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Defense seems a bit porous

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqiyaWAh0yQ

I like the quotes in the clip. "Ten Ton" Tony's ringcraft was almost non-existent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYpJSQHMC00

^Full video of Galento vs Louis

Amazes me how Galento rocked Louis in the first round with a telegraphed left hook... Galento made Louis turn it into a dog fight, a tactic that almost got Galento the title.

HomicideHenry wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYpJSQHMC00

^Full video of Galento vs Louis

Amazes me how Galento rocked Louis in the first round with a telegraphed left hook... Galento made Louis turn it into a dog fight, a tactic that almost got Galento the title.

Man, check out how 'Two-Ton" Tony Galento nonchalantely just strolls into the ring in that old film.
The fat man was"As Cool as a Cucumber" as we use to say back in the old neighbourhood.
Also did any of you all even notice the"little person" in Joe Louis's corner at about 1:30 of the clip?

Old fashioned tough guy. They don't make 'em like that any more. Interesting article on him on Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Galento

Caractacus wrote:

HomicideHenry wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYpJSQHMC00

^Full video of Galento vs Louis

Amazes me how Galento rocked Louis in the first round with a telegraphed left hook... Galento made Louis turn it into a dog fight, a tactic that almost got Galento the title.

Man, check out how 'Two-Ton" Tony Galento nonchalantely just strolls into the ring in that old film.
The fat man was"As Cool as a Cucumber" as we use to say back in the old neighbourhood.
Also did any of you all even notice the"little person" in Joe Louis's corner at about 1:30 of the clip?

If you notice in the Marciano-Moore fight there was also a midget in Archie's corner. First time I noticed that was late at night on ESPN and I thought I was tripping and.... @ the "fat man" statement... I always considered Galento to be more like Wilson Fisk (The King Pin in the comics) who looked fat but was mostly all bulk under the padding. He was a very strong and powerful man. Appearances aside, Galento could fight for a long long time when necessary. He was far more conditioned than people realized. After all he fought Lou Nova for 14 rounds. Toughness only takes you so far, he had the conditioning to go with it. He just happened to have the body type like Don Cockell where you appeared soft--- when you were anything but.

Don't miss the Curt Gowdy interview with Galento and Louis and Don Dunphy - and listen to Dunphy announce the old Louis - Galento fight if you want to hear what a real boxing announcer is like, instead of the incompetent junk they have now! That interview must have been done in the 1970's. Galento passed away in 1979, Louis in 1981.

I read an old article somewhere that said he would get in a tank and wrestle an octopus. Didn't say how big it was, though.

orbtastic wrote:I read an old article somewhere that said he would get in a tank and wrestle an octopus. Didn't say how big it was, though.

Yeah,I think Galento fired his manager after he booked him for that gig.
The audience couldnt even see anything because of all the ink the Octopus squirted
at him while they were fighting in the tank.

orbtastic wrote:I read an old article somewhere that said he would get in a tank and wrestle an octopus. Didn't say how big it was, though.

For a couple of seconds I thought you meant a tank, like an army tank

x2x wrote:Don't miss the Curt Gowdy interview with Galento and Louis and Don Dunphy - and listen to Dunphy announce the old Louis - Galento fight if you want to hear what a real boxing announcer is like, instead of the incompetent junk they have now! That interview must have been done in the 1970's. Galento passed away in 1979, Louis in 1981.

Yeah,I remember that.
It was one of a series of programmes on PBS titled THE WAY IT WAS.
Where they showed film footage of famous world series games,football games and boxing
were they intewrviewed some of the athletes who had been part of it.
and what a blast to have watched that particular show back in 1976
You know watching old film footage of Joe Louis boxing on tv back then in the 1970's was extremly rare.
Plus he was still alive and wasnt yet suffering from his health problems.

palooka wrote:

orbtastic wrote:I read an old article somewhere that said he would get in a tank and wrestle an octopus. Didn't say how big it was, though.

For a couple of seconds I thought you meant a tank, like an army tank

from what I remember Galento defeated the giant octopus
by wrestling and biting it to death.
I dont think the city aquarium was too thrilled about that.

and did you know that during World War II,
Tony Galento hosted an Army Training self defense film short
called "Ju-Jap-Su"
I swear,
I havent seen it myself,but Ive heard about it so Im sure it still exists.
However perhaps due to the politically incorrect title,
the U.S Army may be suprressing the film.

WOW ! Short fat, wild swinging Galento had a 25 yr old Joe Louis eating left hooks.

Caractacus wrote:

x2x wrote:Don't miss the Curt Gowdy interview with Galento and Louis and Don Dunphy - and listen to Dunphy announce the old Louis - Galento fight if you want to hear what a real boxing announcer is like, instead of the incompetent junk they have now! That interview must have been done in the 1970's. Galento passed away in 1979, Louis in 1981.

Yeah,I remember that.
It was one of a series of programmes on PBS titled THE WAY IT WAS.
Where they showed film footage of famous world series games,football games and boxing
were they intewrviewed some of the athletes who had been part of it.
and what a blast to have watched that particular show back in 1976
You know watching old film footage of Joe Louis boxing on tv back then in the 1970's was extremly rare.
Plus he was still alive and wasnt yet suffering from his health problems.

Was that show from 1976? I didn't see a date on it, but that sounds about right. Galento didn't look healthy. He would have been 66. Well, he wasn't exactly into healthy eating and living...

"Galento, who claimed to be 5'9 (177 cm) tall, liked to weigh in at about 235 lb (107 kg) for his matches. He achieved this level of fitness by eating whatever, whenever he wanted. A typical meal for Galento consisted of six chickens, a side of spaghetti, all washed down with a half gallon of red wine, or beer, or both at one sitting. When he did go to training camp, he foiled his trainer's attempts to modify his diet, and terrorized his sparring partners by eating their meals in addition to his.

He was reputed to train on beer, and allegedly ate 52 hot dogs on a bet before facing heavyweight Arthur DeKuh. Galento was supposedly so bloated before the fight that the waist line of his trunks had to be slit for him to fit into them. Galento claimed that he was sluggish from the effects of eating all those hot dogs, and that he could not move for three rounds. Nevertheless, Galento knocked out the 6'3" (192 cm) DeKuh with one punch, a left hook, in the fourth round."

Louis was all messed up by 1976...

"Drugs took a toll on Louis in his later years. In 1969, he was hospitalized after collapsing on a New York City street. While the incident was at first credited to "physical breakdown,"[83] underlying problems would soon surface. In 1970, he spent five months at the Colorado Psychiatric Hospital and the Veterans Administration Hospital in Denver, hospitalized by his wife, Martha, and his son, Joe Louis Barrow Jr., for paranoia.[83] In a 1971 book, Brown Bomber, by Barney Nagler, Louis disclosed the truth about these incidents, stating that his collapse in 1969 had been caused by cocaine, and that his subsequent hospitalization had been prompted by his fear of a plot to destroy him.[83] Strokes and heart ailments caused Louis's condition to deteriorate further later in the decade. He had surgery to correct an aortic aneurysm in 1977 and thereafter used an Amigo POV/scooter for a mobility aid.[15][87]

Louis died of cardiac arrest in Desert Springs Hospital near Las Vegas on April 12, 1981, just hours after his last public appearance viewing the Larry Holmes-Trevor Berbick Heavyweight Championship..."


Italic quotes from Wikipedia.

Terrorised his sparring partners by eating their meals? the greedy swine.

Reminds me of Butterbean.

Galento gets a lot of flack . .clearly not a great fighter by any means, but Tony was no joke when on. He had quick hands and one punch power in his left hook. Also was tough/durable and would keep coming with his awkward style, which was hard to time (unlike modern short heavyweights, he was smart enough to make himself shorter by fighting from a crouch and not standing straight up and being a sitting duck for straight punches). Also, he knew every foul in the book.

dempseyfire wrote:Galento gets a lot of flack . .clearly not a great fighter by any means, but Tony was no joke when on. He had quick hands and one punch power in his left hook. Also was tough/durable and would keep coming with his awkward style, which was hard to time (unlike modern short heavyweights, he was smart enough to make himself shorter by fighting from a crouch and not standing straight up and being a sitting duck for straight punches). Also, he knew every foul in the book.

I saw the film of him fighting Joe Louis. The man was as tough as they come. He practically had to be dismembered to get him to stop fighting. I was thoroughly impressed with what he did and the way he did it. He fought a good number of times too.

DR.Dave wrote:Reminds me of Butterbean.

There is no comparison between the two men.

Galento was no fat man. His body was more in line with someone like Don Cockell. Muscle with a layer of fat.

Butterbean, at his best, was still 290+ pounds. Overall he's been anywhere from 320-400 pounds.

The major difference between the two: QUALITY OF OPPOSITION. Any one of the men Galento beaten would of kayoed the same men Butterbean did, and probably in far devestating fashion. Bean also knew his place, else he would of moved on from the four rounders--- else he would of fought better opponents after racking up 40, 50, 60, 70, etc. wins against bottom feeders. He never did, unless you count fighting Peter McNeeley and 50'something Larry Holmes in the ONE ten rounder he fought in.

Not that Bean was horrible, and not that he didn't hit hard. But there is no comparison between him and Galento.

I think Louis said it best (of him) in an interview. Louis said (more or less) that Galento's problem was that he was in the wrong era in history--- that he would of been world champion for sure and for a long time, had he existed in the days of Sullivan. Because Galento was all toughness, all roughness, and preferred his matches to be as bloody and gorey as possible. He wanted every match he was in turned into a dog fight, because that was the only way he was going to win. In essence, for being a "19th century man, in a 20th century world" he was one hell of a hoss to handle.

You must ask yourself, before making such comparisons... Could Butterbean of lasted eight rounds with Max Baer? Could Butterbean of beaten Lou Nova? Could Butterbean of dropped Joe Louis?

HomicideHenry wrote:

DR.Dave wrote:Reminds me of Butterbean.

There is no comparison between the two men.

Galento was no fat man. His body was more in line with someone like Don Cockell. Muscle with a layer of fat.

Butterbean, at his best, was still 290+ pounds. Overall he's been anywhere from 320-400 pounds.

The major difference between the two: QUALITY OF OPPOSITION. Any one of the men Galento beaten would of kayoed the same men Butterbean did, and probably in far devestating fashion. Bean also knew his place, else he would of moved on from the four rounders--- else he would of fought better opponents after racking up 40, 50, 60, 70, etc. wins against bottom feeders. He never did, unless you count fighting Peter McNeeley and 50'something Larry Holmes in the ONE ten rounder he fought in.

Not that Bean was horrible, and not that he didn't hit hard. But there is no comparison between him and Galento.

I think Louis said it best (of him) in an interview. Louis said (more or less) that Galento's problem was that he was in the wrong era in history--- that he would of been world champion for sure and for a long time, had he existed in the days of Sullivan. Because Galento was all toughness, all roughness, and preferred his matches to be as bloody and gorey as possible. He wanted every match he was in turned into a dog fight, because that was the only way he was going to win. In essence, for being a "19th century man, in a 20th century world" he was one hell of a hoss to handle.

You must ask yourself, before making such comparisons... Could Butterbean of lasted eight rounds with Max Baer? Could Butterbean of beaten Lou Nova? Could Butterbean of dropped Joe Louis?

I accept our criticism. I knew what you said about Galento was / is correct. The comparison I had in my mind was only of the size. Butterbean was a tough SOB too but not in the same league with Galento who fought real prizefights and did not have the sport tailored to his inadequacies for the freak show sales effect which the electronic media makes use of.