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Sparring partners for Floyd and Manny.

Posted: 25 Feb 2015, 14:09
by VG_Addict
Who would make good sparring partners for Floyd and Manny, to prepare for their fight?

I think Manny should spar with Dulorme or Crawford.

Re: Sparring partners for Floyd and Manny.

Posted: 25 Feb 2015, 14:33
by Ricky_
Pacquiao should spar with Lara.

Re: Sparring partners for Floyd and Manny.

Posted: 25 Feb 2015, 14:36
by Chepppaaa
Ricky_ wrote:Pacquiao should spar with Lara.
100 % this

somebody with range, quick, great footwork and defensive skills, lara is all that guy.

who comes to my mind except lara?

let me think. bradley comes to my mind, he brings in speed. brook, because he got similar size to floyd and same as floyd, brook is also very sound technicly and athleticly.

Re: Sparring partners for Floyd and Manny.

Posted: 25 Feb 2015, 14:38
by VG_Addict
Maidana sparred with Dulorme to prepare for Floyd.

Re: Sparring partners for Floyd and Manny.

Posted: 25 Feb 2015, 14:47
by Ricky_
fergusg wrote:
Ricky_ wrote:Pacquiao should spar with Lara.
So Al Haymon is going to allow one of his own fighters (Erislandy Lara) help a Top Rank/HBO fighter (Manny Pacquiao) to prepare to face another Al Haymon boxer (Floyd Mayweather Jr.)? :confused: :?? :o

FFS! :neutral:

Somehow i doubt Haymon has a contract with Lara that includes a veto over who he spars with.

Re: Sparring partners for Floyd and Manny.

Posted: 25 Feb 2015, 15:38
by Monte Fisto
i thought this was an advert :box: :bag:

Re: Sparring partners for Floyd and Manny.

Posted: 25 Feb 2015, 15:42
by cletomex
Why on earth would Manny spar a southpaw (Lara)?

Re: Sparring partners for Floyd and Manny.

Posted: 25 Feb 2015, 15:52
by Dennis
Neither guy is going to find a lot of sparring partners who are stylistically similar to their opponent plus have similar height, reach, speed, footwork, etc. If Manny is able to do so, he should get guys who have good defense and have fast hands. Long arms would be a plus too. Floyd will spar with southpaws who are quick.

Re: Sparring partners for Floyd and Manny.

Posted: 25 Feb 2015, 15:54
by IKSRTFO
Dennis wrote:Neither guy is going to find a lot of sparring partners who are stylistically similar to their opponent plus have similar height, reach, speed, footwork, etc. If Manny is able to do so, he should get guys who have good defense and have fast hands. Long arms would be a plus too. Floyd will spar with southpaws who are quick.
Terrence Crawford for Pacquiao

Re: Sparring partners for Floyd and Manny.

Posted: 25 Feb 2015, 16:21
by Dennis
You also have to remember that many world champions aren't going to be sparring partners for other boxers. I'm not saying that Crawford won't do it, but maybe he has to get ready for his own fight and sparring Pacquiao isn't the right fit. Crawford isn't who I would get if I was picking the sparring partners for Pacquiao.

Re: Sparring partners for Floyd and Manny.

Posted: 25 Feb 2015, 16:23
by Ricky_
cletomex wrote:Why on earth would Manny spar a southpaw (Lara)?

I forgot Lara was a SP but sparring partners are paid to emulate opponents. Lara's long and fast.

Re: Sparring partners for Floyd and Manny.

Posted: 25 Feb 2015, 16:26
by ikorolev
Dennis wrote:You also have to remember that many world champions aren't going to be sparring partners for other boxers. I'm not saying that Crawford won't do it, but maybe he has to get ready for his own fight and sparring Pacquiao isn't the right fit. Crawford isn't who I would get if I was picking the sparring partners for Pacquiao.
Right. Floyd could use Allakhverdiev as one of his sparring partners. He is a hard hitting southpaw. Of course, he lacks speed, but you can't find anybody as good as Manny in all aspects.

Re: Sparring partners for Floyd and Manny.

Posted: 25 Feb 2015, 16:34
by Dennis
Floyd could get Errol Spence Jr, Sammy Vasquez, Austin Trout, Erickson Lubin, Chris Pearson, and Fernando Guerrero. There are a lot of other young pros and some excellent amateurs who could fit the bill too.

Re: Sparring partners for Floyd and Manny.

Posted: 25 Feb 2015, 16:36
by koolkc107
If I am Floyd, I hire Gary Russell, take a little padding out of a regulation 8 oz glove, and tell Russell to throw with abandon.

Oh yeah, no headgear for Floyd. :TU:

Re: Sparring partners for Floyd and Manny.

Posted: 25 Feb 2015, 16:39
by Dennis
I think it is much easier for Floyd to find sparring partners to imitate Manny than it will be for Manny to find guys who can play "Floyd". For Manny he will need guys who are great at defense (that limits the talent pool a LOT) especially with the shoulder roll defense (reduces the potential quality sparring partners down even further) and have lightning quick reflexes and pinpoint accuracy (forget trying to find that combination). Broner wouldn't be a bad sparring partner for Manny, but you know he isn't going to help Manny get ready for Floyd.

Re: Sparring partners for Floyd and Manny.

Posted: 25 Feb 2015, 16:41
by IKSRTFO
Dennis wrote:You also have to remember that many world champions aren't going to be sparring partners for other boxers. I'm not saying that Crawford won't do it, but maybe he has to get ready for his own fight and sparring Pacquiao isn't the right fit. Crawford isn't who I would get if I was picking the sparring partners for Pacquiao.

Crawford was Bradley's sparring partner
Mosley was DLH's sparring partner for Floyd
Khan and Pacquiao sparred with one another

Re: Sparring partners for Floyd and Manny.

Posted: 25 Feb 2015, 16:42
by Dennis
koolkc107 wrote:If I am Floyd, I hire Gary Russell, take a little padding out of a regulation 8 oz glove, and tell Russell to throw with abandon.

Oh yeah, no headgear for Floyd. :TU:
Actually Gary Russell wouldn't be the worst sparring partner for Floyd. But does it help Gary get ready for his upcoming world title fight?

Re: Sparring partners for Floyd and Manny.

Posted: 25 Feb 2015, 16:44
by Dennis
IKSRTFO wrote:
Dennis wrote:You also have to remember that many world champions aren't going to be sparring partners for other boxers. I'm not saying that Crawford won't do it, but maybe he has to get ready for his own fight and sparring Pacquiao isn't the right fit. Crawford isn't who I would get if I was picking the sparring partners for Pacquiao.

Crawford was Bradley's sparring partner
Mosley was DLH's sparring partner for Floyd
Khan and Pacquiao sparred with one another
Mosley and DLH were business partners. Khan and Pacquiao were teammates both being trained by Roach at the time. There are times when guys will do it but there are many who won't.

Re: Sparring partners for Floyd and Manny.

Posted: 25 Feb 2015, 16:47
by ReggieDiggs
Dennis wrote:You also have to remember that many world champions aren't going to be sparring partners for other boxers. I'm not saying that Crawford won't do it, but maybe he has to get ready for his own fight and sparring Pacquiao isn't the right fit. Crawford isn't who I would get if I was picking the sparring partners for Pacquiao.
This. lol at Crawford who's a champ & a p4p cat in his own right being demoted to sparring partner.

I think Floyd should bring in Errol Spence. Errol gets lotsa accolades in sparring & I believe Floyd himself hyped him after being a sparring partner in one of his last couple fights. Idk that Zab is quite as quick as he used to be, but Floyd should definitely bring in a solid southpaw with some speed.

Re: Sparring partners for Floyd and Manny.

Posted: 25 Feb 2015, 16:49
by koolkc107
Dennis wrote:
koolkc107 wrote:If I am Floyd, I hire Gary Russell, take a little padding out of a regulation 8 oz glove, and tell Russell to throw with abandon.

Oh yeah, no headgear for Floyd. :TU:
Actually Gary Russell wouldn't be the worst sparring partner for Floyd. But does it help Gary get ready for his upcoming world title fight?
Maybe, maybe not.

I'd say trying to hit a defensive legend can't hurt your accuracy against a much less skilled guy. And being that Floyd is much bigger should be a plus in getting Gary ready for Gonzalez's power.

But I agree, style-wise not much there.

Re: Sparring partners for Floyd and Manny.

Posted: 25 Feb 2015, 17:11
by VG_Addict
Again, what about Dulorme?

Re: Sparring partners for Floyd and Manny.

Posted: 25 Feb 2015, 18:09
by Dennis
VG_Addict wrote:Again, what about Dulorme?
Same response as for Crawford. Dulorme is challenging Crawford for the world title. It is a huge fight for him. He needs to focus on his own training. If he thinks sparring with Manny Pacquiao is going to help him get ready for Crawford, then fine. I don't see it.

Re: Sparring partners for Floyd and Manny.

Posted: 25 Feb 2015, 18:43
by Impractical Poster
IKSRTFO wrote:
Dennis wrote:Neither guy is going to find a lot of sparring partners who are stylistically similar to their opponent plus have similar height, reach, speed, footwork, etc. If Manny is able to do so, he should get guys who have good defense and have fast hands. Long arms would be a plus too. Floyd will spar with southpaws who are quick.
Terrence Crawford for Pacquiao
:TU: :TU: Absolutely. Have both, Crawford and Lara.

In this aspect, Manny has an advantage. While there is no one quite as good as Floyd, Manny can find a couple guys that are very well technically and quick which are similar to Floyd.

However, Manny has an incredibly unique rhythm. He is also extremely fast, and is a southpaw. Floyd will have to figure Manny out on the fly. I believe he will do it, barring getting KOed first. The question is how long will it take him to peg Manny and get going. It took him 4 rounds against Judah. And Manny is notches above Zab.

Re: Sparring partners for Floyd and Manny.

Posted: 25 Feb 2015, 18:49
by KBB
Both should go to Hollywood and get them to make some holographic projections made of one another and have it incorporate all of each other's moves and spar against that, lol.

I really don't know who would be possible to emulate the other fighter, there isn't anyone I know of in boxing that fights like either man.

Re: Sparring partners for Floyd and Manny.

Posted: 25 Feb 2015, 18:57
by CTaylor1999
Chris Eubank Jnr has officially said on his twitter feed that he is going to be part of The Money team in the build up to the fight..

So that is one of Floyd's sparring partners.