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I know there are a couple of other topics on this fight, but one was made before the fight was confirmed and the other is focused on the catchweight. While this isn't the fight that the fans wanted, I think it's an intriguing matchup and will likely be a very competitive fight.

Who do you have winning and how?

Catchweights suck, but I don't think it's a major factor in this fight as Geale isn't a big middleweight by any stretch.

Geale will have a 3" height advantage, and a 4" reach advantage, plus he should be heavier on fight night, but probably not by a lot as I don't think he's much of a drainer (which is largely why I don't see the catchweight being a factor).

The main reason why Geale was wiped out early by GGG was the power and chin deficit. On boxing ability, Geale is competitive with GGG, but he didn't have the power to earn GGG's respect and didn't have the chin to take GGG's punch. I don't think the same equation applies in this fight because Cotto doesn't hit as hard as GGG and while he has a good chin, he isn't going to walk through punches from a legit middleweight, even a relatively light-hitting one, like GGG does.

why making a thread about this shi$&t fight???

one big time ducker against a c level boxer, i mean, who cares...

ahh f%&/k team haymon is so shi%&/t........we couldve got stevenson-kovalev or cotto-golovkin, instead we get team haymon ducking shi&(t and that stevenson against skuutstik and other nobodys and cotto in a catchweight fight f....... boxing

Chepppaaa wrote:why making a thread about this shi$&t fight???

one big time ducker against a c level boxer, i mean, who cares...

ahh f%&/k team haymon is so shi%&/t........we couldve got stevenson-kovalev or cotto-golovkin, instead we get team haymon ducking shi&(t and that stevenson against skuutstik and other nobodys and cotto in a catchweight fight f....... boxing

I agree with a lot of your sentiments. That said, I believe that while Cotto-Golovkin is a better fight for boxing, Cotto-Geale is a better boxing fight. Part of my interest is because Geale is Australian and I'd like to see him win, so I'm probably a little biased, but I honestly think this is a very interesting matchup. Cotto is undersized (for MW) and IMO overrated by many, especially after his dominant win over a past-it Martinez. Geale is underrated at the moment, especially after being steamrolled by GGG.

Finally, we can argue over definitions, but I consider Geale a B level fighter. Former world champ, has only been clearly beaten once, top 10 in his division etc. Like I said, it's not the fight the public wants, but I think it's actually a very good fight.

Depends on how well Geale can manage the additional weight drain and what strategy he selects. If he manages to keep Cotto outside, he should win a clear decision or can even hurt Cotto in the process.

Thinking this looks a lot like the Delvin fight because of the catchweight...

koolkc107 wrote:Thinking this looks a lot like the Delvin fight because of the catchweight...

So, you are comparing a WW journeyman with a recent MW champion just because the latter needs to shave off 3 additional pounds ?

ikorolev wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:Thinking this looks a lot like the Delvin fight because of the catchweight...

So, you are comparing a WW journeyman with a recent MW champion just because the latter needs to shave off 3 additional pounds ?

Delvin has been a jr middle for the longest...he is tall and skilled.

So, yeah.

I am comparing Delvin to Geale.

And I think Cotto will get rid of Geale pretty much like he got rid of Rodriguez.

Geale hasn't weighed less than @159 pounds in 8 years. I think it will play a part here.

I think its competitive. Not sure who I like at the moment. I heard something, but haven't read the details, concerning a catchweight so need to look into that further too.

Geale will clearly out point Cotto and will be rewarded with a draw.

Cotto vs Geale - who cares?

There were so many options to choose from and we get this, and I happen to be a Geale fan.

I wish, for one day, EVERY fighter was held to the same standard as Floyd. Because it is the correct standard. If you are going to demand big money and attention, fight the best. People can talk shit about Floyd's opponent choice, as it seems to be the default response made by Floyd hater with limited boxing knowledge; however, he fights much better opponents that 99.9% of active boxers.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Cotto vs Geale - who cares?

There were so many options to choose from and we get this, and I happen to be a Geale fan.

I wish, for one day, EVERY fighter was held to the same standard as Floyd. Because it is the correct standard. If you are going to demand big money and attention, fight the best. People can talk poo about Floyd's opponent choice, as it seems to be the default response made by Floyd hater with limited boxing knowledge; however, he fights much better opponents that 99.9% of active boxers.

Good point. Floyd always fights guys coming of a huge win or guys folks swear he won't go near.

But, I think Cotto is one of the few guys that gets a pass for booking a less than spectacular fight or two.

He has made a career of fighting everyone sooner or later.

He wants to take a victory lap, I wont bang on him.

As long as the fight after is Floyd, Pac, Canelo or GGG. (In that order)

Cotto destroys him.

koolkc107 wrote:

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Cotto vs Geale - who cares?

There were so many options to choose from and we get this, and I happen to be a Geale fan.

I wish, for one day, EVERY fighter was held to the same standard as Floyd. Because it is the correct standard. If you are going to demand big money and attention, fight the best. People can talk poo about Floyd's opponent choice, as it seems to be the default response made by Floyd hater with limited boxing knowledge; however, he fights much better opponents that 99.9% of active boxers.

Good point. Floyd always fights guys coming of a huge win or guys folks swear he won't go near.

But, I think Cotto is one of the few guys that gets a pass for booking a less than spectacular fight or two.

He has made a career of fighting everyone sooner or later.

He wants to take a victory lap, I wont bang on him.

As long as the fight after is Floyd, Pac, Canelo or GGG. (In that order)

He has been sitting on the title for a year. He could have taken that victory lap sooner. Also, he clearly shows that he is not willing to fight a healthy full size middleweight. Why stay at 160 then ?

ikorolev wrote:He has been sitting on the title for a year. He could have taken that victory lap sooner. Also, he clearly shows that he is not willing to fight a healthy full size middleweight. Why stay at 160 then ?

Because he has more bargaining power at 160.

This is why lineal titles do not matter anymore. Being the man who beats "the man" is only an accomplishment if every deserving fighters gets a shot at "the man".

Can't believe Cotto, based on boxing's historic standards, is the man at 160 above GGG. I don't know when boxing fans will wake up.

Geale sucks. Gets clobbered.

ikorolev wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:Thinking this looks a lot like the Delvin fight because of the catchweight...

So, you are comparing a WW journeyman with a recent MW champion just because the latter needs to shave off 3 additional pounds ?

You refer to Geale as a champion yet Cotto as a journeyman? Are you on crack?

Geale blows. Cotto loses to top level guys. Geale isn't.

diddy wrote:

ikorolev wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:Thinking this looks a lot like the Delvin fight because of the catchweight...

So, you are comparing a WW journeyman with a recent MW champion just because the latter needs to shave off 3 additional pounds ?

You refer to Geale as a champion yet Cotto as a journeyman? Are you on crack?

Geale blows. Cotto loses to top level guys. Geale isn't.

Read it again who's on crack :??

diddy wrote:

ikorolev wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:Thinking this looks a lot like the Delvin fight because of the catchweight...

So, you are comparing a WW journeyman with a recent MW champion just because the latter needs to shave off 3 additional pounds ?

You refer to Geale as a champion yet Cotto as a journeyman? Are you on crack?

Geale blows. Cotto loses to top level guys. Geale isn't.

If you have issues with reading comprehension, I will clarify: Rodriguez is a journeyman.

Cotto loses to top level welters, so he can easily lose to the recent MW champion. That is why he forced Geale to fight at 157 hoping that he will be weaker.

Geale to redeem himself on USA soil with a un dec but he will get a split dec

Once again. Geale blows.

Have a look at geales build, he will lose that weight and probably be in the best shape of his pro career, he has l layer he needs to lose

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Cotto vs Geale - who cares?

There were so many options to choose from and we get this, and I happen to be a Geale fan.

I wish, for one day, EVERY fighter was held to the same standard as Floyd. Because it is the correct standard. If you are going to demand big money and attention, fight the best. People can talk poo about Floyd's opponent choice, as it seems to be the default response made by Floyd hater with limited boxing knowledge; however, he fights much better opponents that 99.9% of active boxers.

i was hating on floyd because he is a+ and he fought a lot of b or a boxers, but didnt want no part of the other a+ boxer and that was pacquiao, now that he is boxing him, i am fine.

but i have the same standard for everybody, i never asked for a c level boxer to box a a level boxer, simply because it makes no sense, its like asking a street baller to go one on one with chris paul, makes 0 sense. but whenever i top boxer doesnt want to box another top boxer, than i have a problem, exactly what the case is now with the adonis/serguy situation or cotto no willing to face ggg.

and please stop wining about floyd, this bi&/h has been a full time ducker for 5 years, he preffered making 825k ppv or 920k ppv buys against guys like guerrero or maidana, instead of making around 3-4 million ppv buys against pacquiao for 5 damn years, just because prime pacquiao was so fast and so well conditioned that he thought he only could be juiced being that good. this could have been prime mayweather vs prime pacquiao and because of his waiting and 1000 demands this fight did not happen, while on the other side pacquiao was after short period of time saying yes to everything floyd wanted. and now all that bull&(t with "yeah the meeting at the basketball game was great for the fight actual fight happeneing", wtf, so a 300 million fight cannot happen except me meet random on a fu/()ing basketbal game ...that shows you how retarded floyd is.

floyd deserves every bit of hate, he brought ducking on a another level. and boxing experts are right, he fools people, he choose people with 0 footwork and whenever there are guys with great fast fluid footwork than he stays away from them, no matter if it is prime pacquiao or guys like lara. or if the guys are big strong tall guys like margarito or pw.

maidana, slow ass.....canelo hahaha..hyped as the future of boxing, couldnt win one single round in the first 5 rounds when lara was on his game making him miss all day....

I think the split of opinions here - 19:11 to Cotto - shows that this is a more competitive matchup than many are making it out to be. The only outcome I can't envisage is Geale knocking Cotto out early - I think Cotto is too durable and Geale too light-hitting for that to happen. I also don't think a shutout type decision for either fighter is likely.

While this fight itself is very interesting, it's not great for GGG or the future of the division. If Cotto wins, he won't fight GGG who will probably face Heiland for the vacant title after Cotto is stripped - an OK fight and likely another belt for GGG, but not the PPV fight he's looking for. If Geale wins, then they need to try to sell a rematch for a fight that ended in an early knockout - we already know that Geale can't take GGG's punch.

Geale doesn't have good punch delivery with that right hand, which I think is what he wants to do the most damage with, that may be part of why he doesn't have more knockouts.. Cotto is probably too smart and too strong a puncher to get outhustled here but it will be nice to see Geale push the pace.