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It is great news for the sport of boxing.

If the main event Boxers show up as advertised and don't pull out before the fights. Chances for success are great.

Good to see. I think all the NBC cards have trended high on Twitter too for what that's worth.

The ratings are good ...but how many will come back? Lets not pretend that last nights action really did a great job of selling the sport. There were some amazing moments but also a lot of frustration as a viewer and I can imagine some who saw the show thinking twice about tuning in in the future.

Boxing Prospect wrote:The ratings are good ...but how many will come back? Lets not pretend that last nights action really did a great job of selling the sport. There were some amazing moments but also a lot of frustration as a viewer and I can imagine some who saw the show thinking twice about tuning in in the future.

You must not know how sports work. Sometimes there great, sometimes there okay & sometimes they suck. Or sometimes the Super Bowl still sucks. Thats kinda how watching sports work. As long as you hype the sport & put top guys in the ring with each other it'll work out cuz humans are some simple mfers who enjoy seeing people involved in physical drama & boxing is nothing if not physical drama. This mindset where every fight gots to be Arturo Gatti vs Mickey Ward isn't correct.

I for one seem to see PBC broadcasts as focusing less on the negative than say HBO & ESPN2 do which I think alone is a great direction to be going in. I've been saying for years you can't sh!t on the product you are selling & want people to watch & expect them not to feel like they're making a bad decision watching it & driving them away. Boxing has done a wonderful job of turning off fans, casual & hardcore, with this strategy. Its no easy task to change it, but so far so good. I am hopeful about boxings future like I've never been before, which probably ain't saying much, cuz boxings future hasn't ever seemed that terrific since I've been watching it.

ReggieDiggs wrote:

Boxing Prospect wrote:The ratings are good ...but how many will come back? Lets not pretend that last nights action really did a great job of selling the sport. There were some amazing moments but also a lot of frustration as a viewer and I can imagine some who saw the show thinking twice about tuning in in the future.

You must not know how sports work. Sometimes there great, sometimes there okay & sometimes they suck. Or sometimes the Super Bowl still sucks. Thats kinda how watching sports work. As long as you hype the sport & put top guys in the ring with each other it'll work out cuz humans are some simple mfers who enjoy seeing people involved in physical drama & boxing is nothing if not physical drama. This mindset where every fight gots to be Arturo Gatti vs Mickey Ward isn't correct.

Sometimes they are great sometimes they are awful...but sadly when the fans have been getting things like 8 rounds of Lee and Quillin standing off, Peterson avoiding a fight, Broner fighting a punch bag...you can understand fans not coming back in a hurry. Not every fight has to be a war, but when fighters are posing as opposed to punching there may be an issue. The crowd weren't booing because they wanted a war, they just didn't want to see two fighting THAT scared of each other.

I suspect changes will be made to shift that in the future with bonuses being offered for a FOTN or KO of the night or something. But fans won't stick around if they keep see "fights" that aren't...well "fights"

As for the super bowl comment, sorry but that's frankly ridiculous. An event that comes around once a year is easier to sell than something that is saturating the market. A Champions league final, a world cup final or the Olympic 100m final are the same, they don't come around often enough to bore fans, either the hardcore or casual. They are "special" events. Not a weekly/monthly thing. People have short term memories and a year is a long damned time, a couple of weeks isn't long.

Boxing Prospect wrote:I suspect changes will be made to shift that in the future with bonuses being offered for a FOTN or KO of the night or something.

This is a good idea regardless of anything going on with PBC or anyone else & I've been on board forever. Oscar did it once(?, I think only once anyway). Basically with how horribly ran boxing has been for the last couple decades them doing everything they can steal from the UFC would be a good start in a very positive direction for marketing the sport to fans. FOTN/KO bonuses. Fighters should have a Show/Win contract (ie if you lose you ain't getting paid as much). There should be Fan Q&A's whenever a big fight is happening. Boxing has been marketed towards tired from a long day of work 44 year olds since I've been watching it. They need to embrace the younger audience & say f#ck all these grumpy old f#cks complaining all the time.

As for the super bowl comment, sorry but that's frankly ridiculous. An event that comes around once a year is easier to sell than something that is saturating the market. A Champions league final, a world cup final or the Olympic 100m final are the same, they don't come around often enough to bore fans, either the hardcore or casual. They are "special" events. Not a weekly/monthly thing. People have short term memories and a year is a long damned time, a couple of weeks isn't long.

Thats silly. Of course the Super Bowl sucks sometimes. If Floyd vs Manny can suck, then why can't the Super Bowl? Why can't the World Cup final suck? Why can't the NBA Finals game 7 suck? Sports can suck brother. Any particular person's likes or dislikes can play into it. How those events are hyped can play into it. But there is no such thing as a sporting event that can't suck though. Thats why sh!t is so great when it doesn't suck.

In terms of the quality of the fights last night's PBC card was by far the best one yet. Two close, competitive fights between world class boxers. Much better than the one-sided blowouts on last Saturday's card or the Broner-Thurman one-sided wins.

ReggieDiggs wrote:

Boxing Prospect wrote:I suspect changes will be made to shift that in the future with bonuses being offered for a FOTN or KO of the night or something.

This is a good idea regardless of anything going on with PBC or anyone else & I've been on board forever. Oscar did it once(?, I think only once anyway). Basically with how horribly ran boxing has been for the last couple decades them doing everything they can steal from the UFC would be a good start in a very positive direction for marketing the sport to fans. FOTN/KO bonuses. Fighters should have a Show/Win contract (ie if you lose you ain't getting paid as much). There should be Fan Q&A's whenever a big fight is happening. Boxing has been marketed towards tired from a long day of work 44 year olds since I've been watching it. They need to embrace the younger audience & say f#ck all these grumpy old f#cks complaining all the time.

As for the super bowl comment, sorry but that's frankly ridiculous. An event that comes around once a year is easier to sell than something that is saturating the market. A Champions league final, a world cup final or the Olympic 100m final are the same, they don't come around often enough to bore fans, either the hardcore or casual. They are "special" events. Not a weekly/monthly thing. People have short term memories and a year is a long damned time, a couple of weeks isn't long.

Thats silly. Of course the Super Bowl sucks sometimes. If Floyd vs Manny can suck, then why can't the Super Bowl? Why can't the World Cup final suck? Why can't the NBA Finals game 7 suck? Sports can suck brother. Any particular person's likes or dislikes can play into it. How those events are hyped can play into it. But there is no such thing as a sporting event that can't suck though. Thats why sh!t is so great when it doesn't suck.

Not saying they can't suck, just the people remember it as an event and will tune whether the last one sucked or note. They are one offs that that draw in a huge casual appeal because they are special. Doesn't matter how dull they are they will always draw people in. If the Superbowl sucks you've forgotten how much it sucked the next time it comes around. If boxing sucks, you remember it the next time it comes on if it's on weekly.

I agree with the suggestions on how to improve things though There is a show on in Japan on May 31st and they are offering staggered KO bonuses which I like the idea of and can see their appeal

Almost everything PBC have been doing has been positive, most of the boxers participating have fought to an acceptable standard.

Among the worst was Broner v Molina because Molina was so inactive but Broner came to fight and the match up on paper looked promising.
On the same card Mares v Santo Reyes was ok but over ruled by a superb main event in Thurman v Guerrero.

In what looked like a questionable match up between two out of shape Heavyweights in Arreola v Harper turned out to be a barnburner of a fight while on the same card the Porter v Bone and Berto v Lopez fights were entertaining.

For some time Lamont Peterson ran against Danny Garcia which was frustrating but it opened up later.
Quillin v Lee had many stand offs with little action yet it was surprisingly appealing considering how few punches were thrown at times.
Yet the anticipation of what would happen should either of them land was worth the wait because they both could hit and we saw evidence of that with the knockdowns of both boxers during some of the early rounds.

I think PBC have to be careful with their match ups and study them closely before committing to them, up to now it's been good and looking forward at what's on the upcoming schedule is enough for me to tune in.
The style of their shows is different and not to everyone's liking, for the most part I accept it but I do miss the ring walks which has always been a colourful fixture at an event.
Other than that they're doing a good job so far.

these type of fights on regular tv are super great for he sport. Haymon is simply brilliant

Always amazes me that some posters have negative takes on the PBC overall.

Is it perfect? No.

But, I seem to remember it wasn't to long ago you could go to any boxing board and see at least one post on how the sport is dying.

Well, the PBC is proof that boxing is alive, well, and growing in popularity.

It is, after all, what we all want.