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We've all gotten used to FMJ's attitude heading into PPV events. He's pushed his greatness and lifestyle in our face, clearly trying to make the world despise him enough to pay money to see him lose. But where is that attitude now? Now that he's in the biggest fight of his or anyone else's life? Is it because this fight sold itself? Was it all an act to sell PPV in the past? Are we now seeing the real Floyd? Now that he doesn't have to play the Villain to sell the fight?

I'm not sure if this is a good sign for Manny Fans or a bad one. Does this leave Floyd more focus for the fight or does this role take away that chip he has always had on his shoulder as the bad guy?

Why do you think Floyd's camp is so quiet for the fight? Do you feel that this benefits Floyd or Manny?

to be honest I think your right, even if Floyd did play the bad guy for this fight it wouldn't sell it anymore than all the waiting and the hype around it already has done.

this is the fight everyone was begging for a few years back and even though that's not the case now its still one of the most anticipated fights at the moment, plus I think deep down Floyd respects Manny to the extent that he will prepare fully for this fight, not only to defend his undefeated record but to prove that he is the best in the division today and I think Manny is the only man who can really pose a serious threat to him right now.

I'm a Manny fan and I think he'll beat Floyd and break that undefeated streak once and for all but as quiet as both men have been its actually making it more tense as the fight draws near

Its not like there hasn't been smack talking for 5 straight years, so like Floyd said, the talking is done. Its time to prove who is best in the ring. At 38 or 36 you can get old overnight, but at least Manny has the slight age advantage. I am ready to give full credit to who ever wins, and that said would be shocked though if Manny won. Floyd has too many tools and ring smarts to lose to a guy that will have to lunge in and stretch way out to connect like Manny does. Even if hurt Floyd has shown he knows how to survive and come back stronger.

I think Floyd will start more aggressively than normal, and stop Manny in his tracks with some big shots. He knows he is at risk of losing if it goes to the cards, so he will at least attempt to end it before then. Even from a non-expert view it seems that Manny's feet stop moving telegraphing his shots, and also squares up too often when he gets in close. His work-rate will be his key, but it will go down once he starts getting timed. Floyd exposing Manny badly and stopping him won't surprise me. Manny beating Floyd by any means will.

If it goes to the cards, look for the judges to keep it close enough so there is a rematch. I do think they are both facing their last opponent, rematch or not. This fight will take a lot out of both guys.

You must not Youtube.

Floyd Sr is saying sh!t every other day & apparently has turned into a 1980's rapper with all his rhyming. Granted this time around Freddie is talking more then ever so its drowned out a bit.

Floyd rarely talks, but he did do some big interview/look at all the cool sh!t I own thing with that idiot from ESPN who's always arguing with that other idiot from ESPN about Floyd vs Manny. Plus he did something with Katey Couric ffs.

Theres a ton of sh!t going on if you're looking for it.

caldo2025 wrote:We've all gotten used to FMJ's attitude heading into PPV events. He's pushed his greatness and lifestyle in our face, clearly trying to make the world despise him enough to pay money to see him lose. But where is that attitude now? Now that he's in the biggest fight of his or anyone else's life? Is it because this fight sold itself? Was it all an act to sell PPV in the past? Are we now seeing the real Floyd? Now that he doesn't have to play the Villain to sell the fight?

I'm not sure if this is a good sign for Manny Fans or a bad one. Does this leave Floyd more focus for the fight or does this role take away that chip he has always had on his shoulder as the bad guy?

Why do you think Floyd's camp is so quiet for the fight? Do you feel that this benefits Floyd or Manny?

Judging on the things I have seen and heard regarding Floyd lately is that he has been showing more maturity in his past few bouts, I can remember a point where he even calmed his dad down in the ring at the end of the Guerrero fight, not only that he does realize that this is the type of fight that sells itself.

As far as his psyche is concerned it is being reported that he has stripped himself all the way back down to his bare basics and doing things that he didn't necessarily do in previous bouts for fights (he's chopping wood again, he hadn't done that in years), he said "I'd never wanted to win a fight so badly" and if this stripping of oneself and going all the way back to the basics isn't enough of an indication of how serious he is then I'm not sure what to say.

In sparring he has been in beast mode, knocking down or out many of his sparring partners, they say he is hitting harder than he ever has (which means he's setting down on his shots), this is a great indication that at some point he plans to walk down Manny going for the body (as it has been rumored his sparring stoppages have been on bodyshots).

I think they are quiet because they know they don't need to talk and they do not want any indication of what the plans will be on how to fight Pacquiao.

KBB wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:We've all gotten used to FMJ's attitude heading into PPV events. He's pushed his greatness and lifestyle in our face, clearly trying to make the world despise him enough to pay money to see him lose. But where is that attitude now? Now that he's in the biggest fight of his or anyone else's life? Is it because this fight sold itself? Was it all an act to sell PPV in the past? Are we now seeing the real Floyd? Now that he doesn't have to play the Villain to sell the fight?

I'm not sure if this is a good sign for Manny Fans or a bad one. Does this leave Floyd more focus for the fight or does this role take away that chip he has always had on his shoulder as the bad guy?

Why do you think Floyd's camp is so quiet for the fight? Do you feel that this benefits Floyd or Manny?

Judging on the things I have seen and heard regarding Floyd lately is that he has been showing more maturity in his past few bouts, I can remember a point where he even calmed his dad down in the ring at the end of the Guerrero fight, not only that he does realize that this is the type of fight that sells itself.

As far as his psyche is concerned it is being reported that he has stripped himself all the way back down to his bare basics and doing things that he didn't necessarily do in previous bouts for fights (he's chopping wood again, he hadn't done that in years), he said "I'd never wanted to win a fight so badly" and if this stripping of oneself and going all the way back to the basics isn't enough of an indication of how serious he is then I'm not sure what to say.

In sparring he has been in beast mode, knocking down or out many of his sparring partners, they say he is hitting harder than he ever has (which means he's setting down on his shots), this is a great indication that at some point he plans to walk down Manny going for the body (as it has been rumored his sparring stoppages have been on bodyshots).

I think they are quiet because they know they don't need to talk and they do not want any indication of what the plans will be on how to fight Pacquiao.

Or he knows that he doesn't have to try to sell this fight because it sells itself. Mayweather has always been a hard worker, and I don't believe he is training harder than in any other fight.

big train express wrote: Or he knows that he doesn't have to try to sell this fight because it sells itself.

Or there is a TON of sh!t on Youtube. You guys just ain't paying attention. There are mfers camping out at Mayweathers Gym ffs. There is a TON of sh!t to view about this fight.

Floyd rarely talks during training camps so him being quiet outside of a Fight.Hype video or three is nothing new, but this time he's done a 20-25min ESPN interview with that goofy ass looking guy who argues with that other goofy ass looking guy for the past 6 years about Floyd & Manny & talked to Katy Couric. What the sh!t. Floyd don't usually do 20min ESPN lifestyles of the rich & famous type interviews or talks to Katy Couric. He's doing MORE sh!t to a wider audience then usually it seems.

big train express wrote:Or he knows that he doesn't have to try to sell this fight because it sells itself. Mayweather has always been a hard worker, and I don't believe he is training harder than in any other fight.

I agree that he has always been a hard worker but I saw him in a video where they showed him chopping wood and he was asked "why was he chopping wood" and he said "it is something that I've always loved to do" but we have never seen him chopping wood before and he made another quote that went something like this "I'm just going back to where it all started" or words to that effect.

To me this indicates that Mayweather hadn't chopped wood in a long time and that there were many other things that he did when he initially started out doing way back when that he was no longer using in his training but have now since gotten back to doing in preparation for this fight.

They showed his bodyguards dragging two huge logs out of a van for him to start working on.

I can't consider Floyd camp quiet from all the videos and news you can browse all day.. but comparing it from the others, yeah there is a little drop.
As for the good sign or bad sign, I feel its in Manny's camp which will can tell the better sign. Conditioning aside, I prefer to hear the tactics Roach is planning to put against Floyd's patented grab and grapple, shrug off nifty elbows off the breaks.
But overall, I love the drop of loudness in Floyd's camp.. It just means less drama and more boxing.

Floyd doesnt NEED to sell this...that's why he's not bothering. He know it sells itself. If you guys havent noticed yet, Floyd is not the villain he portrays himself to be to sell most of his fights that need to be sold. Sure he may slap up a woman or 2 but the old bad boy persona is a complete joke. The guy is a businessman who happens to be a wonderfully gifted athlete. He doesnt do drugs, he doesnt drink, he works his balls off in the gym 24-7, he knows the bad boy BS is what sells to the simple-minded masses, particularly combat sport fans who by and large, arent the sharpest knives in the drawer socially.

Because that humble pie is already looking more than he can eat

To me this indicates that Mayweather hadn't chopped wood in a long time and that there were many other things that he did when he initially started out doing way back when that he was no longer using in his training but have now since gotten back to doing in preparation for this fight.

I did see Floyd chopping wood and to me, it meant that the Floyd's focus would be power instead of speed in this camp. Which basically means that Floyd is going for the KO. Everyone thinks that Manny can be knocked out easily since JMM pulled the lucky hail mary out of nowhere to put his lights out. Algieri and Bradley gave round after round away looking for the knockout banking on Manny's chin being compromised to no avail. Horrible strategies. Manny's chin is nails, like it has always been, so if Floyd's focus is the KO, it could come at the expense of some rounds which are way too valuable to give in a fight like this. Floyd's too smart for that though or is he?

Manny hates the body shot. You can see it in every fight that he bites down hard, slaps his gloves together after every body blow. Not a bad focus for Floyd IMO. But the punch that will win this fight for Floyd is that Superman studder straight right that he scores at will on most orthodox fighters. Against a southpaw, this punch is going to be gold for him. Can't see Manny getting around this punch or a solid body attack. Just can't see it. I hope i do but i just can't see Floyd losing this fight.

If Pacquiao comes out fast, with that upper body movement like he used to have, he has a good shot of catching Floyd cold with a big shot. Floyd starts slow, dresses his opponent down before he gets to breakin' him down.That first round should tell a lot.

SFW wrote:If Pacquiao comes out fast, with that upper body movement like he used to have, he has a good shot of catching Floyd cold with a big shot. Floyd starts slow, dresses his opponent down before he gets to breakin' him down.That first round should tell a lot.

Why would first round tell a lot? Floyd always starts slow as he gets his timing down and sizes up his opponent.

Jump on Floyd before he gets settled into a rythem and gets his timing, perfect time to make early inroads

KBB wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:We've all gotten used to FMJ's attitude heading into PPV events. He's pushed his greatness and lifestyle in our face, clearly trying to make the world despise him enough to pay money to see him lose. But where is that attitude now? Now that he's in the biggest fight of his or anyone else's life? Is it because this fight sold itself? Was it all an act to sell PPV in the past? Are we now seeing the real Floyd? Now that he doesn't have to play the Villain to sell the fight?

I'm not sure if this is a good sign for Manny Fans or a bad one. Does this leave Floyd more focus for the fight or does this role take away that chip he has always had on his shoulder as the bad guy?

Why do you think Floyd's camp is so quiet for the fight? Do you feel that this benefits Floyd or Manny?

Judging on the things I have seen and heard regarding Floyd lately is that he has been showing more maturity in his past few bouts, I can remember a point where he even calmed his dad down in the ring at the end of the Guerrero fight, not only that he does realize that this is the type of fight that sells itself.

As far as his psyche is concerned it is being reported that he has stripped himself all the way back down to his bare basics and doing things that he didn't necessarily do in previous bouts for fights (he's chopping wood again, he hadn't done that in years), he said "I'd never wanted to win a fight so badly" and if this stripping of oneself and going all the way back to the basics isn't enough of an indication of how serious he is then I'm not sure what to say.

In sparring he has been in beast mode, knocking down or out many of his sparring partners, they say he is hitting harder than he ever has (which means he's setting down on his shots), this is a great indication that at some point he plans to walk down Manny going for the body (as it has been rumored his sparring stoppages have been on bodyshots).

I think they are quiet because they know they don't need to talk and they do not want any indication of what the plans will be on how to fight Pacquiao.

Brut, sounds like Mayweather is over training.

I'll tell you why cuz Floyd doesn't wanna piss Manny off, he's thinking Manny will take it easy if no trash talk.

Seriously I think Floyd is just trying to focus he knows Manny can light his ass up at any moment so he needs to be sharper than ever for this one.

I'm sure Floyd will be back to his annoying self after the fight shiit maybe even more so if he wins.

MachoTime wrote:Brut, sounds like Mayweather is over training.

I don't think so, if anything it sounds as though he was not training up to the potential that he once did long ago. Notice how he stated "I had to go back to the basics". That should tell us that he abandoned chopping wood or maybe even abandoned other things that he used to do long ago because he felt as though he didn't need them to beat certain fighters or that he just didn't see that he needed this type of training at all because he could win using his skills solely.

diddy wrote:

SFW wrote:If Pacquiao comes out fast, with that upper body movement like he used to have, he has a good shot of catching Floyd cold with a big shot. Floyd starts slow, dresses his opponent down before he gets to breakin' him down.That first round should tell a lot.

Why would first round tell a lot? Floyd always starts slow as he gets his timing down and sizes up his opponent.

Because that is when he is vulnerable. And that chin is still cold, untouched. The only way Manny's power can really suprise him is the shot he isn't ready for.

I noticed that MW seemed to show Manny a lot of respect to when ever they meet instead of his usual flamboyant (polite version lol) style and like you say MW has been very low key can only mean one thing which could be bad news for the Manny camp.

Floyd is confident that he is faster than Manny. He knows he is a better boxer and a smarter fighter. Unfortunately there's more to it than that, a puncher can change a fight at anytime. Manny doesn't KO guys but he can still punch. This is going to be a great fight.