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could this actualy the 2 best LH going at it and how would it end up. both got cruiserweight kind of strength and power. i know one thing, i favour kovalev, but if the powerul bertebiev punches kova as clear as pascal did, than kovalev goes down for 7 secondes pause

Kovalev. Different level.

BeTERbiev, not Bertebiev. FFS!

I don t think he is ready yet but could be a good match up by next years summer..

Butterbeans is too one dimensional

maybe a little to early for Berteriev so Kovalev for me

Bump

3 years later and the going on 34 year old beterbiev still hasnt fought anyone and only has 12 fights, yet this thread is being bumped as some type of slight to kov, who beat much better opponents then enrico knoelling and lost competitively in fighting top opponents, very arguably beating a p4p level guy

shows how backward the mentality is of some fans

Prime Kovalev would have dominated him. Now it probably would have been a tougher fight, but still I favour Kovalev.

IKSRTFO wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 16:43Bump

Why are you bumping all the old Kovalev threads?

ewenhay wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 17:55

IKSRTFO wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 16:43Bump

Why are you bumping all the old Kovalev threads?

So people can stop having selective memory on how hyped this guy was.

lol, and i can easily post loads of predictions that hopkins was going to beat him, see the other thread, and thats not even counting american opinions. you even bumped a thread that ward would totally outclass him in an uncompeittive fight

the 'hype job'/'limited'/'another pavlik' train was pretty packed. he actually did a lot better vs bhop and ward and even clev then many expected. of course pretty much any fighter will have some ppl who get excited and overrate them. your just cherry picking those.

btw, he may well still ko beterbiev, bert has really done nothing to prove kov couldnt beat him. no other lhw around now has fought someone as good as ward, and hardly any have fought someone as good as alvarez. kov gave tough fights to both and hurt both

i dont even like kov but i just hate this trend of sh!tting on guys who step up and take tough fights but lose. fans say they want more risk taking, but the reality is that for so many fans they treat guys better when those guys are just running up wins over lesser opposition rather then facing the elite

IKSRTFO wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 20:09

ewenhay wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 17:55

IKSRTFO wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 16:43Bump

Why are you bumping all the old Kovalev threads?

So people can stop having selective memory on how hyped this guy was.

This is getting ridiculous. You’re kicking him when he’s down. He was brutally koed the other night by a tough challenger. But now he’s nothing but a hype job after proving himself at the elite level with the Ward fights (amoung others) not to mention having a fan friendly style. None of the threads you have bumped have furthered your cause. He was great for boxing and the division.

Fair enough if you believe he was a bully. You now have three fights where he was declared the loser to crank off too that should be enough rather than further spreading he was only a hype job.

What an absolute joke of a poster the one who bumped this is.

Beterbiev beated Kovalev twice in the amateurs, and believe me, if you think Alvarez KO was brutal, let's wait and see what a Beterbiev KO will look like on Kovalev.

Kovalev has a suspicious chin and no starmina.... just the opposite to Beterbiev.

Beterbiev by KO.

Grand_Cru54 wrote: ↑07 Aug 2018, 14:03 Beterbiev beated Kovalev twice in the amateurs, and believe me, if you think Alvarez KO was brutal, let's wait and see what a Beterbiev KO will look like on Kovalev.

Kovalev has a suspicious chin and no starmina.... just the opposite to Beterbiev.

Beterbiev by KO.

Maybe so, but Beterbiev is really wasting his career. And it might cost him big time.

Just 12 fights in a 5 year career. And only 2 bouts in the past 2 years.

He has a nothing matchup with unbeaten but unproven Callum Johnson scheduled in a few months.

At 33, Beterbiev should have already made his move. His talent may dissipate overnight.

I'd make him pick 'em with Kovalev. An underdog to Bivol.

Grand_Cru54 wrote: ↑07 Aug 2018, 14:03 Beterbiev beated Kovalev twice in the amateurs, and believe me, if you think Alvarez KO was brutal, let's wait and see what a Beterbiev KO will look like on Kovalev.

Kovalev has a suspicious chin and no starmina.... just the opposite to Beterbiev.

Beterbiev by KO.

Yea I would pick many LHW against 35 year old Kovalev who is obviously past his prime at 35 , peaked from age and big fights. I would pick prime Kovalev over Beterbiev.

One of the big differences between Kovalev and Beterbiev is Kovalev had a great pro career which is about done and Beterbiev never had a great pro career at age 33 pretty much a waste of a good talent.

Best fight I ever saw Beterbiev in was against Usyk in the Amateur and Usyk won that fight.

But you got me thinking, how about Beterbiev vs Alvarez..I would favor Alavarez.

Beterbiev would smash Kovalev at this point, however, when the fight was actually offered a cpl years back, Kovalev would've smashed Beterbiev. Artur doesn't deserve to be mentioned with Kovalev yet, neither does Stevenson. Sergey would still be undefeated if he had both Artur/Adonis' schedules, but he actually challenged himself and thus has the better career because of it.

Blodhemn wrote: ↑07 Aug 2018, 18:07 Beterbiev would smash Kovalev at this point, however, when the fight was actually offered a cpl years back, Kovalev would've smashed Beterbiev. Artur doesn't deserve to be mentioned with Kovalev yet, neither does Stevenson. Sergey would still be undefeated if he had both Artur/Adonis' schedules, but he actually challenged himself and thus has the better career because of it.

this is the crux of it for me. its a good test in general to do before trashing a guy after a loss

ask yourself, when comparing them to these other guys, if the fighter who lost would still have lost if he had taken on there opposition instead

kovalev would still crush everyone beterbievs fought. funny that this thread was raised as some type of lolz at kovalev. with so many fans a fighter is really better of just beating up trash then challenging themself. at least for me kovs stock went up more in being ultra competitive vs an atg like ward (i thought kov won first fight) then it did his good performances vs lesser opponents (and his other opponents are still way better then berts and pretty much most other lhws). but really, with how a lot of ppl have treated kov since, he wouldve been better off keeping his undefeated record by beating up scrubs like rico knoelling

jamamb wrote: ↑07 Aug 2018, 18:10 this is the crux of it for me. its a good test in general to do before trashing a guy after a loss

ask yourself, when comparing them to these other guys, if the fighter who lost would still have lost if he had taken on there opposition instead

kovalev would still crush everyone beterbievs fought. funny that this thread was raised as some type of lolz at kovalev. with so many fans a fighter is really better of just beating up trash then challenging themself. at least for me kovs stock went up more in being ultra competitive vs an atg like ward (i thought kov won first fight) then it did his good performances vs lesser opponents (and his other opponents are still way better then berts and pretty much most other lhws). but really, with how a lot of ppl have treated kov since, he wouldve been better off keeping his undefeated record by beating up scrubs like rico knoelling

Yeah, it's unjustly rewarding the path of least resistance. Kovalev peaked much higher than Artur and Adonis ever will. Their careers are nearing their ends as well, without facing top tier opponents with any regularity. Pretty much speaks for itself.

Boxing fans wonder why boxers/their teams don't take tough fights, then the same people throw fighters under a boss as soon as he loses.

Kovalev fought and stopped a number of top 10 light heavyweights, he unified 3 belts, he proved that he was a lethal finisher and could box to a decision, he arguably beat one of the top 5 p4p fighters of the decade in Andre Ward in their first fight. Now, at 35 and probably on the slide physically and mentally, all that is discarded because of a couple of stoppage losses?

One of the most stupid bumps I've ever seen.

ElJefe wrote: ↑08 Aug 2018, 13:02 Boxing fans wonder why boxers/their teams don't take tough fights, then the same people throw fighters under a boss as soon as he loses.

Kovalev fought and stopped a number of top 10 light heavyweights, he unified 3 belts, he proved that he was a lethal finisher and could box to a decision, he arguably beat one of the top 5 p4p fighters of the decade in Andre Ward in their first fight. Now, at 35 and probably on the slide physically and mentally, all that is discarded because of a couple of stoppage losses?

One of the most stupid bumps I've ever seen.

So did Jermaine Taylor. You don't hear anyone raving about his middleweight run.

Sergey Kovalev won't be facing Artur Beterbiev anytime soon. For a whole host of sporting and political reasons.

In fact, I'm fairly confident that this bout will never take place.

IKSRTFO wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 20:09

ewenhay wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 17:55

IKSRTFO wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 16:43Bump

Why are you bumping all the old Kovalev threads?

So people can stop having selective memory on how hyped this guy was.

The clearest memory you're creating is "remember that doofus that wouldn't stop bumping every goddamn Kovalev thread he could find? Man, what an A-hole."

his own memory is very selective too, totally ignoring all the talk there was of kov being a limited banger, how he was gonna lose to hopkins or be 50-50, how he was gonna totally gonna be outclassed and hardly win a round vs ward etc. i posted some examples of it and predictably it was ignored

i think kov made him feel bad about himself at some point, thats too bad