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A poll would be helpful. I would put him somewhere in 5th-8th spot.

I wouldn't put him top ten yet,for me he hasn't beaten anyone of note,Hopkins was ancient and Pascal hadn't done anything worth talking about for several years.

bigjack wrote:I wouldn't put him top ten yet,for me he hasn't beaten anyone of note,Hopkins was ancient and Pascal hadn't done anything worth talking about for several years.

... and the division is really weak ... blah ... blah ... I think I have already heard that somewhere.

I don't have a set of rankings but I think lower top ten is appropriate.

ikorolev wrote:

bigjack wrote:I wouldn't put him top ten yet,for me he hasn't beaten anyone of note,Hopkins was ancient and Pascal hadn't done anything worth talking about for several years.

... and the division is really weak ... blah ... blah ... I think I have already heard that somewhere.

I never said that,if he beat Stephenson and then Braehmer i'd be impressed.

Is Braehmer someone of note in your opinion?

bigjack wrote:I wouldn't put him top ten yet,for me he hasn't beaten anyone of note,Hopkins was ancient and Pascal hadn't done anything worth talking about for several years.

He is very dominant in his wins though. If people put Alvarez in their top-10 after he beat an ancient Mosley and barely edged Trout, why not Kovalev?

I have him at No. 5.

crusader wrote:Is Braehmer someone of note in your opinion?

Yes i like him,but that's my opinion,i'm sure you'll not agree with me

Braehmer sucks and he knows that which is why he doesn't come close to top 10 LHWs and fights nobodies instead. Beterbiev and Stevenson are the only ones who have chances (mainly puncher ones) to beat Kova.

bigjack wrote:

crusader wrote:Is Braehmer someone of note in your opinion?

Yes i like him,but that's my opinion,i'm sure you'll not agree with me

He's okay, but I don't see how he's a notable opponent if Hopkins and Pascal aren't.

bigjack wrote:I never said that,if he beat Stephenson and then Braehmer i'd be impressed.

Braehmer is not better than Hopkins, Pascal or Cleverly.

Horse wrote:

bigjack wrote:I never said that,if he beat Stephenson and then Braehmer i'd be impressed.

Braehmer is not better than Hopkins, Pascal or Cleverly.

Braehmer doesn't stand near 49-year old Hopkins or Pascal. WBA is the most corrupt of the ABC orgs, and they allowed Braehmer to fight Oliveira for their regular title. Oliveira is a nobody who fought nobody, and there were a bunch of more deserving candidates many of whom could beat Braehmer.

I think Kovalev would stop Braehmer in 2-3 rounds.

The next guy from the bottom 6 of the P4P list to lose will likely see Kovalev take his spot.

Easily top 10 but who really cares? P4P lists are jokes. He's the best LHW and it's not really close. I think he'd do well at cruiser as well.

In the top 6. The K man has very good skills, and fights the best out there.

Top 8 definitely. All depends, if people include Ward or not due to inactivity. I will be inclined to go in the 6-7 range, just behind Wladimir. At this rate he is going at, he should be top 5 by the end of the year.

Blodhemn wrote:Easily top 10 but who really cares?

Lots of people.

Blodhemn wrote:P4P lists are jokes.

No, they aren't.

Yeah you're right. Some people take them too sersiously... trying to pair up fighters with some being about the size as the other one's dinner is serious business.

crusader wrote:I don't have a set of rankings but I think lower top ten is appropriate.

I concur.

On resume just outside top ten,
on ability and scariness inside the top 10


So I think I'll put him at no10

I rank him higher than Stevenson

No1 but if Braehmer beats Krasniqi next week ,he goes top