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It's time Victorian punch counters had singing lessons

Posted: 20 Mar 2015, 11:27
by AntonS
So all of them belt-out a song in same key. One of them is bent on flat D.....e.g. Katsidis v Rafol 59/55
I suspect it's same opera supremo that scored number of 10/8 rounds in recent times, although no knockdowns.

Re: It's time Victorian punch counters had singing lessons

Posted: 26 Mar 2015, 00:03
by AntonS
My guess was spot on, but at least no 10/8 rounds without knockdown

Re: It's time Victorian punch counters had singing lessons

Posted: 27 Mar 2015, 01:00
by Scottb
The heading for this subject is misleading because a judge who is willing to give a 10/8 round without a knockdown could be commended.

Assuming the winner of the round was dominating by a large margin then a 10/8 is correct. From a health and safety point of view rewarding clear dominance is logical.

By extension if you could not score a round 10/8 without a knockdown then how could a referee stop a bout without a knockdown? There are no questions about the referee stepping in to end a bout as being reasonable.

Defining dominance is more subjective, however, if the referee is looking closely at stopping the bout because boxer "A" is copping punishment throughout a round without landing anything effective themselves, but, due to a fighting spirit and innate toughness does not go down 10/8 to boxer "B" for the round is justified. In fact 10/9 would not be a fair reward for boxer "B" given the punches scored in the round.

This is a general opinion as I do not know of the specific 10/8 round you are referring to in this thread but found the notion interesting and hope others more qualified than I might add tot he discussion. Possibly changing the thread title to "when is a 10/8 round justified" might be a good start.

Re: It's time Victorian punch counters had singing lessons

Posted: 27 Mar 2015, 01:07
by Like a Boss
Scottb wrote:The heading for this subject is misleading because a judge who is willing to give a 10/8 round without a knockdown could be commended.

Assuming the winner of the round was dominating by a large margin then a 10/8 is correct. From a health and safety point of view rewarding clear dominance is logical.

By extension if you could not score a round 10/8 without a knockdown then how could a referee stop a bout without a knockdown? There are no questions about the referee stepping in to end a bout as being reasonable.

Defining dominance is more subjective, however, if the referee is looking closely at stopping the bout because boxer "A" is copping punishment throughout a round without landing anything effective themselves, but, due to a fighting spirit and innate toughness does not go down 10/8 to boxer "B" for the round is justified. In fact 10/9 would not be a fair reward for boxer "B" given the punches scored in the round.

This is a general opinion as I do not know of the specific 10/8 round you are referring to in this thread but found the notion interesting and hope others more qualified than I might add tot he discussion. Possibly changing the thread title to "when is a 10/8 round justified" might be a good start.
Good post Scotty. I was of the thinking rounds could be scored 10/8 based on dominance, but without a knockdown, but thought I'd sit tight and not demonstrate my ignorance.

Re: It's time Victorian punch counters had singing lessons

Posted: 27 Mar 2015, 02:22
by AntonS
It appears Victoria has no scoring system. Each judge has his own.
Check scoring in McMahon vs Te Paa http://boxrec.com/show_display.php?show_id=488897
Had to insert the following 'cos I was continuously asked if typo.....Anton Sevsek : 60-48 is not an error

This topic refers to Katsidis' last fight