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John L Sulllivan Vs Wlad Klitschko (Alpha to the Omega)

Posted: 12 Apr 2015, 19:03
by BoxBuzz
Who wins?

I hate to side with K's on anything...but I'm not sure I could imagine John L. on the end of a win in this case. I'd love to hear some reasons why he could.

And I might even sign on, if I can wrap my zippy mind around the reasoning.

Maybe I'm blinded by size...or time....not sure which. I do think John L would have done fine against Willard or Carnera....but not sure about Vitali or Wlad.

Anyway's this came to mind, and then to print.

Re: John L Sulllivan Vs Wlad Klitschko (Alpha to the Omega)

Posted: 12 Apr 2015, 19:15
by Tomasino
John L would win, he had a better punch than Sanders and was a better grappler than Povetkin, he lands eventually and puts Wlad out.....maybe :lol:

Re: John L Sulllivan Vs Wlad Klitschko (Alpha to the Omega)

Posted: 14 Apr 2015, 13:14
by HomicideHenry
Depends on the circumstances involved.... when Sullivan campaigned as champion (under two different set of rules at the same time) whenever he boxed with the gloves he often defended the title in four and six round bouts. Now and then a ten rounder was thrown in for good measure. There was some confusion back then with these new rules Sullivan championed, because Sully usually offered $1,000 or better to any man who could go the full distance with him--- so whenever that happened, which was rare, some people figured that maybe the title went with it as well.

Case in point, Sully defended the title against Britain's Alf Greenfield and the Brit threw himself down to the canvas several times to avoid Sullivan's power punches--- and thus he managed to make it the full four rounds. He won the money, and some people were convinced, cus Sullivan didn't knock him out, that Greenfield was by proxy the champion too. The general public wouldn't fully get a grasp or concept of the new rules (Marquis of Queensbury) until the 1900's--- hell even in Dempsey's era there was confusion on some elements of the rules, because each state had its own opinion of what some of the rules meant. Which is how Dempsey was able to stand over his opponents alot of the time, cus he fought in rather relaxed jurisdictions.

I think, in a four rounder scenario (which is what suited Sullivan best) against Klitschko we would see an interesting contest. Think of our modern day Prizefighter tournaments--- and that is the kind of contest we would be seeing between the two. I think Sully was certainly tough enough to take Klitschko's punches, so there be no worrying about seeing him lose by knockout. And since Klitschko is often a slow starter, that would make the contest very interesting. I think Sullivan would take the first round, Klitschko would win the second round--- third round, Sullivan turns up the pace and forces Klitschko into a few brawls, and that is an even round. The fourth and final, Klitschko turns up the pace, Sullivan catches, but he lives for this sort of thing and goes all out.

The judges scorecards are read, it's too close to call, and it is rendered a DRAW.

Re: John L Sulllivan Vs Wlad Klitschko (Alpha to the Omega)

Posted: 14 Apr 2015, 14:28
by cfang
With gloves wk batters the great jl in 2/3 rounds. Without gloves it depends on how tough wk really is but I'd have my money on jls.

Re: John L Sulllivan Vs Wlad Klitschko (Alpha to the Omega)

Posted: 29 Apr 2015, 00:29
by jaclem3
i've seen sullivan's height listed as 5'10". the referee could stand in the middle for a unique view of the action.

doesn't anyone here know how boxbuzzy likes to mess with your minds by starting threads like this?






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