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It seems as his prime his glory days are long forgotten! Seriously going back in time 93-2000 Oscar looked untouchable. I mean he looked

outright unbeatable. He had the looks, he could punch, throw combinations, had a good chin, great stamina, would get up off the canvas,

knew how to impress the judges stealing the championship rounds, the heart of a champion in every way that you can imagine a fighter

to be. A prime Oscar De La Hoya was a sensation and it was hard to bet against him because he would always find a way to win. Now

his prime is rarely talked about, like a dust cloud in the wind. I remember being all pumped up rooting for Tito but had the throughts

"Damn! Oscar is Whipping Tito's Ass! Tito Can't Seem To Land One Shot! Damn It's 9th Round Already & He Hasn't Touched Oscar Yet!"

People forget Oscar was a bad boy......

Yeah he was good.
He took out the old guard; chavez and whitaker.
But then proceeded to lose the big fights; trinidad (robbery), mosley1 (great fight), mosley 2 (mosley on drugs), and hopkins and mayweather.
So he was a top fighter with an exciting style but maybe his losses relegate him to a more humble position in history.

Oscar could of gone down the Floyd route of picking fights he knew he can win but he chose to fight everyone ,golovkin is considered to big for Floyd yet Oscar fought the much bigger Hopkins how many super feather/ 130 champs fight one of the greatest middleweights and a good light heavy champ .

I don't undervalue him. I've always said that he's more underrated now due to how he ended his career, his rep as a soft guy, and the fact that he lost a lot of his big fights. That doesn't take away the fact that he fought just about everyone and took on challenges(Hopkins/Whitaker/Quartey) that most would've ducked

stevedoc wrote:Oscar could of gone down the Floyd route of picking fights he knew he can win but he chose to fight everyone ,golovkin is considered to big for Floyd yet Oscar fought the much bigger Hopkins how many super feather/ 130 champs fight one of the greatest middleweights and a good light heavy champ .

So he knew he could win vs JLC? He knew he could win vs Oscar, Mosley, Alvarez and Cotto??

Wow, the things so called "boxing fans" say these days

Oscar was really good in his prime, he was beating Tito very easily I thought but then he started to run and I thought he won the 2nd fight vs Shane and after that it seemed he lost all of his biggest fights (Hopkins, Floyd, Manny).

Too bad he didn't have the dedication (I think he made too much money and it softened him) because he should've still been around now or at least up until the year before last.

It wasn't until the Molina and Ruelas fights that I considered De La Hoya to be one of the elite of the fighters in boxing.
For 4 years after he won steady against an acceptable but beatable group of opponents, maybe apart from Pernell Whitaker and Miguel Angel Gonzalez most of the fights seemed like ones Oscar could win.
I was starting to get a bit frustrated with him because I felt he could compete against the dangerous fighters, he then took the Ike Quartey fight, although the bout was close and some may even think Quartey did enough Oscar got the decision.
At that point Oscar was a really big name and that lead to Trinidad in a mega fight which turned out to be dull considering the expectations, Trinidad gets the nod but for me De La Hoya won with room to spare.
The loss to Mosley wasn't earthshattering but a legitimate defeat all the same, Oscar had played out the last year and a half in entertaining fashion while fighting 3 high A list boxers in Quartey, Trinidad and Mosley and it bought him some serious respect in my eyes.
Stoppage wins against Gatti and Vargas were squeezed in until the eventual Mosley rematch which he lost, that was followed by the Felix Sturm fight one of which I think Oscar was fortunate to win, at the time I thought Felix Sturm won.
De La Hoya was taking an enormous risk and greatly overreaching fighting Bernard Hopkins, physically Hopkins looked way bigger and the difference in power between them was significant, the risk didn't pay off and Oscar suffered his first stoppage loss.
He takes a year and a half off then comes back to fight Mayorga who he stopped in 6 rounds, I could tell Oscar De La Hoya wasn't the same fighter physically but he was still a decent technician and solid hitter.
Floyd Mayweather beats him as expected and the Pacquiao knockout loss finishes him off, I felt even though Pacquiao had it in him to beat De La Hoya there was a side of me which was slightly surprised it was by stoppage.
There's many names that could be included in his career but those were the more high profile ones for me, Oscar fought at the highest level against some of the best opponents out there and proved he could stand with them and more.
Oscar De La Hoya was a very good boxer and I didn't undervalue him at all during his prime.

Evander wrote:It wasn't until the Molina and Ruelas fights that I considered De La Hoya to be one of the elite of the fighters in boxing.
For 4 years after he won steady against an acceptable but beatable group of opponents, maybe apart from Pernell Whitaker and Miguel Angel Gonzalez most of the fights seemed like ones Oscar could win.
I was starting to get a bit frustrated with him because I felt he could compete against the dangerous fighters, he then took the Ike Quartey fight, although the bout was close and some may even think Quartey did enough Oscar got the decision.
At that point Oscar was a really big name and that lead to Trinidad in a mega fight which turned out to be dull considering the expectations, Trinidad gets the nod but for me De La Hoya won with room to spare.
The loss to Mosley wasn't earthshattering but a legitimate defeat all the same, Oscar had played out the last year and a half in entertaining fashion while fighting 3 high A list boxers in Quartey, Trinidad and Mosley and it bought him some serious respect in my eyes.
Stoppage wins against Gatti and Vargas were squeezed in until the eventual Mosley rematch which he lost, that was followed by the Felix Sturm fight one of which I think Oscar was fortunate to win, at the time I thought Felix Sturm won.
De La Hoya was taking an enormous risk and greatly overreaching fighting Bernard Hopkins, physically Hopkins looked way bigger and the difference in power between them was significant, the risk didn't pay off and Oscar suffered his first stoppage loss.
He takes a year and a half off then comes back to fight Mayorga who he stopped in 6 rounds, I could tell Oscar De La Hoya wasn't the same fighter physically but he was still a decent technician and solid hitter.
Floyd Mayweather beats him as expected and the Pacquiao knockout loss finishes him off, I felt even though Pacquiao had it in him to beat De La Hoya there was a side of me which was slightly surprised it was by stoppage.
There's many names that could be included in his career but those were the more high profile ones for me, Oscar fought at the highest level against some of the best opponents out there and proved he could stand with them and more.
Oscar De La Hoya was a very good boxer and I didn't undervalue him at all during his prime.

Fighting at a weight he hadn't been at in 7 plus years, I wasn't surprised in the least by the stoppage, all the cats had been let out of the bag prior to the fight anyway; Roach had reported they saw Oscar on the track when they were training and he couldn't even round one lap, he also stated how drained Oscar was and not to mention how tiny Valero was busting Oscar up so badly in sparring and blackening both of DLH's eyes and beating him up so badly that they suspended Valero from being a sparring partner.

Only the uninformed were surprised and the casual boxing fan (most Pacquiao fans) thought that it was some giant miracle that Manny stopped Oscar.

He was a little unlucky in the Trinidad and Mayweather fights. I don't think he lost either

lillywhite14 wrote:He was a little unlucky in the Trinidad and Mayweather fights. I don't think he lost either

I honestly do know how anyone could of thought that DeLaHoya beat Mayweather.
But we all have an opinion.

KBB wrote:

Evander wrote:It wasn't until the Molina and Ruelas fights that I considered De La Hoya to be one of the elite of the fighters in boxing.
For 4 years after he won steady against an acceptable but beatable group of opponents, maybe apart from Pernell Whitaker and Miguel Angel Gonzalez most of the fights seemed like ones Oscar could win.
I was starting to get a bit frustrated with him because I felt he could compete against the dangerous fighters, he then took the Ike Quartey fight, although the bout was close and some may even think Quartey did enough Oscar got the decision.
At that point Oscar was a really big name and that lead to Trinidad in a mega fight which turned out to be dull considering the expectations, Trinidad gets the nod but for me De La Hoya won with room to spare.
The loss to Mosley wasn't earthshattering but a legitimate defeat all the same, Oscar had played out the last year and a half in entertaining fashion while fighting 3 high A list boxers in Quartey, Trinidad and Mosley and it bought him some serious respect in my eyes.
Stoppage wins against Gatti and Vargas were squeezed in until the eventual Mosley rematch which he lost, that was followed by the Felix Sturm fight one of which I think Oscar was fortunate to win, at the time I thought Felix Sturm won.
De La Hoya was taking an enormous risk and greatly overreaching fighting Bernard Hopkins, physically Hopkins looked way bigger and the difference in power between them was significant, the risk didn't pay off and Oscar suffered his first stoppage loss.
He takes a year and a half off then comes back to fight Mayorga who he stopped in 6 rounds, I could tell Oscar De La Hoya wasn't the same fighter physically but he was still a decent technician and solid hitter.
Floyd Mayweather beats him as expected and the Pacquiao knockout loss finishes him off, I felt even though Pacquiao had it in him to beat De La Hoya there was a side of me which was slightly surprised it was by stoppage.
There's many names that could be included in his career but those were the more high profile ones for me, Oscar fought at the highest level against some of the best opponents out there and proved he could stand with them and more.
Oscar De La Hoya was a very good boxer and I didn't undervalue him at all during his prime.

Fighting at a weight he hadn't been at in 7 plus years, I wasn't surprised in the least by the stoppage, all the cats had been let out of the bag prior to the fight anyway; Roach had reported they saw Oscar on the track when they were training and he couldn't even round one lap, he also stated how drained Oscar was and not to mention how tiny Valero was busting Oscar up so badly in sparring and blackening both of DLH's eyes and beating him up so badly that they suspended Valero from being a sparring partner.

Only the uninformed were surprised and the casual boxing fan (most Pacquiao fans) thought that it was some giant miracle that Manny stopped Oscar.

It's difficult to know what is going on between fights, I wasn't aware that Oscar was having serious issues leading up to the Pacquiao contest.
The grapevine is full of people saying this and that and its hard to say with any kind of certainty what we are being told is precisely accurate unless you see it with your own eyes.
I'm not denying what you say is true I'm sure it is but from an outside perspective it can be challenging believing every rumour I hear.
I agree moving back down might not have been the smartest move but neither was moving up to fight Hopkins.
Either way it does show that Oscar De La Hoya challenged himself and tried to push the bar higher and was ambitious, he could have played it safer but that's the type of boxer he was.
His pedigree suggested he was capable of sustaining a fairly heavy attack due to his chin and boxing abilities, considering some of the decent more powerful fighters like Quartey, Trinidad, Mosley, Vargas, Hopkins and even Mayorga to a point there was enough for me to believe he might be capable of making it the distance.

Evander wrote:It wasn't until the Molina and Ruelas fights that I considered De La Hoya to be one of the elite of the fighters in boxing.
For 4 years after he won steady against an acceptable but beatable group of opponents, maybe apart from Pernell Whitaker and Miguel Angel Gonzalez most of the fights seemed like ones Oscar could win.
I was starting to get a bit frustrated with him because I felt he could compete against the dangerous fighters, he then took the Ike Quartey fight, although the bout was close and some may even think Quartey did enough Oscar got the decision.
At that point Oscar was a really big name and that lead to Trinidad in a mega fight which turned out to be dull considering the expectations, Trinidad gets the nod but for me De La Hoya won with room to spare.
The loss to Mosley wasn't earthshattering but a legitimate defeat all the same, Oscar had played out the last year and a half in entertaining fashion while fighting 3 high A list boxers in Quartey, Trinidad and Mosley and it bought him some serious respect in my eyes.
Stoppage wins against Gatti and Vargas were squeezed in until the eventual Mosley rematch which he lost, that was followed by the Felix Sturm fight one of which I think Oscar was fortunate to win, at the time I thought Felix Sturm won.
De La Hoya was taking an enormous risk and greatly overreaching fighting Bernard Hopkins, physically Hopkins looked way bigger and the difference in power between them was significant, the risk didn't pay off and Oscar suffered his first stoppage loss.
He takes a year and a half off then comes back to fight Mayorga who he stopped in 6 rounds, I could tell Oscar De La Hoya wasn't the same fighter physically but he was still a decent technician and solid hitter.
Floyd Mayweather beats him as expected and the Pacquiao knockout loss finishes him off, I felt even though Pacquiao had it in him to beat De La Hoya there was a side of me which was slightly surprised it was by stoppage.
There's many names that could be included in his career but those were the more high profile ones for me, Oscar fought at the highest level against some of the best opponents out there and proved he could stand with them and more.
Oscar De La Hoya was a very good boxer and I didn't undervalue him at all during his prime.

Great rundown.

Evander wrote:It's difficult to know what is going on between fights, I wasn't aware that Oscar was having serious issues leading up to the Pacquiao contest.
The grapevine is full of people saying this and that and its hard to say with any kind of certainty what we are being told is precisely accurate unless you see it with your own eyes.
I'm not denying what you say is true I'm sure it is but from an outside perspective it can be challenging believing every rumour I hear.
I agree moving back down might not have been the smartest move but neither was moving up to fight Hopkins.
Either way it does show that Oscar De La Hoya challenged himself and tried to push the bar higher and was ambitious, he could have played it safer but that's the type of boxer he was.
His pedigree suggested he was capable of sustaining a fairly heavy attack due to his chin and boxing abilities, considering some of the decent more powerful fighters like Quartey, Trinidad, Mosley, Vargas, Hopkins and even Mayorga to a point there was enough for me to believe he might be capable of making it the distance.

It's not difficult to know what was going on and I wasn't referencing just any person, I used Valerio's own testimony, Freddie's own testimony here to show you that this was very public knowledge but for whatever reason fans of Manny want to blow this victory over Oscar as though he beat a healthy and primed DLH of which he only beat a walking skeleton.

http://www.BS.com/valero-claim ... amp--17324

By Mark Vester

Some very surprising twists in Las Vegas. Former super featherweight champion and current lightweight contender, Edwin Valero (24-0, 24KOs), claims that he busted up Oscar De La Hoya during their sparring session in Big Bear, California. Valero was brought in as a sparring partner to help De La Hoya prepare for Manny Pacquiao. Valero almost lashed out at De La Hoya while speaking to the Philippine Daily Inquirer, claiming that Oscar lied about who gave him a black eye, lied about his level of training and even predicted a knockout win for Pacquiao.

Valero says De La Hoya is the not the hard worker he makes himself out to be. He says that Oscar doesn't like to train. He shot down De La Hoya's story of Victor Ortiz handing him a black eye during a sparring session, and then said that he busted up De La Hoya so bad - it resulted in his removal from the Big Bear training camp.

“Oscar doesn’t like to workout. Oscar doesn’t like to run. Pacquiao is going to knock Oscar out. I was the one who gave Oscar the black eye. Ask him who did it. I got kicked out of Big Bear because of that. I only sparred with Oscar for eight rounds because after those eight rounds, Oscar didn’t want to spar with me anymore. I hurt Oscar a lot,” Valero said.


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/3613 ... s-pacquiao

The topics range from Roach saying, they chose to fight De La Hoya because he was washed up and he knew De La Hoya would literally have to kill himself to make 147 pounds and Pacquiao would destroy him. He mentions how Oscar's talent faded after he lost to Floyd Mayweather.

I wasn't doubting that these reports existed or that the credibility of it is in question, I just feel that there are many reports from multiple sources leading into big fights saying a wide variety of things.
In some cases there's probably false misleading or completely accurate accounts and they can be for any number of reasons, people can be misquoted or the version of the events disputed by other sources or even just planted stories put there to hype an event.
In this case it does sound on the up and up and I just didn't see it.

KBB wrote:

Evander wrote:It's difficult to know what is going on between fights, I wasn't aware that Oscar was having serious issues leading up to the Pacquiao contest.
The grapevine is full of people saying this and that and its hard to say with any kind of certainty what we are being told is precisely accurate unless you see it with your own eyes.
I'm not denying what you say is true I'm sure it is but from an outside perspective it can be challenging believing every rumour I hear.
I agree moving back down might not have been the smartest move but neither was moving up to fight Hopkins.
Either way it does show that Oscar De La Hoya challenged himself and tried to push the bar higher and was ambitious, he could have played it safer but that's the type of boxer he was.
His pedigree suggested he was capable of sustaining a fairly heavy attack due to his chin and boxing abilities, considering some of the decent more powerful fighters like Quartey, Trinidad, Mosley, Vargas, Hopkins and even Mayorga to a point there was enough for me to believe he might be capable of making it the distance.

It's not difficult to know what was going on and I wasn't referencing just any person, I used Valerio's own testimony, Freddie's own testimony here to show you that this was very public knowledge but for whatever reason fans of Manny want to blow this victory over Oscar as though he beat a healthy and primed DLH of which he only beat a walking skeleton.

http://www.BS.com/valero-claim ... amp--17324

By Mark Vester

Some very surprising twists in Las Vegas. Former super featherweight champion and current lightweight contender, Edwin Valero (24-0, 24KOs), claims that he busted up Oscar De La Hoya during their sparring session in Big Bear, California. Valero was brought in as a sparring partner to help De La Hoya prepare for Manny Pacquiao. Valero almost lashed out at De La Hoya while speaking to the Philippine Daily Inquirer, claiming that Oscar lied about who gave him a black eye, lied about his level of training and even predicted a knockout win for Pacquiao.

Valero says De La Hoya is the not the hard worker he makes himself out to be. He says that Oscar doesn't like to train. He shot down De La Hoya's story of Victor Ortiz handing him a black eye during a sparring session, and then said that he busted up De La Hoya so bad - it resulted in his removal from the Big Bear training camp.

“Oscar doesn’t like to workout. Oscar doesn’t like to run. Pacquiao is going to knock Oscar out. I was the one who gave Oscar the black eye. Ask him who did it. I got kicked out of Big Bear because of that. I only sparred with Oscar for eight rounds because after those eight rounds, Oscar didn’t want to spar with me anymore. I hurt Oscar a lot,” Valero said.


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/3613 ... s-pacquiao

The topics range from Roach saying, they chose to fight De La Hoya because he was washed up and he knew De La Hoya would literally have to kill himself to make 147 pounds and Pacquiao would destroy him. He mentions how Oscar's talent faded after he lost to Floyd Mayweather.

Roach also states in the same conversation that this is the reason DLH couldn't pull the trigger against Floyd negating that victory also

IKSRTFO wrote:

KBB wrote:

Evander wrote:It's difficult to know what is going on between fights, I wasn't aware that Oscar was having serious issues leading up to the Pacquiao contest.
The grapevine is full of people saying this and that and its hard to say with any kind of certainty what we are being told is precisely accurate unless you see it with your own eyes.
I'm not denying what you say is true I'm sure it is but from an outside perspective it can be challenging believing every rumour I hear.
I agree moving back down might not have been the smartest move but neither was moving up to fight Hopkins.
Either way it does show that Oscar De La Hoya challenged himself and tried to push the bar higher and was ambitious, he could have played it safer but that's the type of boxer he was.
His pedigree suggested he was capable of sustaining a fairly heavy attack due to his chin and boxing abilities, considering some of the decent more powerful fighters like Quartey, Trinidad, Mosley, Vargas, Hopkins and even Mayorga to a point there was enough for me to believe he might be capable of making it the distance.

It's not difficult to know what was going on and I wasn't referencing just any person, I used Valerio's own testimony, Freddie's own testimony here to show you that this was very public knowledge but for whatever reason fans of Manny want to blow this victory over Oscar as though he beat a healthy and primed DLH of which he only beat a walking skeleton.

http://www.BS.com/valero-claim ... amp--17324

By Mark Vester

Some very surprising twists in Las Vegas. Former super featherweight champion and current lightweight contender, Edwin Valero (24-0, 24KOs), claims that he busted up Oscar De La Hoya during their sparring session in Big Bear, California. Valero was brought in as a sparring partner to help De La Hoya prepare for Manny Pacquiao. Valero almost lashed out at De La Hoya while speaking to the Philippine Daily Inquirer, claiming that Oscar lied about who gave him a black eye, lied about his level of training and even predicted a knockout win for Pacquiao.

Valero says De La Hoya is the not the hard worker he makes himself out to be. He says that Oscar doesn't like to train. He shot down De La Hoya's story of Victor Ortiz handing him a black eye during a sparring session, and then said that he busted up De La Hoya so bad - it resulted in his removal from the Big Bear training camp.

“Oscar doesn’t like to workout. Oscar doesn’t like to run. Pacquiao is going to knock Oscar out. I was the one who gave Oscar the black eye. Ask him who did it. I got kicked out of Big Bear because of that. I only sparred with Oscar for eight rounds because after those eight rounds, Oscar didn’t want to spar with me anymore. I hurt Oscar a lot,” Valero said.


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/3613 ... s-pacquiao

The topics range from Roach saying, they chose to fight De La Hoya because he was washed up and he knew De La Hoya would literally have to kill himself to make 147 pounds and Pacquiao would destroy him. He mentions how Oscar's talent faded after he lost to Floyd Mayweather.

Roach also states in the same conversation that this is the reason DLH couldn't pull the trigger against Floyd negating that victory also

Not surprising a sack like yourself would bring up anything like that. Don't choke.

He was the golden boy. Olympian. And lost marginal bouts with Felix, Sugar Shane 2x, and Floyd. I guess the hype didnt live up to results....but he was great in his time. One last thing is how upright and robotic he looked. Yet he still did good with somewhat skills that werent as sharp naturally as others

he beat the best of the best in his prime and there
is no shame in any of his losses and he is the only
split decision in floyd's record.

Badhusker wrote: Not surprising a sack like yourself would bring up anything like that. Don't choke.

Just bringing the facts. You talk about one side...but failed to mention the other side in the same conversation.

IKSRTFO wrote:Roach also states in the same conversation that this is the reason DLH couldn't pull the trigger against Floyd negating that victory also

Please provide a link to that!!

Like I said you never have anything good to say at all, just a bunch of hate but none of that excuses the facts that Roach clearly stated that they intentionally drained Oscar and that they knew Manny would KO him because a small LW in Valero had already beat the brakes off of him.

In other words, they CHERRYPICKED!!

De La Hoya's reminds me of Evander Holyfield in some ways.

They were both the de-facto guys in their eras that everyone needed to fight to get a big payday & they pretty much fought all the big opposition of their eras & both were often used as yardsticks.

KBB wrote:

IKSRTFO wrote:Roach also states in the same conversation that this is the reason DLH couldn't pull the trigger against Floyd negating that victory also

Please provide a link to that!!

Like I said you never have anything good to say at all, just a bunch of hate but none of that excuses the facts that Roach clearly stated that they intentionally drained Oscar and that they knew Manny would KO him because a small LW in Valero had already beat the brakes off of him.

In other words, they CHERRYPICKED!!

http://www.BS.com/de-la-hoyas- ... lem--17161

His shoulder was injured since the Mayorga fight. He was being beaten up by Ortiz before the Mayweather bout.

tiny_acres wrote:

lillywhite14 wrote:He was a little unlucky in the Trinidad and Mayweather fights. I don't think he lost either

I honestly do know how anyone could of thought that DeLaHoya beat Mayweather.
But we all have an opinion.

I feel the exact same. I'm not sure how anyone could have DeLaHoya winning.

Impractical Poster wrote:

Evander wrote:It wasn't until the Molina and Ruelas fights that I considered De La Hoya to be one of the elite of the fighters in boxing.
For 4 years after he won steady against an acceptable but beatable group of opponents, maybe apart from Pernell Whitaker and Miguel Angel Gonzalez most of the fights seemed like ones Oscar could win.
I was starting to get a bit frustrated with him because I felt he could compete against the dangerous fighters, he then took the Ike Quartey fight, although the bout was close and some may even think Quartey did enough Oscar got the decision.
At that point Oscar was a really big name and that lead to Trinidad in a mega fight which turned out to be dull considering the expectations, Trinidad gets the nod but for me De La Hoya won with room to spare.
The loss to Mosley wasn't earthshattering but a legitimate defeat all the same, Oscar had played out the last year and a half in entertaining fashion while fighting 3 high A list boxers in Quartey, Trinidad and Mosley and it bought him some serious respect in my eyes.
Stoppage wins against Gatti and Vargas were squeezed in until the eventual Mosley rematch which he lost, that was followed by the Felix Sturm fight one of which I think Oscar was fortunate to win, at the time I thought Felix Sturm won.
De La Hoya was taking an enormous risk and greatly overreaching fighting Bernard Hopkins, physically Hopkins looked way bigger and the difference in power between them was significant, the risk didn't pay off and Oscar suffered his first stoppage loss.
He takes a year and a half off then comes back to fight Mayorga who he stopped in 6 rounds, I could tell Oscar De La Hoya wasn't the same fighter physically but he was still a decent technician and solid hitter.
Floyd Mayweather beats him as expected and the Pacquiao knockout loss finishes him off, I felt even though Pacquiao had it in him to beat De La Hoya there was a side of me which was slightly surprised it was by stoppage.
There's many names that could be included in his career but those were the more high profile ones for me, Oscar fought at the highest level against some of the best opponents out there and proved he could stand with them and more.
Oscar De La Hoya was a very good boxer and I didn't undervalue him at all during his prime.

Great rundown.

Agreed. That was a good read.

bnovelist wrote:It seems as his prime his glory days are long forgotten! Seriously going back in time 93-2000 Oscar looked untouchable. I mean he looked

outright unbeatable. He had the looks, he could punch, throw combinations, had a good chin, great stamina, would get up off the canvas,

knew how to impress the judges stealing the championship rounds, the heart of a champion in every way that you can imagine a fighter

to be. A prime Oscar De La Hoya was a sensation and it was hard to bet against him because he would always find a way to win. Now

his prime is rarely talked about, like a dust cloud in the wind. I remember being all pumped up rooting for Tito but had the throughts

"Damn! Oscar is Whipping Tito's Ass! Tito Can't Seem To Land One Shot! Damn It's 9th Round Already & He Hasn't Touched Oscar Yet!"

People forget Oscar was a bad boy......

He's under rated because of the first thing you noted about him; his looks. Even you as a fan make his looks the first notable thing about him, how much easier it is for those who aren't fans to pour scorn on his successes and paint him as just a pretty boy.

palooka wrote:

bnovelist wrote:It seems as his prime his glory days are long forgotten! Seriously going back in time 93-2000 Oscar looked untouchable. I mean he looked

outright unbeatable. He had the looks, he could punch, throw combinations, had a good chin, great stamina, would get up off the canvas,

knew how to impress the judges stealing the championship rounds, the heart of a champion in every way that you can imagine a fighter

to be. A prime Oscar De La Hoya was a sensation and it was hard to bet against him because he would always find a way to win. Now

his prime is rarely talked about, like a dust cloud in the wind. I remember being all pumped up rooting for Tito but had the throughts

"Damn! Oscar is Whipping Tito's Ass! Tito Can't Seem To Land One Shot! Damn It's 9th Round Already & He Hasn't Touched Oscar Yet!"

People forget Oscar was a bad boy......

He's under rated because of the first thing you noted about him; his looks. Even you as a fan make his looks the first notable thing about him, how much easier it is for those who aren't fans to pour scorn on his successes and paint him as just a pretty boy.

Because of his looks, it's overlooked that he has put some beatdowns on some people.