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It's good to hear Ward's trainer talking up the fight, although I disagree with him that Ward will destroy Froch. What is dissapointing, though, is Ward's reluctance to travel. Froch boxed him on his own turf last time, and Ward, who has done very little since then, should return the favour. I want to see how Ward gets on against a fired up Froch. Surewly, Ward, as a top competitor should want that to, no?

does Froch want it ?

I don't think he does... I think he knows he cant beat him

not knocking Froch, he has fought them all...

Froch v GGG is what i want

I think ward needs froch more than froch needs ward.

Ward doesn't sell tickets, he is avoided, hasn't fought anyone for along time. What a way to return than beat the guy who has claimed top spot whilst you've been out te ring.

I think ward wins, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Carl go feck it I'm retiring

I honestly can't see Carl going back over there for a Ward fight.

Fighting Ward infront of a couple of thousand people in a lifeless venue isn't the best way out for Froch. I agree with Nitro in that Ward needs Froch more than the other way around now. There will be a buzz on this side of the Atlantic but not much the other side.

Rocnation might put a ridiculous offer.

They've already agreed a whopping $50m for 3 miguel cotto fights - and as much as I love Cotto, that's insane at the end of his career.

I think Ward UD's Froch again. But I think it would be a lot closer. Carl was really jaded by the time he got to the super six finale, whereas Ward was fresh and had a few gimme's in his back yard.

If it's in the UK, maybe the City ground, then I'd certainly not rule Carl out of beating Ward - but would still have him the underdog.

Truth be told, Ward is utterly boring to watch. I'd rather see Froch Groves III any day of the week as there would be more chance of drama.

I don't think the buzz would be anywhere near what it was for the Groves rematch. The Americans are also likely to bid much, much more than Eddie, wether Ward is a ticket seller or not.

big lennox wrote:It's good to hear Ward's trainer talking up the fight, although I disagree with him that Ward will destroy Froch. What is dissapointing, though, is Ward's reluctance to travel. Froch boxed him on his own turf last time, and Ward, who has done very little since then, should return the favour. I want to see how Ward gets on against a fired up Froch. Surewly, Ward, as a top competitor should want that to, no?

In fairness it wasn't really Ward's turf. Atlantic city may still be in the US but it's not a home venue for Ward in the way Oakland, or even Vegas (I assume) would be.

Froch has been on about fighting in Nottingham, which is a different kettle of fish.

J-C wrote:

big lennox wrote:It's good to hear Ward's trainer talking up the fight, although I disagree with him that Ward will destroy Froch. What is dissapointing, though, is Ward's reluctance to travel. Froch boxed him on his own turf last time, and Ward, who has done very little since then, should return the favour. I want to see how Ward gets on against a fired up Froch. Surewly, Ward, as a top competitor should want that to, no?

In fairness it wasn't really Ward's turf. Atlantic city may still be in the US but it's not a home venue for Ward in the way Oakland, or even Vegas (I assume) would be.

Froch has been on about fighting in Nottingham, which is a different kettle of fish.

Ok stick it on at the O2. Still suits Carl better, more likely to get a home decsion if needed.

Only way I see Carl travelling is if rocnation, pay huge money and make it headlining the MGM in vegas

Theres not much out there thats meaningful now for froch, personally i expect a city ground final goodbye fight in the summer vs someone whos unlikely to spoil the party.
Chudinov and Sturm had been mentioned locally (not sure if there was any substance to the rumours (but they are now facing each other) and im really not keen on a hopkins fight.
Think we will likely see a rebrasse type opponent

Froch deserves a big money fight in Vegas. He's been matched tremendously tough over the years, is coming to the end of his career, and should get that Vegas fight, rather than another life and death thing. End of story.

G0mez wrote:I'd rather see Froch Groves III any day of the week as there would be more chance of drama.

What?

Looking On wrote:Theres not much out there thats meaningful now for froch, personally i expect a city ground final goodbye fight in the summer vs someone whos unlikely to spoil the party.
Chudinov and Sturm had been mentioned locally (not sure if there was any substance to the rumours (but they are now facing each other) and im really not keen on a hopkins fight.
Think we will likely see a rebrasse type opponent

Wow, that would be awful.

G0mez wrote:Rocnation might put a ridiculous offer.

They've already agreed a whopping $50m for 3 miguel cotto fights - and as much as I love Cotto, that's insane at the end of his career.

I think Ward UD's Froch again. But I think it would be a lot closer. Carl was really jaded by the time he got to the super six finale, whereas Ward was fresh and had a few gimme's in his back yard.

If it's in the UK, maybe the City ground, then I'd certainly not rule Carl out of beating Ward - but would still have him the underdog.

Truth be told, Ward is utterly boring to watch. I'd rather see Froch Groves III any day of the week as there would be more chance of drama.

Ward fought Kessler, Green and Abraham, Dirrell pulled out so he fought Bika instead in a fight outside the tournament. Froch fought Dirrell, Kessler, Abraham and Johnson. Very little difference in opponents there and neither had fought for 6 months before the fight, if Froch was tired, Ward must have been too, or Froch didn't train properly, which would be very unusual for him.

expe wrote: Ward fought Kessler, Green and Abraham, Dirrell pulled out so he fought Bika instead in a fight outside the tournament. Froch fought Dirrell, Kessler, Abraham and Johnson. Very little difference in opponents there and neither had fought for 6 months before the fight, if Froch was tired, Ward must have been too, or Froch didn't train properly, which would be very unusual for him.

How old was you six years ago, 11 ?

You know nothing of the super 6 or the goings on.

G0mez wrote:

expe wrote: Ward fought Kessler, Green and Abraham, Dirrell pulled out so he fought Bika instead in a fight outside the tournament. Froch fought Dirrell, Kessler, Abraham and Johnson. Very little difference in opponents there and neither had fought for 6 months before the fight, if Froch was tired, Ward must have been too, or Froch didn't train properly, which would be very unusual for him.

How old was you six years ago, 11 ?

You know nothing of the super 6 or the goings on.

When you can come back with a proper answer, you'll get a proper reply, if you want to talk bollocks and change the subject, you can talk to yourself.

expe wrote:

G0mez wrote:Rocnation might put a ridiculous offer.

They've already agreed a whopping $50m for 3 miguel cotto fights - and as much as I love Cotto, that's insane at the end of his career.

I think Ward UD's Froch again. But I think it would be a lot closer. Carl was really jaded by the time he got to the super six finale, whereas Ward was fresh and had a few gimme's in his back yard.

If it's in the UK, maybe the City ground, then I'd certainly not rule Carl out of beating Ward - but would still have him the underdog.

Truth be told, Ward is utterly boring to watch. I'd rather see Froch Groves III any day of the week as there would be more chance of drama.

Ward fought Kessler, Green and Abraham, Dirrell pulled out so he fought Bika instead in a fight outside the tournament. Froch fought Dirrell, Kessler, Abraham and Johnson. Very little difference in opponents there and neither had fought for 6 months before the fight, if Froch was tired, Ward must have been too, or Froch didn't train properly, which would be very unusual for him.

Funnily enough, his perpetration wasn't great for Kessler 1 or Groves 1, either. But he's too much of a proud warrior to make excuses.

mickey1975 wrote:

expe wrote:

G0mez wrote:Rocnation might put a ridiculous offer.

They've already agreed a whopping $50m for 3 miguel cotto fights - and as much as I love Cotto, that's insane at the end of his career.

I think Ward UD's Froch again. But I think it would be a lot closer. Carl was really jaded by the time he got to the super six finale, whereas Ward was fresh and had a few gimme's in his back yard.

If it's in the UK, maybe the City ground, then I'd certainly not rule Carl out of beating Ward - but would still have him the underdog.

Truth be told, Ward is utterly boring to watch. I'd rather see Froch Groves III any day of the week as there would be more chance of drama.

Ward fought Kessler, Green and Abraham, Dirrell pulled out so he fought Bika instead in a fight outside the tournament. Froch fought Dirrell, Kessler, Abraham and Johnson. Very little difference in opponents there and neither had fought for 6 months before the fight, if Froch was tired, Ward must have been too, or Froch didn't train properly, which would be very unusual for him.

Funnily enough, his perpetration wasn't great for Kessler 1 or Groves 1, either. But he's too much of a proud warrior to make excuses.

The Ward excuses top the lot, better than Haye and his toe, ranging from him being disappointed the fight wasn't at Madison Square Garden, to it was cold and nearly Christmas.

What a surprise, mickey & expe talking about Carl Froch.

I'll leave you both to it, have fun.

G0mez wrote:What a surprise, mickey & expe talking about Carl Froch.

I'll leave you both to it, have fun.

I'll never write off Froch against anyone even Andre Ward,Carl's proved he can pull it out the bag time and again,the safe money says Ward outpoints him again although after being out a while and Froch brimming with confidence since having to come from behind in both the Groves fights,I can see Froch dealing with trailing on cards better than he did in the first fight

If the fight got made for over here,I can vision Froch scoring a late stoppage with the crowd right behind him,who knows how Ward travels especially in the lions den

If forced into a pick I would go for Ward closer points,needing to hold off a late rally from Froch but anyone who thinks its a giving that Ward wins again obviously hasn't seen Froch before, the guys a effing warrior and lies down for no pudendum

Given the choice of Ward of GGG I wonder which he would choose?

I don't want to see it. I just want to see Kovalev beat up Ward at 175. If I could get that this year, I wouldn't need to watch another fight.

Froch vs Ward II is a massive 'NO' from me. Doesn't interest me in the slightest. If it was to happen in the US, I think the Sky PPV numbers would be pretty low.

I'd love to see it.