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Yes, he's Obnoxious, but a pretty damn good fighter. I think most reasonable people agree with those assertions.

My 2 "Bads" on him are:

1) If it's a boring fight, Mayweather will win, if it's an exciting fight, Pacquiao will win.

2) Mayweather was scared to fight Pacquiao, until Pac was KO'd by Marquez.

I think those 2 assertions are fairly obvious. Discuss....

I went to Denny's for breakfast.
I had the Grand slam

tiny_acres wrote:I went to Denny's for breakfast.
I had the Grand slam

Nice did you get French toast and maple syrup?

Tony1244 wrote:Yes, he's Obnoxious, but a pretty damn good fighter. I think most reasonable people agree with those assertions.

My 2 "Bads" on him are:

1) If it's a boring fight, Mayweather will win, if it's an exciting fight, Pacquiao will win.

2) Mayweather was scared to fight Pacquiao, until Pac was KO'd by Marquez.

I think those 2 assertions are fairly obvious. Discuss....

1. If it's a boring fight it's because Floyd will shutdown Manny and make it so one-sided that Pacquiao won't be able to do anything and that is why his fights are boring, not because of him but because the other fighter has been rendered incapable and useless.

2. This is a hugely incorrect assumption, all one has to do is search and you will see that Floyd tried to make the fight with Manny back in 2010, he gave into all of Manny's demands; The 50-50 deal, Glove Size, 10 million dollar penalty for every pound over the limit and whatever else, he asked for one thing (Drug/Blood Testing) and Pacquiao disagreed and that killed the fight>

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/boxing--fl ... fight.html

If anything I'd say that Manny was afraid to face Floyd until Roach has finally convinced him that Mayweather has lost a step or two.

Your BOGUS and so called "Fairly" obvious assertions are thus proven as utterly BIASED BULLSH*T!!

Have a nice unbiased day

black panther wrote:

tiny_acres wrote:I went to Denny's for breakfast.
I had the Grand slam

Nice did you get French toast and maple syrup?

I'm more an IHOP guy than Denny's.

At least I know that when I do IHOP, I won't wind up suing anyone.

They have a pretty decent steak omelette too...

The Original Grand Slam was about $4 for a long time at my local Denny's, which was a great deal, but now it's not even on the menu. You have to create it from the 'Build Your Own Slam' section and it's a couple bucks more. Lately, I've still opted for the OG slam, but with double bacon instead of the sausage links.

I think I am having Whataburger for lunch.
Double cheeseburger extra onions and order of fries.

KBB wrote:

Tony1244 wrote:Yes, he's Obnoxious, but a pretty damn good fighter. I think most reasonable people agree with those assertions.

My 2 "Bads" on him are:

1) If it's a boring fight, Mayweather will win, if it's an exciting fight, Pacquiao will win.

2) Mayweather was scared to fight Pacquiao, until Pac was KO'd by Marquez.

I think those 2 assertions are fairly obvious. Discuss....

1. If it's a boring fight it's because Floyd will shutdown Manny and make it so one-sided that Pacquiao won't be able to do anything and that is why his fights are boring, not because of him but because the other fighter has been rendered incapable and useless.

2. This is a hugely incorrect assumption, all one has to do is search and you will see that Floyd tried to make the fight with Manny back in 2010, he gave into all of Manny's demands; The 50-50 deal, Glove Size, 10 million dollar penalty for every pound over the limit and whatever else, he asked for one thing (Drug/Blood Testing) and Pacquiao disagreed and that killed the fight>

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/boxing--fl ... fight.html

If anything I'd say that Manny was afraid to face Floyd until Roach has finally convinced him that Mayweather has lost a step or two.

Your BOGUS and so called "Fairly" obvious assertions are thus proven as utterly BIASED BULLSH*T!!

Have a nice unbiased day

You say I'm biased, even though you largely agreed with assertion #1. I didn't go into the why of it being boring, I just said if Mayweather wins, it will be a boring fight and you agreed. At least follow your own BS.

On #2, yeah whatever. These concerns of Floyd's magically disappeared after Marquez KOd Pac.

Tony1244 wrote:You say I'm biased, even though you largely agreed with assertion #1. I didn't go into the why of it being boring, I just said if Mayweather wins, it will be a boring fight and you agreed. At least follow your own BS.

On #2, yeah whatever. These concerns of Floyd's magically disappeared after Marquez KOd Pac.

I didn't agree with it for the same reasons you did, that is quite obvious by that last sentence you posted.

It's mighty funny that you make it sound as though Floyd was afraid to fight him until JMM KO'd him when back in 2010 he had full contract negotiations to make the fight and Pacquiao refused to fight him because he was afraid of needles/blood testing.

Now what Smart Ass??

Everyone talks about this contract, who has actually seen it and read it on here, I've seen Floyd state in an interview he was a rich coward and was scared for his health regarding pacquaio, that's irrefutable

Pureist wrote:Everyone talks about this contract, who has actually seen it and read it on here, I've seen Floyd state in an interview he was a rich coward and was scared for his health regarding pacquaio, that's irrefutable

Floyd was telling the truth that time.

KBB wrote:

Tony1244 wrote:You say I'm biased, even though you largely agreed with assertion #1. I didn't go into the why of it being boring, I just said if Mayweather wins, it will be a boring fight and you agreed. At least follow your own BS.

On #2, yeah whatever. These concerns of Floyd's magically disappeared after Marquez KOd Pac.

I didn't agree with it for the same reasons you did, that is quite obvious by that last sentence you posted.

It's mighty funny that you make it sound as though Floyd was afraid to fight him until JMM KO'd him when back in 2010 he had full contract negotiations to make the fight and Pacquiao refused to fight him because he was afraid of needles/blood testing.

Now what Smart Ass??

Every non biased observer should be rooting for Pacquiao! Mayweather's biggest fan KBB duly admitted that a Pacman victory will be a more exciting fight.


That's "what," dumbass.

KBB wrote:

Tony1244 wrote:Yes, he's Obnoxious, but a pretty damn good fighter. I think most reasonable people agree with those assertions.

My 2 "Bads" on him are:

1) If it's a boring fight, Mayweather will win, if it's an exciting fight, Pacquiao will win.

2) Mayweather was scared to fight Pacquiao, until Pac was KO'd by Marquez.

I think those 2 assertions are fairly obvious. Discuss....

1. If it's a boring fight it's because Floyd will shutdown Manny and make it so one-sided that Pacquiao won't be able to do anything and that is why his fights are boring, not because of him but because the other fighter has been rendered incapable and useless.

Have a nice unbiased day

GGG shuts down his opponents, yet does it in an exciting manner.

It's a fair assessment in stating that Mayweather is not a very exciting fighter. However, he is excellent at his craft and a genius marketer.

Kbb can you post a copy of the contract on here so we can read it please, I showed you floyd being a scaredy cat

Impractical Poster wrote:GGG shuts down his opponents, yet does it in an exciting manner.

It's a fair assessment in stating that Mayweather is not a very exciting fighter. However, he is excellent at his craft and a genius marketer.

i never found him boring. taking people out
is not the only thing, that makes a fighter
interesting.

Pureist wrote:Kbb can you post a copy of the contract on here so we can read it please, I showed you floyd being a scaredy cat

Guys like you are so full of sh*t, you know damn good and well that none of these fighters post their contracts on the web and I provided you with the link from yahoo to which you rejected stating that they have no credibility (as if they had to lie to sensationalize a story to get ratings).

Now I will provide you this link and let's hear what your dumb ass has to say as another lame excuse on this one:


http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/12 ... mayweather

Try to focus on the part that says these things:

Mayweather and Pacquiao have been on a collision course since late 2009. Mayweather ended a nearly two-year retirement to easily outpoint Juan Manuel Marquez in September 2009, and two months later Pacquiao knocked out Miguel Cotto in the 12th round to win a welterweight title.

Everything had been agreed to but the drug testing, including a 50-50 revenue split.

It shows you that your boy Manny DUCKED!!

Now what p*ssy??

The proposed fight between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr has been thrown into jeopardy after the American fighter's camp demanded that both fighters be subjected to Olympic-type drug-testing in the weeks leading up to the bout. Mayweather's manager, Leonard Ellerbe, insisted the fight would not happen if Pacquiao did not agree to blood- testing under standards followed by the United States Anti-Doping Agency, saying: "There is no fight without Olympic-style random drug-testing".

Mayweather's camp claims it was told Pacquiao had agreed to have blood taken for testing before the initial media conference and after the fight but would not agree to have blood drawn within 30 days before the bout. But Pacquiao's trainer, Freddie Roach, said he could live with some testing, as long as it wasn't too close to the fight and wasn't overly intrusive.

"I will not let my fighter take a blood test the day before a fight," Roach said. "If they give me a five-day window or something like that I have no problem with it."

Roach said he hoped the issue was not brought up as a way to get Mayweather out of the fight. "He's looking for a back door out," Roach said. "We're eager to fight."----------------- Floyd stopped a multi million dollar fight over a 5 day window, he was not interested in the fight, he said on tv himself that he was scared for his health,show me some footage of pacquaio saying he doesn't want the fight, then I might believe you, I've shown you floyds own words on the subject, yet your still arguing