Again who has Avalos faced that are better fighters than Geal and Trout?
You say oh who gives a fuuck who he faced if he didn't perform well but it does matter anyone one could tell you that but ofcourse if your looking to discredit Tapia and credit Frampton well obviously you wont wanna see it that way.
Oh and dont forget Dawson dropped trout twice and in a losing effort showed more against an elite fighter in Trout than Avalos ever had against all the guys he faced.
I think Frampton is better than Geale and Trout, but it doesn't matter. Dawson was badly out of his depth against each of them and was almost shut out over 22 rounds; any fighter could step in the ring with excellent opponents but if they have very little success it doesn't reflect positively on their abilities.
You can then look at the rest of his record and note that he couldn't even beat mediocre Frank LaPorto, drew with similarly mediocre Virgil Kalakoda before just squeaking by him in a rematch, was stopped after not winning a round against light-hitting Dzin, has arguably beaten no one better than shot Alex Bunema, hasn't won since 2013, and is nearly 38.
Avalos isn't great, but he's got wins over contender Drian Francisco, he beat then undefeated prospects Khabir Suleymanov and Yenifel Vicente, he knocked out Yasutaka Ishimoto right after the latter beat Wilfredo Vasquez Jr., and in losing his first IBF title challenge he floored unbeaten Jonathon Romero and was competitive in only dropping a SD. Dawson, for all his one-sided losses to top opposition, doesn't have a collection of performances that is at least that impressive and I don't think he's even outdone Avalos's blowout of former world title challenger Rolly Lunas, who went the distance with Anselmo Moreno and hadn't lost in three years when Avalos KO'd him in three.
Yet despite this, after Frampton battered Avalos you kept blabbering about how he hasn't done shitt, would get thrashed by LSC, and hasn't proved anything until he's fought in America, while then starting a thread of praise for Tapia based on a win in China over the mighty Dawson......funny stuff kiddy boy.
I made a thread about Tapia because he looked much improved compared to his last outings. But never did i say the kid is p4p material or say he's the next greatest thing.
No one said you did, and no one said that Frampton beating Avalos was equivalent to him beating Rigo, LSC, and Donaire on the same night. These were the three comments made before you entered the thread with your crude, abrasive, and unintelligent comments:
"Just saw the fight and Carl Frampton looked impressive stopping Avalos, his boxing and punching was spot on."--Evander
"In my opinion one of the most well-rounded fighters in the sport and the best at 122, and no, I'm not forgetting Rigo."--crusader
"Sounds like they want to have a domestic square off with Scott Quigg, that would be good."--Evander
As you can see---unless your reading comprehension is really that bad, which I suspect it might be--none of these comments remotely suggest that Frampton beating Avalos was equivalent to beating LSC, Rigo, and Donaire on the same night, so your suggestion that people were raving to that extent about Frampton's performance is hyperbolic bullshitt.
Aftet Framptons win over Avalos ppl were talking as if he actually beat a top fighter. Frampton is s stay at home babied fighter who i doubt will ever fight in the states.
Go read the thread again like I just did. There was some praise for Frampton's performance but nothing more favorable then what you've written about Tapia and no one suggested that Avalos was a top fighter. You've resorted to bullshitting again, unless your memory or reading comprehension, or both, are so bad that you genuinely thought people were depicting Avalos as anything more than solid but notably limited.
The top fighters at 122 are Rigo, LSC, and Quigg, and only one of them is American, not to mention an American who almost entirely fights in the US and mainly does so on undercards against guys barely scraping the top 30. Frampton, on the other hand, is headlining sold out arena shows as the A-side and his last fight drew millions of viewers, something which isn't true of the others, and a Quigg fight would likely headline a PPV. I see no reason why he has to come to the US, unless perhaps he wants to share an undercard with LSC.
Cry all you want but in boxing if you wanna make it big you gotta come to America. Look at Duran, chavez, hamed, hatton, canelo, ggg, etc
As much as it hurts you to say you know where its at.
All those fighters are/were bigger than Frampton, who competes in a division that traditionally doesn't get much attention in the US, there is only one top American fighter at the weight, and that fighter is stuck fighting unknown opponents on undercards.
That said, I'm not denying that Frampton could raise his profile by fighting in the US, just as someone like LSC could become more known globally if he fought in the UK, but you suggested that fighters "havent done shiit" until they compete in America and that is nonsense. If a fighter consistently beats the best opponents in his division while no one else does has he proved nothing if those bouts didn't happen in the US? You also seem to have no problem highly praising Tapia for a win he earned roughly 8000 miles outside the US.
Someone's ability as a fighter is shown inside the ring based on how they perform against a certain level of opposition and geography isn't an overriding factor that renders that moot. Sure, a performance may be more impressive if it's given outside a boxer's home country and in a place where they aren't as well supported, but that applies to all boxers, whether American, British, Russian, Japanese and so forth.