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I know this may seem trivial to some, and i'm just putting it out there. The vic state title belts presented at Malvern just looked like WBC 'regular generic belts'. I sorta feel we can do better than that.
I remember the old Aussie belts, they were uniquely Australian. Would love to see the return of the old belts where they didn't cover 2/3rds of the chest and stomache area and looked vaguely Australian.

Grant its a very valid point you make, It could certainly bring some sort of [credibility/recognition] back to being a Australian champion
the national tittle belt's could all be the exact make so the colour could be for example :idea: green/gold or red/black/yellow [only joking]
the national tittle has be walked all over for year's, Well since all these regional belt's came in and the silly rule that states you can only hold
the national tittle if you don't hold a regional belt [PABA/IBF PAN PACIFIC/OPBF/WBC ASIA......ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC this list could go on and on
how about making the rule you cannot fight for a regional belt until you'v held a national tittle first or something along those lines
there's got to be a better system their's some fighter's going around calling themselves 2 time Australian champions when the fact is their not even in the top 5 best fighter in their weight class.......
Vic Patrick would be turning in his grave

First of all, good to be back on the forums, and hoping the comeback post rocks!!!

Clive/Grant, I absolutely agree with you sendiments. I am a Brit in Sydney and as such can only comment on this from my perspective as a Europeon. I would like to follow up on some of what you (Clive) has commented on.

'the national tittle has be walked all over for year's,'

Totally agreed. Being Australian Champion seems to me to not hold as much clout as it would a Brit winning the British title. The British title is always viewed by a boxer just joining the pro ranks as a nessary stepping stone to start making it to the regional and international titles. For example, the belt is held in such high regard in the UK that the domestic no 1 and 2 will risk their undefeated records to show who is the UK number 1 as a launch pad to the commonwealth, then europeon and eventually world honours. The Aussie title does'nt have that kind of risk all about it.

'Well since all these regional belt's came in and the silly rule that states you can only hold the national tittle if you don't hold a regional belt [PABA/IBF PAN PACIFIC/OPBF/WBC ASIA......ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC this list could go on and on how about making the rule you cannot fight for a regional belt until you'v held a national tittle first or something along those lines'

Very difficult to police, but like the idea! This is a very subjective business and one which I would not like to administrator nor control. So we have a scenerio at LHW lets say. Fighter A holds the Australian Title but is a bit protected by his management and generally pants, Fighter B is the no 1 contender who has beaten all before him and needs to advance, the OPBF title has come up and Fighter A who has the no1 contender to that title gets offered the shot but him and his management collectively poo their pants and don't want to take it as they know their champ is going to get slaughtered! Fighter B lets say is the no 2 contender for that title, and the OPBF want to give him the shot. What happens? Who over-rules who?
Ahh, bit difficult to police that rule now is'nt it? But like the idea!!!


'there's got to be a better system their's some fighter's going around calling themselves 2 time Australian champions when the fact is their not even in the top 5 best fighter in their weight class.......
Vic Patrick would be turning in his grave'Yup!! We know what the problem is, the majority of the posters on this board knows what the problem is.

My view is not the fighters, name me one fighter who has started as a pro does'nt think of becoming national champion. I blame promotors for going for the cash for them and their fighters. The Australian title does'nt mean anything because of politics in Australia and asia, we have a ton of stupid titles to go for instaed. In europe only one regional title matters - The EBU Europeon title, all others like the WBO euro title are worthless junk.

Hope my first post in over a year is worthy!!!
Andrew

Great posts guys That's what forums are about & not hanging shite on each other

ra2006 wrote:First of all, good to be back on the forums, and hoping the comeback post rocks!!!

Clive/Grant, I absolutely agree with you sendiments. I am a Brit in Sydney and as such can only comment on this from my perspective as a Europeon. I would like to follow up on some of what you (Clive) has commented on.

'the national tittle has be walked all over for year's,'

Totally agreed. Being Australian Champion seems to me to not hold as much clout as it would a Brit winning the British title. The British title is always viewed by a boxer just joining the pro ranks as a nessary stepping stone to start making it to the regional and international titles. For example, the belt is held in such high regard in the UK that the domestic no 1 and 2 will risk their undefeated records to show who is the UK number 1 as a launch pad to the commonwealth, then europeon and eventually world honours. The Aussie title does'nt have that kind of risk all about it.

'Well since all these regional belt's came in and the silly rule that states you can only hold the national tittle if you don't hold a regional belt [PABA/IBF PAN PACIFIC/OPBF/WBC ASIA......ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC this list could go on and on how about making the rule you cannot fight for a regional belt until you'v held a national tittle first or something along those lines'

Very difficult to police, but like the idea! This is a very subjective business and one which I would not like to administrator nor control. So we have a scenerio at LHW lets say. Fighter A holds the Australian Title but is a bit protected by his management and generally pants, Fighter B is the no 1 contender who has beaten all before him and needs to advance, the OPBF title has come up and Fighter A who has the no1 contender to that title gets offered the shot but him and his management collectively poo their pants and don't want to take it as they know their champ is going to get slaughtered! Fighter B lets say is the no 2 contender for that title, and the OPBF want to give him the shot. What happens? Who over-rules who?
Ahh, bit difficult to police that rule now is'nt it? But like the idea!!!


'there's got to be a better system their's some fighter's going around calling themselves 2 time Australian champions when the fact is their not even in the top 5 best fighter in their weight class.......
Vic Patrick would be turning in his grave'Yup!! We know what the problem is, the majority of the posters on this board knows what the problem is.

My view is not the fighters, name me one fighter who has started as a pro does'nt think of becoming national champion. I blame promotors for going for the cash for them and their fighters. The Australian title does'nt mean anything because of politics in Australia and asia, we have a ton of stupid titles to go for instaed. In europe only one regional title matters - The EBU Europeon title, all others like the WBO euro title are worthless junk.

Hope my first post in over a year is worthy!!!
Andrew

Thanks mate, I'm glad we got you back and gotta say I do agree and say it's not the fighter's fault it's more like the system here in Australia
when it comes to the aussie/regional belt rule most young aussie fighter's win it[Australian tittle] sooner rather than later so they can then go on to the PABA/OPBF ETC.....and you can't blame them it gets some a world rating and that meens more money for the fighter and thats what the purpose is I guess at the end of the day that's what these brave warrior's step in the ring for is to better their life and their family's they deserve
every sent they earn and some, and it's probably almost impossible to police any rule around who fight's for what belt and who qualifies ETC.....
I'm glad you mentioned the British tittle and how it's held in high regard in the UK what's the rule on the Lonsdale belt how do you get to hold one :?? we could even try something like that here so the top fighter's in each weight class sometime's fight each other for our own version of the Lonsdale belt.