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I am so sick of the so called world heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko, are you kidding me after he beats the boring slow motion walking dead Jennings he gets to fight another handed picked easy fight in Vyacheslav “Czar” Glazkov?
I saw an interview the other day were Klitschko said there is no money or demand to fight Wilder? are you kidding me what has Glazkov done to earn a title shot other then winning fights that he really lost.

greenmonkey wrote:I am so sick of the so called world heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko, are you kidding me after he beats the boring slow motion walking dead Jennings he gets to fight another handed picked easy fight in Vyacheslav “Czar” Glazkov?
I saw an interview the other day were Klitschko said there is no money or demand to fight Wilder? are you kidding me what has Glazkov done to earn a title shot other then winning fights that he really lost.

I though Fury was next, I thought he was mandatory for the WBO title. Was he not told he had the shot in the bag

Surely if Tyson has reached mandatory status for one of Wlads belt BEFORE Glaskov was mandatory for the IBF, Tyson should be first in line

greenmonkey wrote:I am so sick of the so called world heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko, are you kidding me after he beats the boring slow motion walking dead Jennings he gets to fight another handed picked easy fight in Vyacheslav “Czar” Glazkov?
I saw an interview the other day were Klitschko said there is no money or demand to fight Wilder? are you kidding me what has Glazkov done to earn a title shot other then winning fights that he really lost.

Wlad has built-in money making machines.

They are called K2 and Germany, respectively.

An American boycott is almost oxymoronic in respect to him, although I am sure he'd like to expand his money base these last fights...

It's hilarious to me at least how people bitch and whine and ask, "When will there be another Tyson or Holyfield or Ali?" in the mainstream media, when these winos don't realize we have had (more or less) a dominate heavyweight champion for the passed decade who is approaching the world record for title defenses. People can complain all they want about Klitschko--- but hell, if I was in his shoes, and it didn't matter who I fought because regardless I'm making anywhere between $5-10 million a fight in Ukraine, Switzerland, Germany, etc. I wouldn't care what my critics said.

True, I want to see Klitschko face the main two guys: Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder, but let's get real here. How big of a shot do you give them at present to beat Klitschko? Though I am good friends with Peter Fury, and have interviewed him a few times in the past--- I personally would rather see a clash between Fury and Wilder for the WBC belt, than I would see the two of them go on a suicide mission against Klitschko. They need to 'prove' they are capable of beating him, and the only way that can be 'solidified' is if they beat one another.

And... hell... what did u all expect? This is the HW division. NOTHING EVER GOES THE WAY YOU WANT IT TO. So you have to expect the expected, and cheer for the unexpected when it comes. I will say, though, I am glad Klitschko is picking the likes of Glazkov rather than face the ancient Briggs. And hey, its a stay busy fight. After Klitschko beats mandatories, he should be granted voluntaries.

greenmonkey wrote:I am so sick of the so called world heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko, are you kidding me after he beats the boring slow motion walking dead Jennings he gets to fight another handed picked easy fight in Vyacheslav “Czar” Glazkov?
I saw an interview the other day were Klitschko said there is no money or demand to fight Wilder? are you kidding me what has Glazkov done to earn a title shot other then winning fights that he really lost.

Wlad doesn't set sanctioning body eliminators; the sanctioning body does. So moot point.

punchoutsb wrote:

greenmonkey wrote:I am so sick of the so called world heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko, are you kidding me after he beats the boring slow motion walking dead Jennings he gets to fight another handed picked easy fight in Vyacheslav “Czar” Glazkov?
I saw an interview the other day were Klitschko said there is no money or demand to fight Wilder? are you kidding me what has Glazkov done to earn a title shot other then winning fights that he really lost.

Wlad doesn't set sanctioning body eliminators; the sanctioning body does. So moot point.

lol wlads dying to fight wilder, but father haymon isnt up 4 it

wlads antics are definitely annoying

Recent Wlad quote:

“We need to do it [Klitschko vs. Wilder] and we have to do it. There is certainly a reason why I’m back here and why I’m fighting on US television live on US soil,” Wladimir said via the Sportsmole.co.uk. “Wilder is the most valuable opponent for me to fight and the price is the title that he has.”


People need to stop complaining.......

ANY CLOWN THAT THINKS VLAD HAS NO SAY IN WHO HE FIGHTS MUST SIT UP EVERY XMAS EVE AND WAIT FOR SANTA TO LAND ON HIS ROOF WITH RUDOLF.

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:ANY CLOWN THAT THINKS VLAD HAS NO SAY IN WHO HE FIGHTS MUST SIT UP EVERY XMAS EVE AND WAIT FOR SANTA TO LAND ON HIS ROOF WITH RUDOLF.

Santa won't come if we're awake...

HomicideHenry wrote: After Klitschko beats mandatories, he should be granted voluntaries.

Am I correct in thinking most governing bodies expect you to fight a mandatory defence every 3 fights?

Klitschko has 3, which surely means, to satisfy all governing bodies he has to continuously fight mandatory contenders to keep the governing bodies satisfied and hold on to the 3 titles???

Povetkin was WBA ordinary champ, which made him mandatory
Boytsov had been WBO ranked and his fight with Leapai had been a final eliminator, Hence Leapai getting the shot,
Pulev was mandatory for the IBF,
Jennings is ranked 1 and mandatory for the WBA,
Fury is apparently now mandatory and next in line through WBO ranking
Glazkov is now being talked about as mandatory through IBF

That looks like a cycle to me, How does he keep them happy and escape this mandatory cycle to fight Wilder for the WBC.
And how do you keep 4 governing bodies satisfied once you hold all the belts??

Exactly who has Klitscho ever avoided? Cleaned out the division. While Fury and Wilder are fun and hopefully will bring excitement they haven't exactly fought murders row. Especially Wilder.... Weak opponents all the way to the title. Klitscho has already beaten Poventkin, Haye, and Thompson twice. Peters, Byrd, Pulev, etc. Don't get this post especially coming off his destruction of top rated Pulev last fight.

davie wrote:

HomicideHenry wrote: After Klitschko beats mandatories, he should be granted voluntaries.

Am I correct in thinking most governing bodies expect you to fight a mandatory defence every 3 fights?

Klitschko has 3, which surely means, to satisfy all governing bodies he has to continuously fight mandatory contenders to keep the governing bodies satisfied and hold on to the 3 titles???

Povetkin was WBA ordinary champ, which made him mandatory
Boytsov had been WBO ranked and his fight with Leapai had been a final eliminator, Hence Leapai getting the shot,
Pulev was mandatory for the IBF,
Jennings is ranked 1 and mandatory for the WBA,
Fury is apparently now mandatory and next in line through WBO ranking
Glazkov is now being talked about as mandatory through IBF
That looks like a cycle to me, How does he keep them happy and escape this mandatory cycle to fight Wilder for the WBC.
And how do you keep 4 governing bodies satisfied once you hold all the belts??

Exactly right Davie. Wlad has to fight his mandatories or lose the belts.
It's not his fault who the challengers are, he has no say in the matter.

HomicideHenry wrote:It's hilarious to me at least how people bitch and whine and ask, "When will there be another Tyson or Holyfield or Ali?" in the mainstream media, when these winos don't realize we have had (more or less) a dominate heavyweight champion for the passed decade who is approaching the world record for title defenses. People can complain all they want about Klitschko--- but hell, if I was in his shoes, and it didn't matter who I fought because regardless I'm making anywhere between $5-10 million a fight in Ukraine, Switzerland, Germany, etc. I wouldn't care what my critics said.

True, I want to see Klitschko face the main two guys: Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder, but let's get real here. How big of a shot do you give them at present to beat Klitschko? Though I am good friends with Peter Fury, and have interviewed him a few times in the past--- I personally would rather see a clash between Fury and Wilder for the WBC belt, than I would see the two of them go on a suicide mission against Klitschko. They need to 'prove' they are capable of beating him, and the only way that can be 'solidified' is if they beat one another.

i like your posts in general and the first part
of this one in particular, but you got carried
away here a little and derailed from the rails
of rationale thought ...

armageto wrote:Recent Wlad quote:

“We need to do it [Klitschko vs. Wilder] and we have to do it. There is certainly a reason why I’m back here and why I’m fighting on US television live on US soil,” Wladimir said via the Sportsmole.co.uk. “Wilder is the most valuable opponent for me to fight and the price is the title that he has.”

People need to stop complaining.......

i think wlad has become a man in recent
years and right now is as ATG as you can
be. difficult to beat for everyone and not
afraid to fight anyone.

davie wrote:

HomicideHenry wrote: After Klitschko beats mandatories, he should be granted voluntaries.

Am I correct in thinking most governing bodies expect you to fight a mandatory defence every 3 fights?

Klitschko has 3, which surely means, to satisfy all governing bodies he has to continuously fight mandatory contenders to keep the governing bodies satisfied and hold on to the 3 titles???

Povetkin was WBA ordinary champ, which made him mandatory
Boytsov had been WBO ranked and his fight with Leapai had been a final eliminator, Hence Leapai getting the shot,
Pulev was mandatory for the IBF,
Jennings is ranked 1 and mandatory for the WBA,
Fury is apparently now mandatory and next in line through WBO ranking
Glazkov is now being talked about as mandatory through IBF

That looks like a cycle to me, How does he keep them happy and escape this mandatory cycle to fight Wilder for the WBC.
And how do you keep 4 governing bodies satisfied once you hold all the belts??

Respect for keeping up to date with all that nonsense, but I do believe this to be correct. Tyson then Glazkov & then maybe we got an opening for Deontay.

This ducking type bs that gets brought forth all the time makes me wanna slap someone thru the computer. You can't fight EVERYONE. Deontay is in line. And there isn't a doubt in my mind Deontay will get his shot if he keeps winning, but the reality is Wlad likes all those belts (I'm not a fan of that fact, but Wlad makes his own decisions without my input & has done alright for himself) so he's got a line of cats. Personally I think Deontay would best serve himself vs Wlad by getting a couple title defenses anyway. Deontay gives himself his best opportunity to win by a combo of improving his own game, getting some more experience & letting Wlad get a lil older. Be careful what you wish for Deontay you might just get it a lil sooner than you'll like.

Also at a boycott, why don't you go boycott something that f#cking matters in your town, city, state or country. Boycott a fighter

Why do we keep getting these stupid questions about wlad only someone with out any boxing knowledge could question his ability, skill and reign ,he's been dominant for a decade beating everyone

stevedoc wrote:Why do we keep getting these stupid questions about wlad only someone with out any boxing knowledge could question his ability, skill and reign ,he's been dominant for a decade beating everyone

Because like the song goes..."Haters gonna hate hate hate."

Dancin' Dan wrote:Exactly who has Klitscho ever avoided? Cleaned out the division. While Fury and Wilder are fun and hopefully will bring excitement they haven't exactly fought murders row. Especially Wilder.... Weak opponents all the way to the title. Klitscho has already beaten Poventkin, Haye, and Thompson twice. Peters, Byrd, Pulev, etc. Don't get this post especially coming off his destruction of top rated Pulev last fight.

I get the post of thread starter. He's frustrated that Klitschko has been on top for 10+ years and does not see him losing anytime soon.

Viadimir has ducked no one.

man wrote:

HomicideHenry wrote:It's hilarious to me at least how people bitch and whine and ask, "When will there be another Tyson or Holyfield or Ali?" in the mainstream media, when these winos don't realize we have had (more or less) a dominate heavyweight champion for the passed decade who is approaching the world record for title defenses. People can complain all they want about Klitschko--- but hell, if I was in his shoes, and it didn't matter who I fought because regardless I'm making anywhere between $5-10 million a fight in Ukraine, Switzerland, Germany, etc. I wouldn't care what my critics said.

True, I want to see Klitschko face the main two guys: Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder, but let's get real here. How big of a shot do you give them at present to beat Klitschko? Though I am good friends with Peter Fury, and have interviewed him a few times in the past--- I personally would rather see a clash between Fury and Wilder for the WBC belt, than I would see the two of them go on a suicide mission against Klitschko. They need to 'prove' they are capable of beating him, and the only way that can be 'solidified' is if they beat one another.

i like your posts in general and the first part
of this one in particular, but you got carried
away here a little and derailed from the rails
of rationale thought ...

Well, for me personally, it should matter if the contender in line is a 'live underdog' or not. I think by and large people can say Vladimir is worlds away from others in the current crop--- so the best anyone could possibly be would be garunteed 40% of a chance at winning. Sure, Klitschko can still be hurt with shots--- I've seen him momentarily be rocked by lesser opposition--- but usually when that happens, Klitschko goes from 'sleep mode' to full blast and its lights out three seconds later.

That's why I insist we make Fury/Wilder first, because at least there would be something to see. Two undefeated giants with big personalities and big punches--- for maybe the most entertaining belt in recent years (WBC). Then that winner, can face Klitschko in a unifier. I think the winner of that contest (Wilder/Fury) would be a solid 40% chance of winning. Maybe my rationale or bias is wrong or off--- I'm a bit of a nostalgist, I think fighters ought to be credible and more than prove themselves for title shots--- and to be honest, I never saw how Wilder deserved a shot against Stiverne to begin with, and though Fury has taken the tougher road, his best opponent was a former Cruiserweight champion.

THAT being said... I'm pro-Fury, and if anyone has the ability to do so... I imagine he's the only one who could. He can box at range, he can switch from orthodox to southpaw, he doesn't know the word 'Quit' he will get up off the canvas and fighter harder, he isn't afraid to turn anything into a dog fight... He makes fringe guys look amateurish (his TKO over Chisora was briliant, he never got out of auto-pilot, threw mostly jabs)... and he's taller, heavier and younger than the present champion.

greenmonkey wrote:I am so sick of the so called world heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko, are you kidding me after he beats the boring slow motion walking dead Jennings he gets to fight another handed picked easy fight in Vyacheslav “Czar” Glazkov?
I saw an interview the other day were Klitschko said there is no money or demand to fight Wilder? are you kidding me what has Glazkov done to earn a title shot other then winning fights that he really lost.

Your call for a boycott isn't going to accomplish much.

For me Wladimir Klitschko has done what we fight fans want to see hapen more often. He has since 2006 unified the division and beaten every able contender that has been put forward in front of him by the sanctioning bodies. It aint his fault the division does have a depth of talent aller the 70s and the 1990s. You just have to fight who is out(here, win and look good while doing it (plus make a few quid as well). And because of his and big brother Vitalis near decade long dominance and clear out. Wladimir is left having to face the young lions like Glazkov, Bryant Jennings, Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder. And he will keep on going until he either the following.

1: He breaks Joe Louis' record of 25 consecutive world title defences and 12 year long reign.
2: He breaks Julio Cesar Chavez Snrs record of most appearances in a world title fight. Wladimir Klitschko has been involved in 26 World title fights. JCC Snr has been involved in 37 world title fights (27 defences and 10 challenges).

3: One of the aforementioned young lions beheads him.

And that is what is going to happen.

Wilder finally fought someone with a pulse/skills and Fury has yet to do so.

... and you come to the conclusion that Wlad is the problem? What's wrong with you Wlad haters? The guy is a very good fighter and will be remembered as #1 or #2 heavyweight of this era.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Wilder finally fought someone with a pulse/skills and Fury has yet to do so.

... and you come to the conclusion that Wlad is the problem? What's wrong with you Wlad haters? The guy is a very good fighter and will be remembered as #1 or #2 heavyweight of this era.

I've wondered this for some time

Not only have Wilder and Fury never fought someone at the level of Haye, Povetkin or Pulev.
Neither of them are at the level of Haye, Povetkin or Pulev IMO

They are, at present, the 2 best fighters available for Wlad and pose a couple of interesting questions for Wlad in terms of how he deals with fury's size and Wilders punch (if it lands)
But ultimately I reckon Wlad just adds them to his list of solid wins.

I am a big Klitschko fan, but I would be very disappointed if he fought Glazkov before he fights Wilder and Fury.