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Brook vs Thurman/Khan
Posted: 28 Mar 2015, 18:58
by crusader
Who would you pick to win these fights?
Re: Brook vs Thurman
Posted: 28 Mar 2015, 19:05
by Badhusker
I'm not sure on this one - great fight! I would favor Thurman to win by close UD if it goes the distance, or maybe KO midway. Honestly I have only seen both guys fight about 2 or 3 times, and am impressed with both. Thurman seems to be much better in the first half of the fight, but both have good enough skills and power to be a real challenge to anyone at welterweight.
I would favor Brook by close decision over Khan, and Thurman by KO over Khan. No way Khan could handle Thurman's big shots, imo.
Re: Brook vs Thurman/Khan
Posted: 28 Mar 2015, 19:09
by Fatsam
I think brook can find the shot to trouble khan and get the stoppage, against thurman it's very hard to call but i would love to see that fight.
Re: Brook vs Thurman/Khan
Posted: 28 Mar 2015, 19:31
by hurricanemitch14
I think Thurman wins hands down but I'd be very interested in the fight.....Brook looked good tho. Jo Jo Dan aint that good, so I'm not going to run around and start chanting Brook right now. Thurmans win over Guerrero is way more impressive than Brook's win over Porter or Dan.
I would like to see Brook ktfo Khan baddddddddddddddddddd!!!!!!
Re: Brook vs Thurman/Khan
Posted: 28 Mar 2015, 19:40
by brilo33
would like to see brook v khan. porter v thurman
Re: Brook vs Thurman/Khan
Posted: 28 Mar 2015, 19:40
by brilo33
brilo33 wrote:would like to see brook v khan. porter v thurman
and would go brook ko , porter points
Re: Brook vs Thurman/Khan
Posted: 29 Mar 2015, 12:30
by Badhusker
brilo33 wrote:brilo33 wrote:would like to see brook v khan. porter v thurman
and would go brook ko , porter points
For some reason, Brook, Porter, or Khan do not want to fight Thurman, with all having opportunities over the last year or two. Puzzling, but true. They all give different reasons why it would be better down the road. In other words, too high of a risk. At least Guerrero had the boys to take on Thurman. I think all three have a fair shot to beat Thurman if they are at their best. Guess there is time to wait since they are all relatively young still.
Re: Brook vs Thurman/Khan
Posted: 29 Mar 2015, 12:54
by CheckHook
Is it really that puzzling? Thurman is high risk, low reward. If you beat him people will be right here banging the drum about how he was unproven and rocked against Karass.... Thurman is in that sweet position of being able to call everyone out and not 'duck' anyone, simply because he doesn't bring as much to the table as the rest of those guys at the top. He's a fighter with a big punch and tons of range, who doesn't have a world title and doesn't bring much money to the table, he's absolute poison right now.
As for the topic, I think Brook vs Thurman would be probably one of the most interesting/ exciting fights in the division, or any division for that matter. I think both guys are hungry for success and both guys have attributes that would/ should concern the other. I think Thurman would be a marginal favourite over Brook, but Brook is a huge welter with legit power and great angles. He's not what people are use to facing or would expect, so Thurman could easily find himself in trouble. The fight has the potential to be a classic, but equally wouldn't surprise me if either man got caught cold.
Thurman vs Khan seems a bit more clear cut, in that if Thurman catches Khan, which is likely, then Khan is getting stopped. Would be interesting to see how Thurman coped with Khan, but I think stylistically its a terrible fight for Khan and one he would be wise to avoid until there is a lot more money in it.
Re: Brook vs Thurman/Khan
Posted: 29 Mar 2015, 18:00
by Badhusker
Actually not puzzling at all. Most of these guys seem to carefully weigh the risks of getting beat to keep them out of a big money fight. For that reason I look forward to Pac and May retiring so they can't use t hat excuse. Mainly Khan I'm talking about but the shoe fits others too.
Re: Brook vs Thurman/Khan
Posted: 29 Mar 2015, 19:33
by ReggieDiggs
I don't like Kell in either. I think the new & improved Amir who fights to his strengths & doesn't get involved in the trenches beats Kell. And I think Keith is more adaptable & hits harder than Kell. He's also been more battle tested than Kell. Kell still gots a lot of questions on him. Either fight is a tough one to win for Kell imho.
Re: Brook vs Thurman/Khan
Posted: 29 Mar 2015, 21:41
by hurricanemitch14
I dont see a difference in khan. He still lunges in and throws combos. He hasnt faced a puncher to chin check him again. He will soon and he'll get ko'd again.
Re: Brook vs Thurman/Khan
Posted: 30 Mar 2015, 00:34
by Marky_Marc
CheckHook wrote:Is it really that puzzling? Thurman is high risk, low reward. If you beat him people will be right here banging the drum about how he was unproven and rocked against Karass.... Thurman is in that sweet position of being able to call everyone out and not 'duck' anyone, simply because he doesn't bring as much to the table as the rest of those guys at the top. He's a fighter with a big punch and tons of range, who doesn't have a world title and doesn't bring much money to the table, he's absolute poison right now.
As for the topic, I think Brook vs Thurman would be probably one of the most interesting/ exciting fights in the division, or any division for that matter. I think both guys are hungry for success and both guys have attributes that would/ should concern the other. I think Thurman would be a marginal favourite over Brook, but Brook is a huge welter with legit power and great angles. He's not what people are use to facing or would expect, so Thurman could easily find himself in trouble. The fight has the potential to be a classic, but equally wouldn't surprise me if either man got caught cold.
Thurman vs Khan seems a bit more clear cut, in that if Thurman catches Khan, which is likely, then Khan is getting stopped. Would be interesting to see how Thurman coped with Khan, but I think stylistically its a terrible fight for Khan and one he would be wise to avoid until there is a lot more money in it.
Nailed it.
I would put Thurman at the top of this list. His performance against Robert Guerrero was exceptional. If he fights the same way against Brook, I think it's slightly closer but comfortable for Thurman. However, you never know in boxing!
I think most of us believe if Khan steps in with Thurman he is gone. If Khan was fighting Maidana today for the first time, most of us would expect him to be KO'd....but he survived!!
You just never know with boxing that's why it's such a fascinating sport.
Re: Brook vs Thurman/Khan
Posted: 30 Mar 2015, 01:01
by ReggieDiggs
hurricanemitch14 wrote:I dont see a difference in khan. He still lunges in and throws combos. He hasnt faced a puncher to chin check him again. He will soon and he'll get ko'd again.
The difference to me is he's not getting into these aggressive back & forth wannabe some fake ass Arturo Gatti kinda exchanges. He's always been a fast in & out guy so no there is no difference there, its just that he hasn't been doing the silly stuff thats counterproductive to his skills.
And tbf I am curious how he does with someone with some pop cuz he hasn't fought that guy at 147 yet. Maybe he gets flattened again, but for now I'm leaning towards him being a better more fruitful boxer in the ring with these current tactics he's using.