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Usually on any normal given night, I would pick Floyd to win against anyone near his weight class. However, in this fight things are not normal. The hype and build up is amazing and can have effects on both fighters. This fight is being called the fight of the century, so far. Pressure is something Floyd has handled well in the past. In this fight, so far, all the pressure seems to be on Floyd mostly due to his own words and actions over the years. He says, "I have never wanted to win a fight so bad". Pacman is so relaxed and calm all the time. He has nothing to loose. Also, fans want to see exciting matches. Floyd, IMO, will box box and box more. He will be brainwashed by himself. He will be thinking in the ring "I must win, I must win". One of Floyd s best assets has been his thinking intelligence in a fight. I do not believe, based on what I just said, his mind will hold up for all 12 rounds for the first time. It is almost Morphy's Law. When will he become more brainwashed? When Manny Speed and Power get into his brainstormed mind. if things are not going his way, we might see Floyd try and foul out. He can't loose the zero!!! In addition, Manny is no Maidana! Floyd had much trouble with Maidana and Manny is a faster swarming version of Maidana. Lastly, Floyd is now saying this will be is last fight. Why? He is afraid that the judges and boxing politics might rob him and make more money on a rematch so he says I will not fight after this. All this said, I think boxing politicians will sense this and the fight will be a draw. No way can he retire with a draw.

This fight is being called the fight of the century, so far.

Ah, No. Fight of the Century is more like Ali vs. Frazier 1..Pac Mayweather fight is comparable to Lewis vs. Tyson.

Ali v Frazier was last century

I agree with a lot of what the OP says and one thing that he mentions is something that i haven't seen brought up anywhere and could absolutely be what transpires in the ring May 2nd. Does anyone think that Floyd won't pull some kind of bush league tactic if he's in a position late in the fight where he needs a knockout to win? Something abnormal will happen and i'm not sure what it will be but i wouldn't be surprised if Floyd tries for a "no contest" if the fight is lopsided in Manny's favor. I'm thinking that he milks a Manny low blow at some point and says he can't continue or if there's a butt that causes him a cut near his eyes, he's finds a way to go the cards after the 5th round.

I really don't expect Manny to establish the kind of lead in the fight as i suggest above but if it does happen then I'm with the OP that Floyd will try everything he can to get out of this fight with an NC. Integrity is not one of Floyd's attributes.

Rocky1357 wrote:Usually on any normal given night, I would pick Floyd to win against anyone near his weight class. However, in this fight things are not normal. The hype and build up is amazing and can have effects on both fighters. This fight is being called the fight of the century, so far. Pressure is something Floyd has handled well in the past. In this fight, so far, all the pressure seems to be on Floyd mostly due to his own words and actions over the years. He says, "I have never wanted to win a fight so bad". Pacman is so relaxed and calm all the time. He has nothing to loose. Also, fans want to see exciting matches. Floyd, IMO, will box box and box more. He will be brainwashed by himself. He will be thinking in the ring "I must win, I must win". One of Floyd s best assets has been his thinking intelligence in a fight. I do not believe, based on what I just said, his mind will hold up for all 12 rounds for the first time. It is almost Morphy's Law. When will he become more brainwashed? When Manny Speed and Power get into his brainstormed mind. if things are not going his way, we might see Floyd try and foul out. He can't loose the zero!!! In addition, Manny is no Maidana! Floyd had much trouble with Maidana and Manny is a faster swarming version of Maidana. Lastly, Floyd is now saying this will be is last fight. Why? He is afraid that the judges and boxing politics might rob him and make more money on a rematch so he says I will not fight after this. All this said, I think boxing politicians will sense this and the fight will be a draw. No way can he retire with a draw.

There are so many erroneous assumptions in this post I don't know where to start.

So I will go in order. Kind of.

If pressure is something Floyd has handled in the past why is now any different? One could argue that DLH and Canelo were higher pressure fights because he was in with bigger men.

And, if you think Pac has nothing to lose you are kidding yourself. What happens to perceptions of Pac when Floyd handles him easier than he did Canelo or Maidana or Cotto? What happens to what we think about Pac when Floyd stops him? Coupled with the JMM KO, there will be some who will call him a hype job who benefitted from good matchmaking, a guy who came up short against the 2 best fighters he faced.

Every fighter goes into the fight thinking "I must win, I must win". Floyd and Manny are no different. Yes, Floyd will box. But it is clear from how he is preparing that he is also going to try and make a statement, an exclamation point. The wood chopping, the swimming, all other signs point to him wanting more POWER in this fight. He has said as much. Truth is, I think Floyd's attitude this fight is very much like JMM's in the 4th fight. Only Floyd knows he can do the same thing WITHOUT taking nearly as much punishment as Marquez did.

His mind and mental state will be fine. It is Manny's frustration you had better worry about, the very frustration that causes him to make mistakes in ALL of his fights. If anyone will resort to fouling it will probably be Manny, as it will be the only way he can hurt Floyd after everything else has failed to.

You got one thing right. Manny is not Maidana. He is much better.

But not at the thing that has given Floyd trouble in the past.

Manny is an in and out guy, not a swarmer who gets in your face and stays there.

Manny uses incredible footspeed and footwork. He darts in, tags you up, then darts out.

The problem with this against a good counterpuncher is that no matter how fast this darting is done, it can be timed.

And it will be...with devastating effects. Over and over again. Until Manny drops or is forced to quit.

Lastly, Floyd is not saying this is his last fight. He is saying his last fight will be in September, fulfilling his 6 fight contract with ShowTime.

This wont be a draw. It will be a massacre.

koolkc107 wrote:

Rocky1357 wrote:Usually on any normal given night, I would pick Floyd to win against anyone near his weight class. However, in this fight things are not normal. The hype and build up is amazing and can have effects on both fighters. This fight is being called the fight of the century, so far. Pressure is something Floyd has handled well in the past. In this fight, so far, all the pressure seems to be on Floyd mostly due to his own words and actions over the years. He says, "I have never wanted to win a fight so bad". Pacman is so relaxed and calm all the time. He has nothing to loose. Also, fans want to see exciting matches. Floyd, IMO, will box box and box more. He will be brainwashed by himself. He will be thinking in the ring "I must win, I must win". One of Floyd s best assets has been his thinking intelligence in a fight. I do not believe, based on what I just said, his mind will hold up for all 12 rounds for the first time. It is almost Morphy's Law. When will he become more brainwashed? When Manny Speed and Power get into his brainstormed mind. if things are not going his way, we might see Floyd try and foul out. He can't loose the zero!!! In addition, Manny is no Maidana! Floyd had much trouble with Maidana and Manny is a faster swarming version of Maidana. Lastly, Floyd is now saying this will be is last fight. Why? He is afraid that the judges and boxing politics might rob him and make more money on a rematch so he says I will not fight after this. All this said, I think boxing politicians will sense this and the fight will be a draw. No way can he retire with a draw.

There are so many erroneous assumptions in this post I don't know where to start.

So I will go in order. Kind of.

If pressure is something Floyd has handled in the past why is now any different? One could argue that DLH and Canelo were higher pressure fights because he was in with bigger men.

And, if you think Pac has nothing to lose you are kidding yourself. What happens to perceptions of Pac when Floyd handles him easier than he did Canelo or Maidana or Cotto? What happens to what we think about Pac when Floyd stops him? Coupled with the JMM KO, there will be some who will call him a hype job who benefitted from good matchmaking, a guy who came up short against the 2 best fighters he faced.

Every fighter goes into the fight thinking "I must win, I must win". Floyd and Manny are no different. Yes, Floyd will box. But it is clear from how he is preparing that he is also going to try and make a statement, an exclamation point. The wood chopping, the swimming, all other signs point to him wanting more POWER in this fight. He has said as much. Truth is, I think Floyd's attitude this fight is very much like JMM's in the 4th fight. Only Floyd knows he can do the same thing WITHOUT taking nearly as much punishment as Marquez did.

His mind and mental state will be fine. It is Manny's frustration you had better worry about, the very frustration that causes him to make mistakes in ALL of his fights. If anyone will resort to fouling it will probably be Manny, as it will be the only way he can hurt Floyd after everything else has failed to.

You got one thing right. Manny is not Maidana. He is much better.

But not at the thing that has given Floyd trouble in the past.

Manny is an in and out guy, not a swarmer who gets in your face and stays there.

Manny uses incredible footspeed and footwork. He darts in, tags you up, then darts out.

The problem with this against a good counterpuncher is that no matter how fast this darting is done, it can be timed.

And it will be...with devastating effects. Over and over again. Until Manny drops or is forced to quit.

Lastly, Floyd is not saying this is his last fight. He is saying his last fight will be in September, fulfilling his 6 fight contract with ShowTime.

This wont be a draw. It will be a massacre.

I'm so glad you took the time to address this madness he wrote because honestly I stopped reading at Morphy's Law!! LOL, I'm still trying to figure out just what is "Morphy's Law".

You guys crack me up, this will be floyds hardest fight, you say floyd will time him, how much damage will be caused by the time that happens, or if it happens, pressure, floyd will have to work from the first till the last round, he won't have 4-6 rounds to feel pacquaio out, floyd is a potshotting boxer, he potshots opponents that are stationary, reducing his chances of missing or opening himself up to dangers, floyd has a terrible habit of leaning to his right in the corners, if he does this in this fight pacquaio will cut him to pieces, floyd has never fought such a mobile, aggressive, unorthodox fighter, due to pacquaios movement floyd will be having to hit a moving target, putting him in much more danger than throwing at a stationary target, floyd struggled with Judah for 5 rounds, pacquaio will be much more dangerous than Judah, pacquaio uses angles that no other fighter can mimic, they have both fought numerous common opponents and the only one floyd has handled better was JMM, he also came into that fight well overweight, floyd hasn't fought a mobile boxer in many years and has never fought one anywhere near as mobile as pacquaio, I'm sure pacquaio will be working off floyds left side nullifying floyds right, taking away floyds best asset, how will floyd nullify pacquaios movement, I don't know if he can

My good friend, I respect your effort but downing my points and saying "There are so many erroneous assumptions in this post I don't know where to start." obviously comes from a deep Floyd fan. You are Brainwashed as well. After the fight and when Manny wins, maybe I can show you some quotes from the Bible LOL! it is not personal but you need vision my friend. P.S. I am a former fighter and work for a Boxing Promotional Company so I think I know just a little of what is true and not so much that is erroneous.


VP


There are so many erroneous assumptions in this post I don't know where to start.

So I will go in order. Kind of.

If pressure is something Floyd has handled in the past why is now any different? One could argue that DLH and Canelo were higher pressure fights because he was in with bigger men.

And, if you think Pac has nothing to lose you are kidding yourself. What happens to perceptions of Pac when Floyd handles him easier than he did Canelo or Maidana or Cotto? What happens to what we think about Pac when Floyd stops him? Coupled with the JMM KO, there will be some who will call him a hype job who benefitted from good matchmaking, a guy who came up short against the 2 best fighters he faced.

Every fighter goes into the fight thinking "I must win, I must win". Floyd and Manny are no different. Yes, Floyd will box. But it is clear from how he is preparing that he is also going to try and make a statement, an exclamation point. The wood chopping, the swimming, all other signs point to him wanting more POWER in this fight. He has said as much. Truth is, I think Floyd's attitude this fight is very much like JMM's in the 4th fight. Only Floyd knows he can do the same thing WITHOUT taking nearly as much punishment as Marquez did.

His mind and mental state will be fine. It is Manny's frustration you had better worry about, the very frustration that causes him to make mistakes in ALL of his fights. If anyone will resort to fouling it will probably be Manny, as it will be the only way he can hurt Floyd after everything else has failed to.

You got one thing right. Manny is not Maidana. He is much better.

But not at the thing that has given Floyd trouble in the past.

Manny is an in and out guy, not a swarmer who gets in your face and stays there.

Manny uses incredible footspeed and footwork. He darts in, tags you up, then darts out.

The problem with this against a good counterpuncher is that no matter how fast this darting is done, it can be timed.

And it will be...with devastating effects. Over and over again. Until Manny drops or is forced to quit.

Lastly, Floyd is not saying this is his last fight. He is saying his last fight will be in September, fulfilling his 6 fight contract with ShowTime.

This wont be a draw. It will be a massacre.[/quote]

I'm so glad you took the time to address this madness he wrote because honestly I stopped reading at Morphy's Law!! LOL, I'm still trying to figure out just what is "Morphy's Law". [/quote]