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Thurman vs Guerrero UK TV

Posted: 25 Feb 2015, 21:12
by Joellucketti
With this fight being only a week away pretty much. Any news on wether skys etc are gunna pick it up??? Or did I miss something and not see it announced??

Re: Thurman vs Guerrero UK TV

Posted: 26 Feb 2015, 05:01
by chad
Joellucketti wrote:With this fight being only a week away pretty much. Any news on wether skys etc are gunna pick it up??? Or did I miss something and not see it announced??
It's not looking at the moment. Virgin Medias TiVo EPG confirms B0xnati0n are showing Shiming Vs. Ruenroeng in the small hours of Sunday morning that weekend, which would suggest they haven't picked up Thurman vs Guerrero. It also shows SKY Sports are showing a repeat of Tommy Coyle Vs. Martin Gethin in the wee hours of the morning too.

I'll have a proper dig around the EPG when I get home, just incase it's on a surprise channel like 5USA, Eurosport or Premier Sports.

If SKY have it, I'd expect them to announce it tonight on Ringside.

Re: Thurman vs Guerrero UK TV

Posted: 26 Feb 2015, 06:39
by Stuarty
chad wrote:
Joellucketti wrote:With this fight being only a week away pretty much. Any news on wether skys etc are gunna pick it up??? Or did I miss something and not see it announced??
It's not looking at the moment. Virgin Medias TiVo EPG confirms B0xnati0n are showing Shiming Vs. Ruenroeng in the small hours of Sunday morning that weekend, which would suggest they haven't picked up Thurman vs Guerrero. It also shows SKY Sports are showing a repeat of Tommy Coyle Vs. Martin Gethin in the wee hours of the morning too.

I'll have a proper dig around the EPG when I get home, just incase it's on a surprise channel like 5USA, Eurosport or Premier Sports.

If SKY have it, I'd expect them to announce it tonight on Ringside.

Surely someone will have it. I had just assumed that it would be on. I hadn't realised no one had announced it yet! I don't have much interest in the Shiming fight. Have watched him a few times now and he bores me.

Re: Thurman vs Guerrero UK TV

Posted: 26 Feb 2015, 06:46
by ste1983
Stuarty30 wrote:
chad wrote:
Joellucketti wrote:With this fight being only a week away pretty much. Any news on wether skys etc are gunna pick it up??? Or did I miss something and not see it announced??
It's not looking at the moment. Virgin Medias TiVo EPG confirms B0xnati0n are showing Shiming Vs. Ruenroeng in the small hours of Sunday morning that weekend, which would suggest they haven't picked up Thurman vs Guerrero. It also shows SKY Sports are showing a repeat of Tommy Coyle Vs. Martin Gethin in the wee hours of the morning too.

I'll have a proper dig around the EPG when I get home, just incase it's on a surprise channel like 5USA, Eurosport or Premier Sports.

If SKY have it, I'd expect them to announce it tonight on Ringside.

Surely someone will have it. I had just assumed that it would be on. I hadn't realised no one had announced it yet! I don't have much interest in the Shiming fight. Have watched him a few times now and he bores me.
I'm hoping someone picks it up, I'm the same just presumed it was on somewhere and just need to check.

Is the Shimming fight definitely US time then?

Re: Thurman vs Guerrero UK TV

Posted: 26 Feb 2015, 06:52
by Manchester Hitman
If BN don't get it on even if it's shown the next day due them already buying the Zoo fight
Then it would be a disgrace (assuming sky haven't picked it up)

Re: Thurman vs Guerrero UK TV

Posted: 26 Feb 2015, 08:25
by thatllbeme
someone tweeted buncey about this and he replied with 'news soon' so hopefully bocksnation listening to their viewers as there's been lots of requests on their facebook page

Re: Thurman vs Guerrero UK TV

Posted: 26 Feb 2015, 09:01
by Stuarty
thatllbeme wrote:someone tweeted buncey about this and he replied with 'news soon' so hopefully bocksnation listening to their viewers as there's been lots of requests on their facebook page
Sounds promising.

Re: Thurman vs Guerrero UK TV

Posted: 26 Feb 2015, 09:34
by JimJim2009
Getting used to BN in 2015 is like the dwindling sex life of a married couple. Used to be frequent, now it's down to less than once a week, and once a fortnight on average.....

Re: Thurman vs Guerrero UK TV

Posted: 26 Feb 2015, 09:53
by ste1983
JimJim2009 wrote:Getting used to BN in 2015 is like the dwindling sex life of a married couple. Used to be frequent, now it's down to less than once a week, and once a fortnight on average.....
Really? Theres 2 shows on each weekend for the next two weeks, there was shows on last weekend and the weekend before.

People moaned before they didn't have enough domestic shows on but that definitelly seems to be picking up

Re: Thurman vs Guerrero UK TV

Posted: 26 Feb 2015, 10:28
by JimJim2009
Well, I mean on average since the start of the year, in fairness it has picked up now and hopefully it will remain that way.

Re: Thurman vs Guerrero UK TV

Posted: 02 Mar 2015, 11:03
by ste1983
The Shiming fight is on Saturday afternoon UK time so Box-nation could still pick up this show.

If they did it would be one impressive weekend (3 shows) from Box-nation

Re: Thurman vs Guerrero UK TV

Posted: 02 Mar 2015, 11:04
by ste1983
JimJim2009 wrote:Well, I mean on average since the start of the year, in fairness it has picked up now and hopefully it will remain that way.
January is always quiet across the board Sky only had 1 show in that time and that was late in the month

Re: Thurman vs Guerrero UK TV

Posted: 02 Mar 2015, 17:18
by Kilburn
I see Thurman v Guererro as one of those "watch the first round then fast forward to the 12th" kind of affairs.

Provodnikov v Mathyesse on the other hand...

Re: Thurman vs Guerrero UK TV

Posted: 03 Mar 2015, 08:36
by ChieftanDublin
Any updates on this? Can't believe that this card isnt going to be on TV

Re: Thurman vs Guerrero UK TV

Posted: 03 Mar 2015, 09:08
by PokerRob
ChieftanDublin wrote:Any updates on this? Can't believe that this card isnt going to be on TV
I know, its madness!

I mean, couldn't a channel just come along and bid £100 to for the UK TV rights??? If no-one else is bidding on it then surely the lowest bid wins, no??? Unless theres some kind of 'ebay like reserve' on it, and all the UK channels are thinking its too high! Does anyone know EXACTLY how it works???

Re: Thurman vs Guerrero UK TV

Posted: 03 Mar 2015, 09:15
by Boxerbeetle
PokerRob wrote:
ChieftanDublin wrote:Any updates on this? Can't believe that this card isnt going to be on TV
I know, its madness!

I mean, couldn't a channel just come along and bid £100 to for the UK TV rights??? If no-one else is bidding on it then surely the lowest bid wins, no??? Unless theres some kind of 'ebay like reserve' on it, and all the UK channels are thinking its too high! Does anyone know EXACTLY how it works???
BN often bid very late for shows; Buncey has previously tweeted in the past that they're still trying to secure rights as late as the Thursday or Friday. I've not seen any rumblings of them bidding for Thurman vs Guerrero, but perhaps something's going on behind the scenes (not holding my breath obviously). As far as I'm aware, all the other channels do their bids well in advance, so BN is likely our only hope of seeing this one.

Re: Thurman vs Guerrero UK TV

Posted: 03 Mar 2015, 09:23
by PokerRob
Boxerbeetle wrote:
PokerRob wrote:
ChieftanDublin wrote:Any updates on this? Can't believe that this card isnt going to be on TV
I know, its madness!

I mean, couldn't a channel just come along and bid £100 to for the UK TV rights??? If no-one else is bidding on it then surely the lowest bid wins, no??? Unless theres some kind of 'ebay like reserve' on it, and all the UK channels are thinking its too high! Does anyone know EXACTLY how it works???
BN often bid very late for shows; Buncey has previously tweeted in the past that they're still trying to secure rights as late as the Thursday or Friday. I've not seen any rumblings of them bidding for Thurman vs Guerrero, but perhaps something's going on behind the scenes (not holding my breath obviously). As far as I'm aware, all the other channels do their bids well in advance, so BN is likely our only hope of seeing this one.
Interesting.... What I dont understand though, is if BoxN@tion bid late (sometimes the Thursday or Friday before the fight), then how do channels like Sky, Channel 5 and ITV advertise the show weeks in advance??? Surely the international promoters would be waiting for the bid from BoxN@tion to see if it beats the others???

I admit Im by no means an expert on TV rights, and Im sure its probably more complicated than this!

Re: Thurman vs Guerrero UK TV

Posted: 03 Mar 2015, 09:33
by Boxerbeetle
PokerRob wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote: BN often bid very late for shows; Buncey has previously tweeted in the past that they're still trying to secure rights as late as the Thursday or Friday. I've not seen any rumblings of them bidding for Thurman vs Guerrero, but perhaps something's going on behind the scenes (not holding my breath obviously). As far as I'm aware, all the other channels do their bids well in advance, so BN is likely our only hope of seeing this one.
Interesting.... What I dont understand though, is if BoxN@tion bid late (sometimes the Thursday or Friday before the fight), then how do channels like Sky, Channel 5 and ITV advertise the show weeks in advance??? Surely the international promoters would be waiting for the bid from BoxN@tion to see if it beats the others???

I admit Im by no means an expert on TV rights, and Im sure its probably more complicated than this!
If Sky (for example) want a US show, they'll secure the rights well in advance, which is why they can advertise it for weeks, although they'll probably pay a decent amount for it. As BN don't have Sky's resources, a BN bid would pretty much never beat a bid from Sky/ITV/whoever, so usually the only time BN get a fight is when no other channel has bid for it. Also, don't forget that BN never send their announce team over there like Sky would - all BN are buying is the rights to broadcast the US TV feed in the UK, John Rawlings & Barrie Jones will just be sat somewhere in the BN offices doing commentary over the top of it. That's why BN can sometimes secure rights very late, whereas Sky don't operate in the same fashion. I mean, who'd want to watch live boxing from the US without Adam Smith stood gurning at ringside?

Re: Thurman vs Guerrero UK TV

Posted: 03 Mar 2015, 10:14
by PokerRob
Boxerbeetle wrote:
PokerRob wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote: BN often bid very late for shows; Buncey has previously tweeted in the past that they're still trying to secure rights as late as the Thursday or Friday. I've not seen any rumblings of them bidding for Thurman vs Guerrero, but perhaps something's going on behind the scenes (not holding my breath obviously). As far as I'm aware, all the other channels do their bids well in advance, so BN is likely our only hope of seeing this one.
Interesting.... What I dont understand though, is if BoxN@tion bid late (sometimes the Thursday or Friday before the fight), then how do channels like Sky, Channel 5 and ITV advertise the show weeks in advance??? Surely the international promoters would be waiting for the bid from BoxN@tion to see if it beats the others???

I admit Im by no means an expert on TV rights, and Im sure its probably more complicated than this!
If Sky (for example) want a US show, they'll secure the rights well in advance, which is why they can advertise it for weeks, although they'll probably pay a decent amount for it. As BN don't have Sky's resources, a BN bid would pretty much never beat a bid from Sky/ITV/whoever, so usually the only time BN get a fight is when no other channel has bid for it. Also, don't forget that BN never send their announce team over there like Sky would - all BN are buying is the rights to broadcast the US TV feed in the UK, John Rawlings & Barrie Jones will just be sat somewhere in the BN offices doing commentary over the top of it. That's why BN can sometimes secure rights very late, whereas Sky don't operate in the same fashion. I mean, who'd want to watch live boxing from the US without Adam Smith stood gurning at ringside?
Thanks for the info...

I've noticed that BN secured the rights to the Andy Lee vs Peter Quillin fight weeks ago, so they must have paid a decent wack for it. Probably because BJS is set (or was set) to be on the card!

Also... who do BN, Sky, Channel 5, ITV, Eurosport, etc. buy the TV rights from??? The TV network (showtime/HBO etc.) or the promoter (GoldenBoy/Top Rank etc.)

Re: Thurman vs Guerrero UK TV

Posted: 03 Mar 2015, 13:28
by expe
PokerRob wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:
PokerRob wrote:
Interesting.... What I dont understand though, is if BoxN@tion bid late (sometimes the Thursday or Friday before the fight), then how do channels like Sky, Channel 5 and ITV advertise the show weeks in advance??? Surely the international promoters would be waiting for the bid from BoxN@tion to see if it beats the others???

I admit Im by no means an expert on TV rights, and Im sure its probably more complicated than this!
If Sky (for example) want a US show, they'll secure the rights well in advance, which is why they can advertise it for weeks, although they'll probably pay a decent amount for it. As BN don't have Sky's resources, a BN bid would pretty much never beat a bid from Sky/ITV/whoever, so usually the only time BN get a fight is when no other channel has bid for it. Also, don't forget that BN never send their announce team over there like Sky would - all BN are buying is the rights to broadcast the US TV feed in the UK, John Rawlings & Barrie Jones will just be sat somewhere in the BN offices doing commentary over the top of it. That's why BN can sometimes secure rights very late, whereas Sky don't operate in the same fashion. I mean, who'd want to watch live boxing from the US without Adam Smith stood gurning at ringside?
Thanks for the info...

I've noticed that BN secured the rights to the Andy Lee vs Peter Quillin fight weeks ago, so they must have paid a decent wack for it. Probably because BJS is set (or was set) to be on the card!

Also... who do BN, Sky, Channel 5, ITV, Eurosport, etc. buy the TV rights from??? The TV network (showtime/HBO etc.) or the promoter (GoldenBoy/Top Rank etc.)
They probably got Lee-Quillin cheap as part of the Saunders deal, without their approval the fight couldn't go ahead, at least not with the title on the line anyway.

TV rights are sold by the promoter, HBO/Showtime pay for exclusive US coverage.

Re: Thurman vs Guerrero UK TV

Posted: 03 Mar 2015, 14:27
by Rockytony67
It's on allegedly :DDD

Re: Thurman vs Guerrero UK TV

Posted: 03 Mar 2015, 16:15
by ChieftanDublin
Really? Great news if it is on allegedly

Re: Thurman vs Guerrero UK TV

Posted: 03 Mar 2015, 16:42
by ChieftanDublin
I see its on the tv listings now on Sky.......should be a great card

Re: Thurman vs Guerrero UK TV

Posted: 03 Mar 2015, 18:00
by chad
Rockytony67 wrote:It's on allegedly :DDD
That's great news. 1:30am start according to the TV listings.

Triple header on B0xnati0n this weekend with shows on Eurosport and SKY Sports to boot. Nice!

Re: Thurman vs Guerrero UK TV

Posted: 03 Mar 2015, 18:31
by digzee
Rockytony67 wrote:It's on allegedly :DDD
I love Bocksnation, if Bocksnation was a woman I'd certainly fcuk her.