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Will the Canadian officials be fair to Kovalev?

Posted: 05 Mar 2015, 14:26
by Freedom2013
There is unfair home officiating in ALL countries, including my own.

I remember Canadian refs giving early stoppages to many home fighters over the years, and helping others survive the distance (Bute-Andrade I for example).

The headbutt that Pascal caught Dawson with was obviously deliberate, but the referee instead of DQing Pascal, called it "accidental".

I've attended fights that have had ridiculously biased scorecards from canadian judges.

I wonder if Kovalev will receive fair officiating against the Canadian boxer in Montreal?

Re: Will the Canadian officials be fair to Kovalev?

Posted: 05 Mar 2015, 15:11
by koolkc107
The officials won't have anything to do with what happens.

Re: Will the Canadian officials be fair to Kovalev?

Posted: 05 Mar 2015, 16:37
by diddy
Ref, judges, none of that will matter when Pascal is unconscious on the canvas. He's not savvy enough like Hopkins to keep Kovalev at bay for 12 rounds. He also will actually try to throw punches, unlike Bernard. The second Hopkins opened up, in Rd 12, he got badly hurt and was seconds from being stopped. So either Pascal comes to win and gets knocked out or shells up and loses rounds that wont be difficult to score.

Re: Will the Canadian officials be fair to Kovalev?

Posted: 05 Mar 2015, 16:40
by ikorolev
Even if Kovalev doesn't stop Pascal, his point advantage should be too wide to mess with.

Re: Will the Canadian officials be fair to Kovalev?

Posted: 05 Mar 2015, 17:02
by Fatsam
Seriously pascals family could judge this fight and the outcome wont change

Re: Will the Canadian officials be fair to Kovalev?

Posted: 05 Mar 2015, 17:48
by ReggieDiggs
Jean probably hopes not cuz he needs all the help he can get.

Re: Will the Canadian officials be fair to Kovalev?

Posted: 05 Mar 2015, 17:56
by KBB
Freedom2013 wrote:There is unfair home officiating in ALL countries, including my own.

I remember Canadian refs giving early stoppages to many home fighters over the years, and helping others survive the distance (Bute-Andrade I for example).

The headbutt that Pascal caught Dawson with was obviously deliberate, but the referee instead of DQing Pascal, called it "accidental".

I've attended fights that have had ridiculously biased scorecards from canadian judges.

I wonder if Kovalev will receive fair officiating against the Canadian boxer in Montreal?

Why is it that every time there is a fight between a fighter who is black and popular against a fighter that happens to be white you start with this same BS about "Will The Ref Be Fair"??

I know you cited the Pascal vs Dawson fight as a reference but would you be stating this if it was Kovalev vs GGG in America?

Personally I don't think so and your bigotry/hatred for those with dark skin just shows through. I think racists behavior like this shouldn't be allowed on the forum.

Re: Will the Canadian officials be fair to Kovalev?

Posted: 05 Mar 2015, 17:59
by littlepug
Wow no one seems to give Pascal a chance and he's a pretty sturdy customer, its been a while since we've had a champ on the scene with the kind of rep that kovalev and golovkin have built up, if they can keep it up things could get interesting :box:

Re: Will the Canadian officials be fair to Kovalev?

Posted: 05 Mar 2015, 18:02
by diddy
Pascal has never fought someone like Kovalev.

Re: Will the Canadian officials be fair to Kovalev?

Posted: 05 Mar 2015, 18:05
by BAD INTENTIONS
Every time a European boxer fights somewhere else, the racist idiot FREEDOM 2013, asks this same question.

Re: Will the Canadian officials be fair to Kovalev?

Posted: 05 Mar 2015, 18:13
by diddy
He really is a euro-idiot. Dude just dripping with hate toward anything american or black.

Re: Will the Canadian officials be fair to Kovalev?

Posted: 05 Mar 2015, 18:15
by KBB
diddy wrote:Pascal has never fought someone like Kovalev.
Kovalev has never fought anyone like Pascal, Jean is very unorthodoxed and throws shots from weird angles and off-rhythm timing too.

Re: Will the Canadian officials be fair to Kovalev?

Posted: 05 Mar 2015, 18:22
by diddy
KBB wrote:
diddy wrote:Pascal has never fought someone like Kovalev.
Kovalev has never fought anyone like Pascal, Jean is very unorthodoxed and throws shots from weird angles and off-rhythm timing too.
Hopkins is a much more difficult puzzle than Pascal. Be serious. You must be Canadian. Kovalev figured how to dominate and dismantle Hopkins easier and better than anyone he has faced in his entire career. You cant seriously believe Jean Pascal will be a tougher nut to crack. Pascal couldnt even beat Hopkins in 2 fights, let alone dominate him.

Re: Will the Canadian officials be fair to Kovalev?

Posted: 05 Mar 2015, 18:25
by KBB
diddy wrote:
KBB wrote:
diddy wrote:Pascal has never fought someone like Kovalev.
Kovalev has never fought anyone like Pascal, Jean is very unorthodoxed and throws shots from weird angles and off-rhythm timing too.
Hopkins is a much more difficult puzzle than Pascal. Be serious. You must be Canadian.
Where did I state that Pascal was more difficult than Hopkins??

You have a serious problem with interpretation if that's what you thought I was stating, and for the record "I'm 100% American".

Re: Will the Canadian officials be fair to Kovalev?

Posted: 05 Mar 2015, 18:31
by diddy
You said he's never fought anyone like Pascal when he's actually fought a better and even trickier guy.

Re: Will the Canadian officials be fair to Kovalev?

Posted: 05 Mar 2015, 18:39
by Freedom2013
diddy wrote:Dude just dripping with hate toward anything american or black.
Dawson, who is was saying wasn't treated fairly in Montreal, is African-American.

Read my opening post more carefully before throwing out such nasty accusations.
KBB wrote:You have a serious problem with interpretation if that's what you thought I was stating, and for the record "I'm 100% American".
We all know why you are supporting Pascal.

Re: Will the Canadian officials be fair to Kovalev?

Posted: 05 Mar 2015, 19:11
by klitoris
Freedom2013 wrote:There is unfair home officiating in ALL countries, including my own.

I remember Canadian refs giving early stoppages to many home fighters over the years, and helping others survive the distance (Bute-Andrade I for example).

The headbutt that Pascal caught Dawson with was obviously deliberate, but the referee instead of DQing Pascal, called it "accidental".

I've attended fights that have had ridiculously biased scorecards from canadian judges.

I wonder if Kovalev will receive fair officiating against the Canadian boxer in Montreal?
Referee: Luis Pabon (Puerto Rico)
Judges: Cesar Ramos (Puerto Rico), Richard James Davies (United Kingdom), Zoltan Enyedi (Hungary)

Canadian refs? Try again bro.

Re: Will the Canadian officials be fair to Kovalev?

Posted: 05 Mar 2015, 19:27
by Freedom2013
klitoris wrote:Referee: Luis Pabon (Puerto Rico)
Judges: Cesar Ramos (Puerto Rico), Richard James Davies (United Kingdom), Zoltan Enyedi (Hungary)

Canadian refs? Try again bro.
Those are the officials? If so, good news.

Although Davies isn't a good judge, and Pabon isn't one of the more capable refs.

Re: Will the Canadian officials be fair to Kovalev?

Posted: 06 Mar 2015, 12:52
by KBB
Freedom2013 wrote:
diddy wrote:Dude just dripping with hate toward anything american or black.
Dawson, who is was saying wasn't treated fairly in Montreal, is African-American.

Read my opening post more carefully before throwing out such nasty accusations.
KBB wrote:You have a serious problem with interpretation if that's what you thought I was stating, and for the record "I'm 100% American".
We all know why you are supporting Pascal.
You racists d*ck, I'm going with Kovalev. You see I, unlike you, happen to be a true boxing fan and I don't base my picks on race (like you). Everyone here has seen through your bigoted BS, you post this same crap anytime there is a fight between someone who has white skin and someone with black skin.

Your true colors has been spotted long ago and filth like you need to purged from this forum.

Re: Will the Canadian officials be fair to Kovalev?

Posted: 06 Mar 2015, 13:04
by KBB
HEY DIDDY READ WHAT KOV HAD TO SAY ABOUT PASCAL, SEEMS LIKE THE SAME THING I STATED!!

On March 14 Sergey "Krusher" Kovalev (26-0-1, 23 KOs) will compete in his first title defense as Unified WBO, WBA and IBF Light Heavyweight World Champion against former lineal light heavyweight champion Jean Pascal (29-2-1, 17 KOs) in Montreal, Quebec, Canada. Kovalev completed the first half of his preparations in Big Bear Lake, CA then moved to Miami, FL where he is finishing training camp with his trainer, John David Jackson.

Coming off of his big win against Bernard Hopkins on November 8, some expected Kovalev to take on an easier opponent than Jean Pascal, a former champion who has never been knocked down in his pro career. Sergey, however, does not look for easy fights. He prefers a challenge. When asked what makes Pascal a dangerous opponent, Sergey said, "His power and crazy style of boxing." Sergey is also excited to return to Quebec, where he knocked out Ismayl Sillakh in his first WBO Light Heavyweight World Championship defense in 2013. He said, "I'm very glad to fight in Canada again because I like Canadian fans and country too. Canada remember me of Russian winter weather."

This fight against Pascal will be a different test for Kovalev than Hopkins. According to Jackson, "Pascal is more of a herky-jerky type of fighter. Bernard was smoother in his approach. He was also more calculating in his risk. Pascal takes his chances because he punches without really looking at his target. He presents a different problem in the ring but it really isn't a big problem as long as Sergey sticks to the task at hand. He needs to box him and set traps for Pascal to get caught in. Pascal throws punches with his head down and he is not even looking at his opponent. He is a little more surprising than Bernard; he can throw punches from any angle in hopes of landing that shot to hurt you."

In the first real test of his championship reign, Krusher pulled off a stellar unanimous decision victory over Bernard "The Alien" Hopkins in Atlantic City in November of 2014 and added the WBA and IBF Light Heavyweight World Championship belts to his collection. Although Kovalev dethroned a ring legend, he was very humble about the victory. He said, "My life didn't change after the Hopkins fight. I just got responsible for defending more titles now!" Sergey refuses to look back, adding, "I already forgot about Hopkins. I have to focus on this fight. It's already past. Now I need to go forward."

Going forward means providing for his growing family. Shortly before the fight with Hopkins, Sergey's wife, Natalia, gave birth to their first child, Aleksandr. Sergey was not present at the birth of his son and did not meet him until he returned home after the Hopkins fight. For this training camp, he is separated from his young child again but, according to John David Jackson's assistant trainer, Derik Santos, "Sergey always says this is a sacrifice, but it is for his family."

Jackson added, "Now that Sergey is a father I think it is harder for him to be away from his family for training camp. He is a brand new father, this is his first child, and that weighs on him a little bit. He is a professional, however, and he is able to separate his feelings from the task at hand. He knows he needs to concentrate on camp. It may be tough on him but he doesn't let it show. He just goes about his business of getting ready for this fight."

Now that he is the unified champion, there are more demands on his time and additional scrutiny, but the Krusher is not fazed. According to John, "Slowly but surely it is beginning to sink in that he is a super star fighter. He is still humble to a degree where a lot of that stuff doesn't bother him. He is not an attention whore and he doesn't need all that attention on him like a lot of other fighters would."

Re: Will the Canadian officials be fair to Kovalev?

Posted: 06 Mar 2015, 13:18
by ikorolev
KBB wrote: This fight against Pascal will be a different test for Kovalev than Hopkins. According to Jackson, "Pascal is more of a herky-jerky type of fighter. Bernard was smoother in his approach. He was also more calculating in his risk. Pascal takes his chances because he punches without really looking at his target. He presents a different problem in the ring but it really isn't a big problem as long as Sergey sticks to the task at hand. He needs to box him and set traps for Pascal to get caught in. Pascal throws punches with his head down and he is not even looking at his opponent. He is a little more surprising than Bernard; he can throw punches from any angle in hopes of landing that shot to hurt you."
He is also hitting after the "stop" command making him a real jerk :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Will the Canadian officials be fair to Kovalev?

Posted: 08 Mar 2015, 09:19
by Badhusker
The close rounds are the ones to worry about, as hometown advantages can be reality. Kovalev has to make sure it isn't left in the hands of the judges if he can, and I think he will do just that.

Re: Will the Canadian officials be fair to Kovalev?

Posted: 08 Mar 2015, 10:13
by sucracristo
Freedom2013 wrote:
klitoris wrote:Referee: Luis Pabon (Puerto Rico)
Judges: Cesar Ramos (Puerto Rico), Richard James Davies (United Kingdom), Zoltan Enyedi (Hungary)

Canadian refs? Try again bro.
Those are the officials? If so, good news.

Although Davies isn't a good judge, and Pabon isn't one of the more capable refs.
for title fights, it's usually the belts who appoint the officials, not the commissions.
i don't remember seeing many hometown refs or judges for a world title fight