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Always got to be some controversy http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/12 ... not-signed

Cedric wrote:Always got to be some controversy http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/12 ... not-signed

This is just fear from Arum, he knows Manny is going to lose and they area afraid and looking for any excuse to get out of this fight; don't be surprised if they say Pacquiao got hurt in sparring next to delay and then ultimately kill the fight.

Just seen that story on RDS here. The contract isn t sign. In fact Mayweather s clan have signed, Bob is calling is bullshit has usual... And so tickets are still unsold and we are 10 days from the fight. I think if these 2 guys aren t fighting on May 2 we will never see it. And i am not optimistic at all ..

I guess there was a solid reason behind Mayweather not wanting to do business with Arum all these years.

Ellerbe failed to return messages to Yahoo Sports on Tuesday seeking comment or to provide an update on tickets. However, Yahoo Sports spent more than an hour on Friday with Ellerbe in his Las Vegas office in an attempt to fully understand why tickets have yet to be released.

The theme that Ellerbe repeatedly went back to during that interview was that Arum is upset because the agreement he signed in February doesn't give him control. And Ellerbe ridiculed Koncz and said it was laughable that he would speak publicly since he wasn't involved in the talks in any manner.

"Michael Koncz doesn't know a thing about this," Ellerbe said Friday. "Why is he opening his mouth when he wasn't involved in it all all? At all!"

After an April 8 Yahoo Sports story brought light to the issue, Ellerbe sent Top Rank a copy of the contract later that day. But thus far, Arum has refused to sign it, saying it is not what he agreed to. Ellerbe insists it is.

Given that Top Rank has finally received the ticket manifest, the problem is much closer to a resolution even though it isn't done.


http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxing/ma ... 36660.html


Bet Pac fanboys will find a way to blame Floyd for this as well.

"He's the A-side, he's the lead promoter!" or some other myopian drivel.

But, this failure to sign by Arum might be the best explanation for why no one can find a ticket....

Cloutov wrote:Just seen that story on RDS here. The contract isn t sign. In fact Mayweather s clan have signed, Bob is calling is bullshit has usual... And so tickets are still unsold and we are 10 days from the fight. I think if these 2 guys aren t fighting on May 2 we will never see it. And i am not optimistic at all ..

It's as obvious as a hot Sun, Arum is up to his usual tricks. Anyone, even a blind man can see that Bob is trying his second to the last ditch effort to get out of this fight.

Bob has always did things like this to kill this fight in any way he can, remember this:

The temporary stadium seating 16,000, the 6 months for Packy's cut to heal, the flip flopping of wanting the fight when they thought Floyd was going to jail and then when he got the judge to agree to keep him out until after the fight Manny became unavailable.

Why is anyone surprised by Arum's latest move? His last ditch effort will be to have Packy fake an injury in sparring to cancel the fight and then claim some bogus reason why they can't reschedule the fight at a later date so that he can kill this bout altogether.

KBB wrote:

Cloutov wrote:Just seen that story on RDS here. The contract isn t sign. In fact Mayweather s clan have signed, Bob is calling is bullshit has usual... And so tickets are still unsold and we are 10 days from the fight. I think if these 2 guys aren t fighting on May 2 we will never see it. And i am not optimistic at all ..

It's as obvious as a hot Sun, Arum is up to his usual tricks. Anyone, even a blind man can see that Bob is trying his second to the last ditch effort to get out of this fight.

Bob has always did things like this to kill this fight in any way he can, remember this:

The temporary stadium seating 16,000, the 6 months for Packy's cut to heal, the flip flopping of wanting the fight when they thought Floyd was going to jail and then when he got the judge to agree to keep him out until after the fight Manny became unavailable.

Why is anyone surprised by Arum's latest move? His last ditch effort will be to have Packy fake an injury in sparring to cancel the fight and then claim some bogus reason why they can't reschedule the fight at a later date so that he can kill this bout altogether.

Would you PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE stop injecting TRUTH and FACTS into this dialogue?

You know Pac fanboys aint trying to hear that...

So Arum didn't even receive the contract till April 15th for a may 2nd fight. Lol that's what happens when you let clowns take the lead in promoting the biggest fight ever

Ellerbee needs to stop playing around and behave more professionally.

Purse Bid Shakedown wrote:So Arum didn't even receive the contract till April 15th for a may 2nd fight. Lol that's what happens when you let clowns take the lead in promoting the biggest fight ever

LOL, calls people clowns but believes Bob "Yesterday I was lying but Today I'm telling the Truth" Arum.

http://www.boxinginsider.com/columns/bo ... et-master/

If anyone (besides you) had really read the article and focused on the part where both Promoters received a certain amount of tickets then you'd see that there was no reason for Floyd's camp to be lying about this.

the allotment of tickets is pretty clear with MGM getting 40 percent of the tickets and the two promoters getting 30 percent each.

But we'll leave that to you (the Smart Guy) to figure this out>

KBB wrote:

Purse Bid Shakedown wrote:So Arum didn't even receive the contract till April 15th for a may 2nd fight. Lol that's what happens when you let clowns take the lead in promoting the biggest fight ever

LOL, calls people clowns but believes Bob "Yesterday I was lying but Today I'm telling the Truth" Arum.

http://www.boxinginsider.com/columns/bo ... et-master/

If anyone (besides you) had really read the article and focused on the part where both Promoters received a certain amount of tickets then you'd see that there was no reason for Floyd's camp to be lying about this.

the allotment of tickets is pretty clear with MGM getting 40 percent of the tickets and the two promoters getting 30 percent each.

But we'll leave that to you (the Smart Guy) to figure this out>

What's this non sequitur? It says right in that espn link up top, draft received April 15th. Without that signed, no tickets can go on sale. These guys are jokers

Purse Bid Shakedown wrote:

KBB wrote:

Purse Bid Shakedown wrote:So Arum didn't even receive the contract till April 15th for a may 2nd fight. Lol that's what happens when you let clowns take the lead in promoting the biggest fight ever

LOL, calls people clowns but believes Bob "Yesterday I was lying but Today I'm telling the Truth" Arum.

http://www.boxinginsider.com/columns/bo ... et-master/

If anyone (besides you) had really read the article and focused on the part where both Promoters received a certain amount of tickets then you'd see that there was no reason for Floyd's camp to be lying about this.

the allotment of tickets is pretty clear with MGM getting 40 percent of the tickets and the two promoters getting 30 percent each.

But we'll leave that to you (the Smart Guy) to figure this out>

What's this non sequitur? It says right in that espn link up top, draft received April 15th. Without that signed, no tickets can go on sale. These guys are jokers

I ainta no collage gradyouwait but it seem to me iffn you ainta gonna sighn da papawerk, you ainta gonna git no tikits.

koolkc107 wrote:

Purse Bid Shakedown wrote: What's this non sequitur? It says right in that espn link up top, draft received April 15th. Without that signed, no tickets can go on sale. These guys are jokers

I ainta no collage gradyouwait but it seem to me iffn you ainta gonna sighn da papawerk, you ainta gonna git no tikits.

lol at these dumba$$ flomos. Of course Arum will sign, but receiving a contract 2.5 weeks before the fight is outrageous, beyond unprofessional

Purse Bid Shakedown wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:

Purse Bid Shakedown wrote: What's this non sequitur? It says right in that espn link up top, draft received April 15th. Without that signed, no tickets can go on sale. These guys are jokers

I ainta no collage gradyouwait but it seem to me iffn you ainta gonna sighn da papawerk, you ainta gonna git no tikits.

lol at these dumba$$ flomos. Of course Arum will sign, but receiving a contract 2.5 weeks before the fight is outrageous, beyond unprofessional

Yep, but not as unprofessional as failing to sign something you agreed to months ago.

Methinks you be confused about which of us is the dumba$$...

koolkc107 wrote:Yep, but not as unprofessional as failing to sign something you agreed to months ago.

Methinks you be confused about which of us is the dumba$$...

Calls us dumbasses but either he didn't read the article or didn't understand what he read.

koolkc107 wrote:

Purse Bid Shakedown wrote: lol at these dumba$$ flomos. Of course Arum will sign, but receiving a contract 2.5 weeks before the fight is outrageous, beyond unprofessional

Yep, but not as unprofessional as failing to sign something you agreed to months ago.

Methinks you be confused about which of us is the dumba$$...

None of us knows what was agreed to, and what was in the draft. But sending that over 2.5 weeks before the fight is a joke. No tickets could go on sale before that's signed. Ridiculously unprofessional

KBB wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:Yep, but not as unprofessional as failing to sign something you agreed to months ago.

Methinks you be confused about which of us is the dumba$$...

Calls us dumbasses but either he didn't read the article or didn't understand what he read.

Not at all hard to figure out what has been going on.

I thought it was on purpose.

But this makes more sense.

TR won't sign what they agreed to because it DOES cut them out as the main promoter and they want to leverage a better deal. So they point the finger at Mayweather.

GBP, which isn't involved much if at all in the richest fight in boxing history, will point a hater's finger as well.

The last folks with an interest in screwing this up is Mayweather and his peeps.

But I guess it is easier for some folks to not think and blame them anyway.

GBP is not involved in this fight in any way, shape or form.

This is all Arum's doing, he knew the deal long before he agreed to it. Weren't he, Manny and Freddie the ones stating in every media outlet on the internet and TV that "we already signed the deal"??

If they said this then this meant that they already knew what the "Deal" was!!

There is no two ways about this, Arum cannot weasel his way out of this and goad the public into believing it is Floyd when they already claimed long before Floyd signed that they already knew the deal and signed it.

Arum signed off on having NO say in this part of the promotion and is now reneging.


Mayweather Promotions CEO Leonard Ellerbe sees it as a control issue for Arum. Ellerbe says that Arum agreed to the contract months ago, and now he’s not willing to accept what he agreed to already.

According to ESPN, Pacquiao posted a copy of the term sheet on his Facebook page briefly before he deleted it. Someone took a screen shot of the term sheet. It showed that Mayweather Promotions at the lead promoter for the event. It also had him as the lead negotiator with the MGM Grand.


http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/04/may ... ot-signed/

koolkc107 wrote:Arum signed off on having NO say in this part of the promotion and is now reneging.


Mayweather Promotions CEO Leonard Ellerbe sees it as a control issue for Arum. Ellerbe says that Arum agreed to the contract months ago, and now he’s not willing to accept what he agreed to already.

According to ESPN, Pacquiao posted a copy of the term sheet on his Facebook page briefly before he deleted it. Someone took a screen shot of the term sheet. It showed that Mayweather Promotions at the lead promoter for the event. It also had him as the lead negotiator with the MGM Grand.


http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/04/may ... ot-signed/

Damn you're thick. None of us has seen the original agreement, nor this draft sent 2.5 weeks before the fight. Of course they'll pour over ever detail, and there may be minor points of disagreement. But you don't send that for signature 2.5 weeks before the fight even for non ppv fight, nevermind the biggest fight of all. Use your head, flo mo. But no use, I see you're still posting links to BN24 lol

Purse Bid Shakedown wrote:Damn you're thick. None of us has seen the original agreement, nor this draft sent 2.5 weeks before the fight. Of course they'll pour over ever detail, and there may be minor points of disagreement. But you don't send that for signature 2.5 weeks before the fight even for non ppv fight, nevermind the biggest fight of all. Use your head, flo mo. But no use, I see you're still posting links to BN24 lol

It appears that you are the thick one. Let's breakdown what you stated, you said this: None of us has seen the original agreement

The key word in that sentence is "Agreement"! That implies that there are two sides who came to a mutual conclusion that this was doable and since they (Arum, Manny and Roach) were the ones telling everyone that they signed their part of the agreement, then would it not be logical to believe that they knew the details of such an agreement?? http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxing/pr ... 34983.html

Just asking.

Oh and BTW, peep Manny's comment in that article about why he did not agree to the drug testing back in 2009.

He said "We were ignorant of the blood testing but has since then educated himself on it and have no problem with agreeing to testing" but, but, but (in my Manny voice) I thought you said "I'm afraid of needles and having blood drawn weakens me".

Can we say DUCK loudly??

lol

KBB wrote:Oh and BTW, peep Manny's comment in that article about why he did not agree to the drug testing back in 2009.

He said "We were ignorant of the blood testing but has since then educated himself on it and have no problem with agreeing to testing" but, but, but (in my Manny voice) I thought you said "I'm afraid of needles and having blood drawn weakens me".

Can we say DUCK loudly??

lol

LOL.

Just amazing...

Purse Bid Shakedown wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:Arum signed off on having NO say in this part of the promotion and is now reneging.


Mayweather Promotions CEO Leonard Ellerbe sees it as a control issue for Arum. Ellerbe says that Arum agreed to the contract months ago, and now he’s not willing to accept what he agreed to already.

According to ESPN, Pacquiao posted a copy of the term sheet on his Facebook page briefly before he deleted it. Someone took a screen shot of the term sheet. It showed that Mayweather Promotions at the lead promoter for the event. It also had him as the lead negotiator with the MGM Grand.


http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/04/may ... ot-signed/

Damn you're thick. None of us has seen the original agreement, nor this draft sent 2.5 weeks before the fight. Of course they'll pour over ever detail, and there may be minor points of disagreement. But you don't send that for signature 2.5 weeks before the fight even for non ppv fight, nevermind the biggest fight of all. Use your head, flo mo. But no use, I see you're still posting links to BN24 lol

See, that is classic example of fanboy myopia.

Someone gives Pactard ABSOLUTE PROOF and not only can't he see it, but then runs off at the mouth at how stupid YOU ARE for not seeing it with him.

What do you think "screenshot" means, my poor misguided fellow?

The media knows what was on the term sheet THAT WAS SIGNED.

There may still be areas of disagreement BUT THIS IS NOT ONE OF THEM!!!!

Shake yourself, PurseBid.

So will this fight happen?

KBB wrote:

Purse Bid Shakedown wrote:Damn you're thick. None of us has seen the original agreement, nor this draft sent 2.5 weeks before the fight. Of course they'll pour over ever detail, and there may be minor points of disagreement. But you don't send that for signature 2.5 weeks before the fight even for non ppv fight, nevermind the biggest fight of all. Use your head, flo mo. But no use, I see you're still posting links to BN24 lol

It appears that you are the thick one. Let's breakdown what you stated, you said this: None of us has seen the original agreement

The key word in that sentence is "Agreement"! That implies that there are two sides who came to a mutual conclusion that this was doable and since they (Arum, Manny and Roach) were the ones telling everyone that they signed their part of the agreement, then would it not be logical to believe that they knew the details of such an agreement?? http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxing/pr ... 34983.html

Just asking.

And who is to say the draft they got on April 15 was exactly the same as the earlier agreement, thick flo mo? April 15th lol