball you get kicked off the team, but any asshole who doesn't fall off the treadmill can have 100 pro fights if they are capable.
I do not agree with this I believe if a guy shows up and losses every round but stays in there and takes it to the cards they should be able to continue to fight if a guy comes and gets hit and just lays down his license should be pulled but a guy that goes the distance in fights gives up and coming fighters what they need and that is expirence going extra rounds it is a lot harder to get beat up then it is to give the beating but again this is just my opinion I have been on both sides of it

I just wanna see more competitiveness in the sport.

Tbh I'd rather see someone get merked in 2minutes he's so outclassed then being not quite bad enough, but not quite good enough & just loses 1-9 or 0-6 or 0-8 in every fight. I don't think either guy should be allowed to call themselves "pro" & its just cuz commissions don't give a damn that this is the case & being a pro boxer is probably as accessible as owning a handgun.

With the requirements as they are to be a pro boxer I'd guess 75% or more of males between 18-25 & maybe 50% or more between 26-30 could get a pro boxing license IF THEY WANTED one. I don't think its that hard a process & its embarrassing to the sport that its basically the bowling of pro sports in this way. If no value is put on the quality of the participants of the sport under the definition of pro at least make a semi-pro kinda pool of boxers to keep them away from the talented boxers who are capable of excelling at a high level.

I'd love to hear the things that you feel exclude unqualified applicants from getting a boxing license as a person who's been through the process. I think we've all heard of guys blind in one eye still able to get a boxing license. Matter of fact I know of a guy who's got a glass eye who had one pro fight before they found out that important info (edit: lmmfao, while looking him up apparently he's also recently got his glass eye knocked out in a amateur mma fight that had some viralness to it that I missed).

Link to video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8Fr1e2IEio

And thats just extreme level things that should be disqualifying people from competing. I don't think anyone who's not had amateur fights should be allowed to box pro without having some success as a amateur. Its debatable what should or shouldn't allow you to box pro, but falling off the treadmill or serious health issues shouldn't be the biggest disqualifier.

Basically though I do no believe these are high quality exams deciding if one is truly capable of a career in the getting hit in the head business. And if you do pass, but you show a inefficient ability to win fights at some bare minimum level I think you should be getting that license suspended or revoked for your own benefit on a altruistic sorta level cuz there has gotta be better ways for you to make a living & on a selfish boxing fan sorta level for the betterment of the sport.

Posted: **26 Feb 2015, 14:25**

I aint here to argue everyone is able to state what they truly believe on hear I know fighters that have had there license pulled because there losing fights and actually trying to win but there just overmatched and chances of winning are about same odds of winning lottery. But as for me personally I was a street kid no amateur fights and was in the audience and they needed someone to fight Allen "Southside" Smith I didn't know the guy had 44 pro fights all I knew is that I was making $300 and I was 20 years old had a kid already and my girlfriend which is my wife now was pregnant with second child but without that opportunity I wouldn't have been fighting for going on 14 years but every story is different then mine but with out chances no one will ever be able to tell there story

Posted: **26 Feb 2015, 14:27**

GalenBadBoyBrown wrote:I aint here to argue everyone is able to state what they truly believe on hear I know fighters that have had there license pulled because there losing fights and actually trying to win but there just overmatched and chances of winning are about same odds of winning lottery. But as for me personally I was a street kid no amateur fights and was in the audience and they needed someone to fight Allen "Southside" Smith I didn't know the guy had 44 pro fights all I knew is that I was making $300 and I was 20 years old had a kid already and my girlfriend which is my wife now was pregnant with second child but without that opportunity I wouldn't have been fighting for going on 14 years but every story is different then mine but with out chances no one will ever be able to tell there story

Again this is before you had to have blood work and physicals also

Posted: **26 Feb 2015, 15:14**

GalenBadBoyBrown wrote:I aint here to argue everyone is able to state what they truly believe on hear I know fighters that have had there license pulled because there losing fights and actually trying to win but there just overmatched and chances of winning are about same odds of winning lottery. But as for me personally I was a street kid no amateur fights and was in the audience and they needed someone to fight Allen "Southside" Smith I didn't know the guy had 44 pro fights all I knew is that I was making $300 and I was 20 years old had a kid already and my girlfriend which is my wife now was pregnant with second child but without that opportunity I wouldn't have been fighting for going on 14 years but every story is different then mine but with out chances no one will ever be able to tell there story

Oh man. See this is exactly what I'm saying. Boxing commissions give no f#cks. This is a criminal action imho. If you had been injured or killed in that fight all hell coulda broke lose.

And fwiw this ain't no diss to you or guys like you. Sh!t man I respect the hustling aspect of this as a hustler myself, but as a boxing fan I just don't like the caliber of "pros" commissions approve & even a step further, with what you just brought up, the matchmaking commissions allow. This Qasim kid has shown he can't even compete with pro debut caliber guys. If you aren't able to fight that level of competition, best case you should be fighting only other guys with horrible losing records & worse case you should have your license revoked for not being capable of being competitive with other "pros".

Posted: **26 Feb 2015, 16:29**

ReggieDiggs wrote:
GalenBadBoyBrown wrote:I aint here to argue everyone is able to state what they truly believe on hear I know fighters that have had there license pulled because there losing fights and actually trying to win but there just overmatched and chances of winning are about same odds of winning lottery. But as for me personally I was a street kid no amateur fights and was in the audience and they needed someone to fight Allen "Southside" Smith I didn't know the guy had 44 pro fights all I knew is that I was making $300 and I was 20 years old had a kid already and my girlfriend which is my wife now was pregnant with second child but without that opportunity I wouldn't have been fighting for going on 14 years but every story is different then mine but with out chances no one will ever be able to tell there story
Oh man. See this is exactly what I'm saying. Boxing commissions give no f#cks. This is a criminal action imho. If you had been injured or killed in that fight all hell coulda broke lose.

And fwiw this ain't no diss to you or guys like you. Sh!t man I respect the hustling aspect of this as a hustler myself, but as a boxing fan I just don't like the caliber of "pros" commissions approve & even a step further, with what you just brought up, the matchmaking commissions allow. This Qasim kid has shown he can't even compete with pro debut caliber guys. If you aren't able to fight that level of competition, best case you should be fighting only other guys with horrible losing records & worse case you should have your license revoked for not being capable of being competitive with other "pros".

Point taken if I would have been hurt seriously or killed it would have been blown up but the same didn't happen when I won the fight it's for sure about the hustle making the quick dollar but I see your point and hope you see mine also, it's crazy because I have fought for a lot of Commision some like Iowa I fought a 0-1 guy and Kansas said I couldn't fight a guy that was 19 and has 20 fights because I was to much older then him it's a crazy business and commissions don't work the same and they should all work the same way

Posted: **28 Feb 2015, 00:19**

The 22 fight losing streak is OVER! Qasim won his fight earlier today - knocking off undefeated fighter Josh Morgan (4-0-1) by unanimous decision.

Take that Reggiediggs!

Posted: **28 Feb 2015, 00:36**

good to hear

Posted: **28 Feb 2015, 12:41**

yu265545 wrote:The 22 fight losing streak is OVER! Qasim won his fight earlier today - knocking off undefeated fighter Josh Morgan (4-0-1) by unanimous decision.

Take that Reggiediggs!

A broken clock is right twice a day. I'm sure Qasim will be 51-23-2 in no time now

Posted: **01 Mar 2015, 14:35**

ReggieDiggs wrote:
yu265545 wrote:The 22 fight losing streak is OVER! Qasim won his fight earlier today - knocking off undefeated fighter Josh Morgan (4-0-1) by unanimous decision.

Take that Reggiediggs!

A broken clock is right twice a day. I'm sure Qasim will be 51-23-2 in no time now

It is quite obvious from your posts on this thread that you don't really 'get' the role of journeymen in boxing.

You see some of them could win their bouts (some do win but still don;t get the W against the home fighter/prospect), which are usually against up and coming undefeated fighters, but then they won't get fights against other fighters. Usually they're not big ticket sellers and don't have a big following so the promoters are not bothered about putting them on or getting behind them.

If you dont have a promoter who will back you because you can't sell enough tickets to line their pockets, but you still love the sport and want to be involved, maybe because it's all you've wanted since being a kid then taking to the road, boxing clever and helping a prospect get rounds whilst teaching them a few lessons is in all while picking up a few £££ is imo a respectable thing.

I was there Friday Kas, good result and performance.

Posted: **01 Mar 2015, 17:26**

Kingfield wrote:It is quite obvious from your posts on this thread that you don't really 'get' the role of journeymen in boxing.

You see some of them could win their bouts (some do win but still don;t get the W against the home fighter/prospect), which are usually against up and coming undefeated fighters, but then they won't get fights against other fighters. Usually they're not big ticket sellers and don't have a big following so the promoters are not bothered about putting them on or getting behind them.

If you dont have a promoter who will back you because you can't sell enough tickets to line their pockets, but you still love the sport and want to be involved, maybe because it's all you've wanted since being a kid then taking to the road, boxing clever and helping a prospect get rounds whilst teaching them a few lessons is in all while picking up a few £££ is imo a respectable thing.

I was there Friday Kas, good result and performance.

I understand the journeymen role, in this case I wouldn't call it a journeymen role though. A journeyman would be winning more fights. I'd also suggest that a guy on this level like this cat vs pro debut & under 10 fight kinda guys isn't a needed role in the sport or boxing would be lost without.

And if these guys are losing on purpose or just not trying to win (as I believe we both know is a fact often enough) I'd say thats kinda like fixing a fight. I mean it is fixing a fight, but on a eye wink sorta level. This is a whole other subject though.

Like I said my main issue here isn't hating on anyone or not understanding their role for the allegedly greater good of the sport. I'm a fan who wants a better quality of product & I think most fans who'd go to a fight would rather see two guys with winning records fighting each other & trying to actually win & being capable of winning or even two guys with losing records fighting each other & trying to actually win & being capable of winning than the 18-0 guy who's trying to win vs the 4-17 guy who's just in there for a check & isn't really trying to win the fight.

Posted: **01 Mar 2015, 18:33**

Reggie I side with Galen on this one. If someone can last the rounds the loss does not matter what there record is. I side with you if that the licence should be withdrawn if he keeps getting stopped.

These 2-21-3 guys are the backbone, they offer a great 'red corner' for the blue to learn from, equally someone 14-0 should not be feasting on them, though sometimes an opponent falls thru and these guys show up to complete the card.

As long as they don't get hurt its ok.

Posted: **01 Mar 2015, 18:36**

Lennox wrote:Reggie I side with Galen on this one. If someone can last the rounds the loss does not matter what there record is. I side with you if that the licence should be withdrawn if he keeps getting stopped.

These 2-21-3 guys are the backbone, they offer a great 'red corner' for the blue to learn from, equally someone 14-0 should not be feasting on them, though sometimes an opponent falls thru and these guys show up to complete the card.

As long as they don't get hurt its ok, I think there are instances they could win a fight and they know there place, so choose to dip.

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