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Danny Williams Jab.

Posted: 21 Jun 2004, 10:10
by DG.
If DW snaps out his jab and remains mobile-he will beat Mike !

Believe me - Tyson is so far past his prime - a big ( Bigger Than Tyson ) Williams can beat him - DW has speed and power !

If DW believes in himself - he can change his name to Danny $s !

Box and move for 4 rounds and then start landing some power !

Very winnable fight for Danny as long as he does not wet himself !


:TU:

Re: Danny Williams Jab.

Posted: 21 Jun 2004, 10:11
by bennie
DG. wrote:If DW snaps out his jab and remains mobile-he will beat Mike !

Believe me - Tyson is so far past his prime - a big ( Bigger Than Tyson ) Williams can beat him - DW has speed and power !

If DW believes in himself - he can change him name to Danny $s !

Box and moive for 4 rounds and then start landing some power !

Very winnable fight for Danny as long as he does not wet himself !


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How can he beat Tyson when he doesn't throw a right hand?

Posted: 21 Jun 2004, 10:13
by Hardhitters11
Very winnable??????

You been drinking DG?

:lol:

Posted: 21 Jun 2004, 10:14
by dondada
Unless something remarkable happens, Williams will crumble in the early rounds.

Re: Danny Williams Jab.

Posted: 21 Jun 2004, 10:15
by DG.
bennie wrote:
DG. wrote:If DW snaps out his jab and remains mobile-he will beat Mike !

Believe me - Tyson is so far past his prime - a big ( Bigger Than Tyson ) Williams can beat him - DW has speed and power !

If DW believes in himself - he can change him name to Danny $s !

Box and moive for 4 rounds and then start landing some power !

Very winnable fight for Danny as long as he does not wet himself !


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How can he beat Tyson when he doesn't throw a right hand?

He WILL throw it - just box and move for the first 4 rounds !

He has to avoid throwing that left uppercut - leaves himself too exposed !

If Botha can outbox a better version of Tyson for so long - DW can - box and move Danny !

I am surprised Tyson is taking a good puncher like DW..

Tyson is a 4 round fighter these days - a very dangerous 4 round fighter and DW can outlast him !

DWmight be fragile but on his day ( which this will have to be ! ) he is a very good fighter !

Box and move !

:TU:

Posted: 21 Jun 2004, 10:15
by REAL_DEAL
Williams should do a Hakkar 4 the first 2 rounds and then maybe tyson will get tired.

Posted: 21 Jun 2004, 10:16
by DG.
Hardhitters11 wrote:Very winnable??????

You been drinking DG?

:lol:

Yes !

Tropicana Tropical !

Very tasty !

Tyson will not train more than 2 weeks !.

Posted: 21 Jun 2004, 10:17
by Hardhitters11
:lol:

Posted: 21 Jun 2004, 10:18
by buzz
DG. wrote:
Hardhitters11 wrote:Very winnable??????

You been drinking DG?

:lol:


Tyson will not train more than 2 weeks !.
I dont think he will need to.

Re: Danny Williams Jab.

Posted: 21 Jun 2004, 10:18
by bennie
DG. wrote:
bennie wrote:
DG. wrote:If DW snaps out his jab and remains mobile-he will beat Mike !

Believe me - Tyson is so far past his prime - a big ( Bigger Than Tyson ) Williams can beat him - DW has speed and power !

If DW believes in himself - he can change him name to Danny $s !

Box and moive for 4 rounds and then start landing some power !

Very winnable fight for Danny as long as he does not wet himself !


:TU:
How can he beat Tyson when he doesn't throw a right hand?

He WILL throw it - just box and move for the first 4 rounds !
I wasn't being facetious, DG. If you have a recent fight of Danny on tape, pop it on and watch how many right hands he throws.

Re: Danny Williams Jab.

Posted: 21 Jun 2004, 11:39
by DG.
bennie wrote:
DG. wrote:
bennie wrote: How can he beat Tyson when he doesn't throw a right hand?

He WILL throw it - just box and move for the first 4 rounds !
I wasn't being facetious, DG. If you have a recent fight of Danny on tape, pop it on and watch how many right hands he throws.

:TU:

You may be right -he loves that stupid left a bit too much !

He will need to be at his best and he can beat moke,though !



:TU:

Posted: 21 Jun 2004, 11:57
by bugs
Danny doesn't need a right hand, who was that guyb he knocked out with just his jab after his shoulder popped out? Tyson's Next!!

Seriously, Danny can have all the guts in the world on some nights, like that fight showed us, and if it is that hard Danny that shows up ther ei sno reason he cant oubox and out endure a washed up tyson.

Posted: 21 Jun 2004, 11:58
by Neri
Tyson will KO early even a faded Tyson. But you never know if Danny can get past the first 4 rounds then....

Posted: 21 Jun 2004, 12:00
by DG.
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Re: Danny Williams Jab.

Posted: 21 Jun 2004, 12:05
by KOJOE90
DG. wrote:If DW snaps out his jab and remains mobile-he will beat Mike !

Believe me - Tyson is so far past his prime - a big ( Bigger Than Tyson ) Williams can beat him - DW has speed and power !
But Williams is not what you would call a mover, even less so these days with all that bulk he carries around.

I've never been a Tyson fan and I agree with you that Tyson is way past his best but he is still too much for our Danny I'm afraid to say, IMO.

Like I've stated on the first thread on this subject further down the board, due to Danny's fragile confidence I REALLY believe he will freeze and Tyson will KO him early. It could be simular to Tyson V Bruno 2, IMO.

Posted: 23 Jun 2004, 07:41
by DIRT SUGAR
I'd love to see Danny fulfill his potential in this fight and show just how good he can be, but if he can't get out of the way of Keith Long, I don't fancy him to beat even a faded Tyson.

Forget this jab and move stuff, he wants to do the opposite and use his weight advantage to push Tyson back and take the strength out of the old man's legs. If you watch Tyson v Douglas, Buster bullies Tyson and pushes him off balance and punishes him. That's what Danny needs to do and I'd love to see him do it.

Posted: 23 Jun 2004, 07:59
by Priff
There's many versions of Mike Tyson, the best of which were in the past.
There's many versions of Danny Williams, which come and go in no obvious pattern.

But in my opinion, there is no version of Danny Williams that beats any version of Iron Mike.

Posted: 23 Jun 2004, 08:05
by adamiw
IF Williams is on the very top of his game, fully focused etc... he can take Tyson a few rounds. His game plan should be to sruvive the first 3 or 4 rounds, when Tyson is most dangerous, and then start to build on that.

my concern is, that the first punch that Tyson lands will have a huge effect on Williams, even if he doesn't go down, he would of felt power like he's never felt before and he could crumble.

There are a couple of possible scenarios, the most likely is that Danny gets blown away within a round or two.

Posted: 23 Jun 2004, 08:08
by jamesmcdonnell
Frans Botha and Brian Nielsen were both competitive with Tyson many years ago, Tyson will only have gotten worse. Provided Williams doesn't do a Clifford Ettienne, I give him a 20% chance of winning.

I am going to have a small punt on Williams.

Posted: 23 Jun 2004, 11:05
by nickd
Nielsen was not competitive, he just stood there and got bashed up. Williams will get sparked for sure no way he beats even the most faded Tyson.

Posted: 23 Jun 2004, 11:25
by Kilburn
Williams certainly doesn't move like a typical 19st heavyweight, I'm always surprised at how quick his movements are overall for such an apparent lump.

He definitely, definitely has the TOOLS to beat this washed up version of Mike Tyson. It's whether he can hold it together on the night. It's not hard to see why virtually nobody has faith in him to achieve that but when a fighter has the tools for the job you can't completely write him off.

Posted: 23 Jun 2004, 11:29
by knockout artist
Priff wrote:There's many versions of Mike Tyson, the best of which were in the past.
There's many versions of Danny Williams, which come and go in no obvious pattern.

But in my opinion, there is no version of Danny Williams that beats any version of Iron Mike.
tHATS ABOUT THE SIZE OF IT

Posted: 23 Jun 2004, 11:38
by J
On paper I cant disagree, While I dont give Danny much of a chance he does still have one, if it goes 4 it might be interesting as I dont necessarily believe what Freddie spurts out pre fight, tho an undoubtedly great trainer he is, this could all be in my own mind, as I have said many times before I like Danny and he has the tools to much better than he has been. Maybe it could just come right on the night?
One thing is for sure if he doesnt sort his mental approach out then he is screwed, but possibly Tyson might have his demons, facing another big British heavweight, like I say if it goes into the middle of the fight it would be interesting. Im keeping my fingers crossed I would love our Danny to finally get the confidence and make a name for himself, he seems a real nice genuine guy, and I would also love tyson to be put into retirement the same way he spent the latter part of his career, embarrassed and shamed. Bloke never should have boxed again after the ear biting incident, that set boxing back years in itself, the sooner he is gone so we can remember the fantastic up and coming heavweight pre jail the better, not the freak show he has become.
My head most definitely says Tyson early but my heart is hoping for something quite different, come on Danny my son put it together on the night :TU:

Posted: 23 Jun 2004, 11:44
by DOG
I'm with that.
He has the tools and he has the talent.

Still a believer in Danny after all the false dawns. :TU:

Heart says Danny retires Iron Mike should this fight happen.
Head says I'm going to be frustrated again.

Posted: 23 Jun 2004, 11:49
by Coconut
What Williams could do is go on a big publicity spree in Brixton. Local boy fighting Tyson. Then send Tyson back to Brixton, and hopefully line the streets with Williams fans. Might nark him a bit, after his previously love of Lambeth.

If this fight does happen, I'm on the bus to Brixton to watch it.