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Is Thurman vs Mayweather/Pacquiao possible?

Posted: 08 Mar 2015, 16:14
by Chepppaaa
possible and realistic?

I mean, one time realy seems to become the next force in boxing's most popular division. his fight against guerrrero was super entertaining, some realy great rounds and thurman got a big bang behind his right cross. good for robert that he has such a great chin. impressiv win, keith won clear. robert is a big strong welterweight, with like i said strong chin, i cant envision smaller midgets like marquez or bradley taking what guerrero took without going to sleep. as far as prime brook goes, we will first have to wait how he recovers from his stabbing incident. outside these guy i dont see much guys having a small chance against thurman. khan's glass jaw would stand maybe 4 rounds, maybe maidana.

back to topic....thurman against the winner of the big one, could this happen, for haymon trying to build the next big name in boxing after floyd is done which will be certainly this year?

Re: Is Thurman vs Mayweather/Pacquiao possible?

Posted: 08 Mar 2015, 16:22
by klitoris
First of all the welterweight division is the most popular division because the two most popular fighters in the world (May&Pac) fight in it. So Thurman being the Welterweight champion doesn't make him better than any other champions in other divisions.
Secondly Brook and Khan beat Thurman.

Re: Is Thurman vs Mayweather/Pacquiao possible?

Posted: 08 Mar 2015, 16:27
by Chepppaaa
klitoris wrote:First of all the welterweight division is the most popular division because the two most popular fighters in the world (May&Pac) fight in it. So Thurman being the Welterweight champion doesn't make him better than any other champions in other divisions.
Secondly Brook and Khan beat Thurman.


First of all the welterweight division is the most popular division because the two most popular fighters in the world (May&Pac) fight in it.

did i say otherwise

So Thurman being the Welterweight champion doesn't make him better than any other champions in other divisions.

did i said thurman being the welterweight champion makes him better than any other champion in other divisions?


last question, are you dumb?

Re: Is Thurman vs Mayweather/Pacquiao possible?

Posted: 08 Mar 2015, 16:35
by Ricky_
Do people enjoy watching Thurman?

Re: Is Thurman vs Mayweather/Pacquiao possible?

Posted: 08 Mar 2015, 17:34
by Chepppaaa
Ricky_ wrote:Do people enjoy watching Thurman?

why not...certainly more enjoyable than watching 12 rounds sleep decesion floyd vs guerrero.....

thurman brings a lot of tko and ko's and he comes in to exchange bombs. sure, sometimes he looks a bit robotic, but at least he trys to make a fight and not get on a bycicle for a boring unaminos descision.

Re: Is Thurman vs Mayweather/Pacquiao possible?

Posted: 08 Mar 2015, 18:17
by Lackeos
Of course it's possible. But if Mayweather and Pacquiao end-up locked-up in rematches, then it may or may not be a long time before they fight anyone else. But when they do fight someone else, the most obvious candidates would seem to be Brook, Khan, and Thurman.

Re: Is Thurman vs Mayweather/Pacquiao possible?

Posted: 08 Mar 2015, 18:29
by Ricky_
Chepppaaa wrote:
Ricky_ wrote:Do people enjoy watching Thurman?

why not...certainly more enjoyable than watching 12 rounds sleep decesion floyd vs guerrero.....

thurman brings a lot of tko and ko's and he comes in to exchange bombs. sure, sometimes he looks a bit robotic, but at least he trys to make a fight and not get on a bycicle for a boring unaminos descision.

Mayweather never ran like a bitch against Guerrero. That's 2 fights in a row now i've watched Thurman he's straight out on his bicycle. floyd might not be so exciting these days but i'd rather marvel at the man's craft than tune into Thurman straight up run and throw inaccurate, single power shots all night off the back of his crappy footwork. He sucks. Last night's performance was similar to that of Wilder's vs Stiverne. Guys who can bang a bit, box a little, be awkward, but will ultimately amount to nothing.

Re: Is Thurman vs Mayweather/Pacquiao possible?

Posted: 08 Mar 2015, 18:33
by Chepppaaa
Ricky_ wrote:
Chepppaaa wrote:
Ricky_ wrote:Do people enjoy watching Thurman?

why not...certainly more enjoyable than watching 12 rounds sleep decesion floyd vs guerrero.....

thurman brings a lot of tko and ko's and he comes in to exchange bombs. sure, sometimes he looks a bit robotic, but at least he trys to make a fight and not get on a bycicle for a boring unaminos descision.

Mayweather never ran like a bitch against Guerrero. That's 2 fights in a row now i've watched Thurman he's straight out on his bicycle. floyd might not be so exciting these days but i'd rather marvel at the man's craft than tune into Thurman straight up run and throw inaccurate, single power shots all night off the back of his crappy footwork. He sucks. Last night's performance was similar to that of Wilder's vs Stiverne. Guys who can bang a bit, box a little, be awkward, but will ultimately amount to nothing.
okay. i like more banging it out. you like more pure boxing technicians, with less action and 0 notion of it might end with something exciting like a KO.

Re: Is Thurman vs Mayweather/Pacquiao possible?

Posted: 08 Mar 2015, 18:50
by Badhusker
Ricky_ wrote:
Chepppaaa wrote:
Ricky_ wrote:Do people enjoy watching Thurman?

why not...certainly more enjoyable than watching 12 rounds sleep decesion floyd vs guerrero.....

thurman brings a lot of tko and ko's and he comes in to exchange bombs. sure, sometimes he looks a bit robotic, but at least he trys to make a fight and not get on a bycicle for a boring unaminos descision.

Mayweather never ran like a bitch against Guerrero. That's 2 fights in a row now i've watched Thurman he's straight out on his bicycle. floyd might not be so exciting these days but i'd rather marvel at the man's craft than tune into Thurman straight up run and throw inaccurate, single power shots all night off the back of his crappy footwork. He sucks. Last night's performance was similar to that of Wilder's vs Stiverne. Guys who can bang a bit, box a little, be awkward, but will ultimately amount to nothing.

Thurman sucks? Man, you must have forgot more about boxing than I will ever know. If you can't recognize some good talent there, basically shutting out and very, very, nearly knocking out a guy that 1) has one loss in 8 years and 2) Has never been KO'd.......well all I can do is: :bow:

For the original OP question; Thurman is a possibility, but have my doubts. I think Khan will fight Brook in June, and Thurman will fight the winner of the Shawn Porter fight. (Garcia?) Khan can't fight in September so he is out even if he beats Brook, which I doubt. I think it will either be Floyd/Pac II or Danny Garcia. Thurman or Brook would be third choice.

If I were Floyd, and he wins vs Pac convincingly, I would just retire...38yrs old, legacy sealed, and going out on top.

Re: Is Thurman vs Mayweather/Pacquiao possible?

Posted: 08 Mar 2015, 19:01
by Ricky_
Chepppaaa wrote: okay. i like more banging it out. you like more pure boxing technicians, with less action and 0 notion of it might end with something exciting like a KO.

No, i like high quality action. Thurman runs, throws single shots, has overrated power, he's more crude than good. His performance against Bundu was pathetic. They call him "one-time" cause that's how many punches he throws before getting back on his bike.

Re: Is Thurman vs Mayweather/Pacquiao possible?

Posted: 08 Mar 2015, 19:04
by Chepppaaa
^totaly right badhusker.....

but its so idiotic the things i read on here. the best jokes were, when i heard thurman would have a tough time with khan or that khan would beat thurman :doh: :verysad: :KO: :doh: :o

I mean....you got a guy, who gets tazered ones he fights big punchers and all of the sudden, just because the dude gets hyped, because he beat such extrordinary elite opponents like devin the goat alexander or luis tbe collazo, now some crazy people think that mr. 0,000 chin can beat a guy with a 80 % KO ratio, who is considered one of the biggest hitters in boxing.

Re: Is Thurman vs Mayweather/Pacquiao possible?

Posted: 08 Mar 2015, 19:09
by Chepppaaa
Ricky_ wrote:
Chepppaaa wrote: okay. i like more banging it out. you like more pure boxing technicians, with less action and 0 notion of it might end with something exciting like a KO.

No, i like high quality action. Thurman runs, throws single shots, has overrated power, he's more crude than good. His performance against Bundu was pathetic. They call him "one-time" cause that's how many punches he throws before getting back on his bike.

high quality action hahahahahaha....that was funny.......if mayweather is quality action to you, than you easy to satisfy......its more high quality non action. what i mean by that is that he fights in a quality way, his jab, his accuracy, i mean floyd is quality, no doubt, but as far as action goes, totaly non action. i mean how can you call a guy action, when floyd fights like this = stand, jab, wait, pause, circle, shoulder role counter, moves, moves, one punch, wait, one punch, wait, wait, wait, one punch. where thurman is circling and moving, but when he goes at it, he delivers some heavy combination of 4-6 punches, or he unleashes 1+2 left right, or big looping hooks or uppercuts. floyd is always jab, right cross, move around, wait, jab, right cross and do nothing and wait for the opponent to do something so floyd can counter. totaly non action to me.

Re: Is Thurman vs Mayweather/Pacquiao possible?

Posted: 08 Mar 2015, 19:16
by Ricky_
Chepppaaa wrote:
Ricky_ wrote:
Chepppaaa wrote: okay. i like more banging it out. you like more pure boxing technicians, with less action and 0 notion of it might end with something exciting like a KO.

No, i like high quality action. Thurman runs, throws single shots, has overrated power, he's more crude than good. His performance against Bundu was pathetic. They call him "one-time" cause that's how many punches he throws before getting back on his bike.

high quality action hahahahahaha....that was funny.......if mayweather is quality action to you, than you easy to satisfy......its more high quality non action. what i mean by that is that he fights in a quality way, his jab, his accuracy, i mean floyd is quality, no doubt, but as far as action goes, totaly non action. i mean how can you call a guy action, when floyd fights like this = stand, jab, wait, pause, circle, shoulder role counter, moves, moves, one punch, wait, one punch, wait, wait, wait, one punch. where thurman is circling and moving, but when he goes at it, he delivers some heavy combination of 4-6 punches, or he unleashes 1+2 left right, or big looping hooks or uppercuts. floyd is always jab, right cross, move around, wait, jab, right cross and do nothing and wait for the opponent to do something so floyd can counter. totaly non action to me.
Maybe so, but Thurman is low-quality, low-action. Guerrero was desperate to make a fight of it and Thurman ran like a bitch and looked like an amatuer on the inside when Guerrero did get close in the championship rounds. He's nothing but an athletically gifted guy who can throw single shots almost as hard as Maidana or Garcia. He can't punch in combos, he can't fight in the pocket. He looks like he's been boxing for a year or 2.

The hype surrounding him isn't too disimilar to Broner. Both guys are garbage and get way more hype than they are worth because they are American's with big mouths. Timothy Bradley would take Thurman to school and then his career path will follow Berto's.

Re: Is Thurman vs Mayweather/Pacquiao possible?

Posted: 08 Mar 2015, 19:19
by KBB
I think Thurman may have proven he is ready for the likes of Garcia or a few others at the top but IMHO he didn't do quite enough to show that he is ready for either of them yet. I didn't see any inside game from Keith and he makes too many mistakes that will be exploited by the speed and ability of either man.

He did a great job in beating Guerrero though.