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Seems like the idea is to get there first with his own right hand to counter Floyd's lead right. Thoughts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro4yY_0f4S8

koolkc107 wrote:Seems like the idea is to get there first with his own right hand to counter Floyd's lead right. Thoughts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro4yY_0f4S8

I hope they think it is as simple as that. Roach recently said Floyd has never been taught to box correctly, and makes mistakes that they will capitalize on. All part of the hype. Roach making fun of Floyd Sr.'s speaking ability is funny too.

Its a good plan as long as Manny doesn't make any mistakes or have any flaws in his game.

Badhusker wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:Seems like the idea is to get there first with his own right hand to counter Floyd's lead right. Thoughts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro4yY_0f4S8

I hope they think it is as simple as that. Roach recently said Floyd has never been taught to box correctly, and makes mistakes that they will capitalize on. All part of the hype. Roach making fun of Floyd Sr.'s speaking ability is funny too.

Its a good plan as long as Manny doesn't make any mistakes or have any flaws in his game.

And Pacquiao has been taught to actually "box" correctly??? LOL to the Joke Coach Roach's claim.

Personally I see Manny as highly susceptible to the right hand and especially the right hand of Floyd's which is far faster than anyone else's he's faced and more accurate to boot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia00QxwfHxE

Once Mayweather figures out Manny's timing this fight will be a done deal, he has the reach advantage and he will be measuring him from outside, Pacquiao will do his little stutter step feint and then rush in to throw his combo only to be met by the counter right or the pull counter straight right from Floyd.

Watch the video I posted and see how these fighters landed on him basically at will, if they can do it then Mayweather will not only be able to do it also but he will do it with more frequency, accuracy and effectiveness at will.

This fight has never been about whether Floyd can land with the right hand anyway, has it? I think everyone who has watched more than 10 minutes of these guys knows Floyd will and always would land the right hand, at will. Its more about how Manny reacts to the right hand and if Manny can sustain a frenetic work rate to offset Floyd's superior boxing skills.... I think that's a more interesting question if it was posed 5 years ago, than today, but its still where the fight is won and lost.

Anyway, If you want to talk about specific punches I'd much rather find out peoples views on how quickly/ easily Manny will be frustrated by the jab to the body than anything else, because outside of the obvious right hand, the body jab has been a massive weapon for Floyd and I see it disrupting Manny's rhythm as much as anything else.

Floyd will want to jab to Manny's body, but it is a different proposition trying it on a southpaw.

Especially since Floyd likes to lower his head as he does it. Leaves too much time for a counter right hook.

My guess is Floyd will throw as many right hand leads to the body as he does jabs to the body.

Most of Floyd's jabs will be aimed upstairs.

koolkc107 wrote:Floyd will want to jab to Manny's body, but it is a different proposition trying it on a southpaw.

Especially since Floyd likes to lower his head as he does it. Leaves too much time for a counter right hook.

My guess is Floyd will throw as many right hand leads to the body as he does jabs to the body.

Most of Floyd's jabs will be aimed upstairs.

Actually, I think that's what he did vs Judah rather than the jab to body, so you are right. With Pacquaio squaring up as he does though any straight shots to the body are going to stop him in his tracks.

koolkc107 wrote:Floyd will want to jab to Manny's body, but it is a different proposition trying it on a southpaw.

Especially since Floyd likes to lower his head as he does it. Leaves too much time for a counter right hook.

My guess is Floyd will throw as many right hand leads to the body as he does jabs to the body.

Most of Floyd's jabs will be aimed upstairs.

good post

koolkc107 wrote:Seems like the idea is to get there first with his own right hand to counter Floyd's lead right. Thoughts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro4yY_0f4S8

he is training for....

if floyd uses his right cross, than pac ounters with his right hook

and he was training blocking floyds jab with his right forearm

that is basicly it, what i have seen from the vid

Counter-puncher wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:Floyd will want to jab to Manny's body, but it is a different proposition trying it on a southpaw.

Especially since Floyd likes to lower his head as he does it. Leaves too much time for a counter right hook.

My guess is Floyd will throw as many right hand leads to the body as he does jabs to the body.

Most of Floyd's jabs will be aimed upstairs.

good post

Right hands to the body FTW.

Datsue wrote:



Right hands to the body FTW.

It isn't like Floyd cannot jab to Pac's body- with his reach he should still be able get off a few of them from time to time.

But the straight right is less risky, easier to execute and will probably take even more out of Pac than the jab.

Can't understand what would lead you guys to think pacquaio will be standing in front of Floyd to be hit with so many rights, pacquaio will camp on Floyd's left shoulder negating his right, weapons are useless if you can't fire them, Floyd needs to do the same to pacquaios right shoulder

Pacmans plan for Floyds right hand......tuck his chin and absord....hes gonna eat em all night.

Pureist wrote:Can't understand what would lead you guys to think pacquaio will be standing in front of Floyd to be hit with so many rights, pacquaio will camp on Floyd's left shoulder negating his right, weapons are useless if you can't fire them, Floyd needs to do the same to pacquaios right shoulder

What makes you think Manny won't be standing right in front of Floyd? He did it with every other fighter he's faced which is why when you look at this video you can see he's getting tagged by them and they are all slower and less accurate than Mayweather and let's not forget that quite a few of them doesn't hit as hard as Floyd either.

When has Manny ever made any adjustments in his fights, look at the Algieri fight, what adjustment did he make from the Bradley fight to that fight or from the Rios fight to the Bradley fight? He fought basically the same way in all of his fights. You're right about one thing though, weapons are useless if you can't fire them, Manny needs to learn how to duck the straight right (he hasn't shown the ability to do that yet though).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia00QxwfHxE

Floyds lost a step. He's too slow. He'll taste the canvas in a carbon copy of when sugar shane got dropped. Feint/jab/straight left.

The body is what set up the first KD in JMM IV. The left to the body will make Pac cover and open up the right hand cleaner. FMJ will feint the right and dig the left. Then he will bring it to the temple. The right hand will then have its way.

But if Pac can land a shot like SSM did, he may be able to finish the job.

They will both be forced to go for the kill, unlike either has done recently, with the exception of Pac v JMM IV. I think we are in for that type of fight.

KBB wrote:

Pureist wrote:Can't understand what would lead you guys to think pacquaio will be standing in front of Floyd to be hit with so many rights, pacquaio will camp on Floyd's left shoulder negating his right, weapons are useless if you can't fire them, Floyd needs to do the same to pacquaios right shoulder

What makes you think Manny won't be standing right in front of Floyd? He did it with every other fighter he's faced which is why when you look at this video you can see he's getting tagged by them and they are all slower and less accurate than Mayweather and let's not forget that quite a few of them doesn't hit as hard as Floyd either.

When has Manny ever made any adjustments in his fights, look at the Algieri fight, what adjustment did he make from the Bradley fight to that fight or from the Rios fight to the Bradley fight? He fought basically the same way in all of his fights. You're right about one thing though, weapons are useless if you can't fire them, Manny needs to learn how to duck the straight right (he hasn't shown the ability to do that yet though).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia00QxwfHxE

He EVOLVED after JMM caught him

Floyds right hand

Hit him as hard as you can on the chin then see if he can throw it

Pureist wrote:He EVOLVED after JMM caught him

Apparently not, he was still getting hit with the same right hands over and over in the Algieri fight but I guess you didn't bother to look at the video and see it for yourself though, huh??

KBB wrote:

Pureist wrote:He EVOLVED after JMM caught him

Apparently not, he was still getting hit with the same right hands over and over in the Algieri fight but I guess you didn't bother to look at the video and see it for yourself though, huh??

Tanzio wrote:The body is what set up the first KD in JMM IV. The left to the body will make Pac cover and open up the right hand cleaner. FMJ will feint the right and dig the left. Then he will bring it to the temple. The right hand will then have its way.

But if Pac can land a shot like SSM did, he may be able to finish the job.

They will both be forced to go for the kill, unlike either has done recently, with the exception of Pac v JMM IV. I think we are in for that type of fight.

I think you are right. Hopefully they will bring out the best in each other, which will lead to one of them not finishing the fight. Pac has said God will decide who wins. I know who I am betting on.