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he losses every fight based on crabing holding, pushing with his body, leaning over. its DQ every time.

in the jennings fight he wasnt even crabing and holding at every seconde like he does in every other fights, but he should been dq.

ref warned him onces in 3 i believe it was, in 5 he talked to him "gotte stop holding" and than the point deduction in the 10 and even than he
did not stop holding crabing leaning over. wlad lost.

true. A competent referee would take away 3-4 points, making the fight close on the scorecards and possibly a draw.

And you expect anyone to take you seriously?

Are you drunk, high or clueless? Must be one of them.

Ian1973 wrote:And you expect anyone to take you seriously?

Are you drunk, high or clueless? Must be one of them.

no, i am an expert who knows of what he is talking about


if you like what wlad is showing you, than switch to wrestling and watch that on tv, you'll be the happiest man in the world, trust me

Chepppaaa wrote:

Ian1973 wrote:And you expect anyone to take you seriously?

Are you drunk, high or clueless? Must be one of them.

no, i am an expert who knows of what he is talking about


if you like what wlad is showing you, than switch to wrestling and watch that on tv, you'll be the happiest man in the world, trust me

Er, OK.

Rodian wrote:true. A competent referee would take away 3-4 points, making the fight close on the scorecards and possibly a draw.

the ref talked 2-3 times with wlad telling him top stop, wlad always continued, even in the 10 when he got a point deduction, he started to wrestle right away.

normal it should be, 1-2 verbal warning, than point deduction, than DQ. as i am concerened, he was crabing and holding so much from first to 6 round, that he would have been DQ'd right away around the 6 round.

Ian1973 wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:

Ian1973 wrote:And you expect anyone to take you seriously?

Are you drunk, high or clueless? Must be one of them.

no, i am an expert who knows of what he is talking about


if you like what wlad is showing you, than switch to wrestling and watch that on tv, you'll be the happiest man in the world, trust me

Er, OK.

trust me, do yourself a favour, if you truly like wlad style, i cant even call it boxing, because it aint boxing, than start watching wrestling, greco roman, you be so happy...its wlad action nonstop, youd be the happiest person alive

Klitschko wasn't holding all that much tonight, no more than most boxers.

Against Povetkin he did, though.

Chepppaaa wrote:

Rodian wrote:true. A competent referee would take away 3-4 points, making the fight close on the scorecards and possibly a draw.

the ref talked 2-3 times with wlad telling him top stop, wlad always continued, even in the 10 when he got a point deduction, he started to wrestle right away.

normal it should be, 1-2 verbal warning, than point deduction, than DQ. as i am concerened, he was crabing and holding so much from first to 6 round, that he would have been DQ'd right away around the 6 round.

For someone who claims to know boxing you are pretty dumb. It's 1-2 warnings then a point deduction, followed by a 2nd point deduction and then a DQ on the 3rd infraction not a DQ after a single point deduction.

no, i am an expert who knows of what he is talking about


if you like what wlad is showing you, than switch to wrestling and watch that on tv, you'll be the happiest man in the world, trust me

Er, OK.

Trust me. Do yourself a favour, if you truly like Wlad's style. I cant even call it boxing, because it isn't boxing, then start watching wrestling, Greco Roman, you'll be so happy. It's Wlad action non stop. You'd be the happiest person alive.

I can see you're not the brightest so I've helped you out a bit with your English grammar.

Freedom2013 wrote:Klitschko wasn't holding all that much tonight, no more than most boxers.

Agree. Certainly not enough for a points deduction IMO.

Freedom2013 wrote:Klitschko wasn't holding all that much tonight, no more than most boxers.

Against Povetkin he did, though.

no

Baby Face Finster wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:

Rodian wrote:true. A competent referee would take away 3-4 points, making the fight close on the scorecards and possibly a draw.

the ref talked 2-3 times with wlad telling him top stop, wlad always continued, even in the 10 when he got a point deduction, he started to wrestle right away.

normal it should be, 1-2 verbal warning, than point deduction, than DQ. as i am concerened, he was crabing and holding so much from first to 6 round, that he would have been DQ'd right away around the 6 round.

For someone who claims to know boxing you are pretty dumb. It's 1-2 warnings then a point deduction, followed by a 2nd point deduction and then a DQ on the 3rd infraction not a DQ after a single point deduction.

but you bright ahhaahahahaha its a huge difference

Chepppaaa wrote:he losses every fight based on crabing holding, pushing with his body, leaning over. its DQ every time.

Crabing isn't a word. I don't know why you keep saying this.

Lackeos wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:he losses every fight based on crabing holding, pushing with his body, leaning over. its DQ every time.

Crabing isn't a word. I don't know why you keep saying this.

but you get my point....are we in a forum or in a school?

are we talking boxing, or is everybody dickriding on who is the spelling king?

shout out to my homies in laky city and gainsville florida eeehhhh......!!!! had such a great time there. you deliver.

Lackeos wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:he losses every fight based on crabing holding, pushing with his body, leaning over. its DQ every time.

Crabing isn't a word. I don't know why you keep saying this.

Because he is an "expert". He keeps repeating that hoping that somebody will believe him, but fails due to utter nonsense of most of his posts like this one. Even if another point would have been taken from Wlad, he would still win most of the rounds with two even ones, and he certainly didn't deserve a DQ in this fight.

Chepppaaa wrote:

Lackeos wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:he losses every fight based on crabing holding, pushing with his body, leaning over. its DQ every time.

Crabing isn't a word. I don't know why you keep saying this.

but you get my point....are we in a forum or in a school?

are we talking boxing, or is everybody dickriding on who is the spelling king?

shout out to my homies in laky city and gainsville florida eeehhhh......!!!! had such a great time there. you deliver.

It's not easy to understand what the hell you are talking about. Did you attend school at all?

Ian1973 wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote: but you get my point....are we in a forum or in a school?

are we talking boxing, or is everybody dickriding on who is the spelling king?

shout out to my homies in laky city and gainsville florida eeehhhh......!!!! had such a great time there. you deliver.

It's not easy to understand what the hell you are talking about. Did you attend school at all?

Yes, he attended an Expert School

Chepppaaa wrote:

Baby Face Finster wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:
the ref talked 2-3 times with wlad telling him top stop, wlad always continued, even in the 10 when he got a point deduction, he started to wrestle right away.

normal it should be, 1-2 verbal warning, than point deduction, than DQ. as i am concerened, he was crabing and holding so much from first to 6 round, that he would have been DQ'd right away around the 6 round.

For someone who claims to know boxing you are pretty dumb. It's 1-2 warnings then a point deduction, followed by a 2nd point deduction and then a DQ on the 3rd infraction not a DQ after a single point deduction.

but you bright ahhaahahahaha its a huge difference

Much brighter than you but then again most people on here are.

It's not easy to understand what the hell you are talking about. Did you attend school at all?[/quote]

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not easy to understand. grabing and crabing....oh what a difference, real hard to not understand, when talk about wlad wrestling style

Chepppaaa wrote:he losses every fight based on crabing holding, pushing with his body, leaning over. its DQ every time.

in the jennings fight he wasnt even crabing and holding at every seconde like he does in every other fights, but he should been dq.

ref warned him onces in 3 i believe it was, in 5 he talked to him "gotte stop holding" and than the point deduction in the 10 and even than he
did not stop holding crabing leaning over. wlad lost.

Yes because no 12 round boxing match should have any holding whatsoever. F'n hell, if there was no holding in this sport the fighters would keel over and die in the ring one after another. There HAS to be some holding, have you ever boxed, do you have any idea how exhausting it is to fight that long without taking any breathers whatsoever? You're a damn idiot.

diddy wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:he losses every fight based on crabing holding, pushing with his body, leaning over. its DQ every time.

in the jennings fight he wasnt even crabing and holding at every seconde like he does in every other fights, but he should been dq.

ref warned him onces in 3 i believe it was, in 5 he talked to him "gotte stop holding" and than the point deduction in the 10 and even than he
did not stop holding crabing leaning over. wlad lost.

Yes because no 12 round boxing match should have any holding whatsoever. F'n hell, if there was no holding in this sport the fighters would keel over and die in the ring one after another. There HAS to be some holding, have you ever boxed, do you have any idea how exhausting it is to fight that long without taking any breathers whatsoever? You're a damn idiot.

in lower weights they fight all the time without excessive holding. if wlad cant do it, than it is his problem. if heavyweights cant do it, than its theirs problem. but lower weights, they have no problem giving an excsiting fight with rare holding. what does it tell us, heavyweights dont train enough on condition.

there is a huge difference, between 1 not holding, 2 holding every now and than, 3 holding a lot and 4that sh&(t what wlad is doing 4 excessive holding and wrestling. against 1-2 i dont have nothing, even 3 is okay it its not to much, but 4 should be a dq every time.

Wladimir uses clinching as a definitive part of his overall strategy and I didn't think he was excessive tonight. If anything, your referee from Canada, Michael Griffin, overly involved himself. How many times did he warn Wlad to stop pushing when he shoved off with his jab? I've never seen a fighter warned for pushing in that manner before. Technically, if you're not snapping off your jab with enthusiasm, then you're pushing it. Heavyweight fights in general are uglier than other divisions, tonight wasn't ugly. Holding is a foul that is not supposed to be allowed but clinching is a legitimate tactic and Wladimir simply does it well. If you noticed, many of Klitschko's holds/clinches happened as Jennings lowered his shoulder into his chest and wrapped his left arm around Wlad's waist. I had no problem with his technique tonight and I was rooting against him......I desperately want to see an American reign as heavyweight champ once again. The only issue I have with Klitschko's style is that it can make for boring fights like tonight.

Wlad wasnt bad tonight after the warning in rd 5. After that it was a normal boxing match. Damn near impossible to not hold when ur 6'5 and fight a jennings who likes to get inside and grind. Wlad should have 7 losses tho for holding.

Wlad isnt 5'6 115 lbs. Thats like saying a UFC heavyweight should have the cardio of Demetrious Johnson, a flyweight. He is a HUGE man. Huge men arent going to have the cardio of guys the size of 12 yr old boys. Also, as has been said, shorter guys have to lunge inside to get close to hitting him. Their torsos are going to collide, whats he supposed to do, let them punch him in the face? Holding is inevitable. Unless you're a dumb fighter who doesnt know/do what it takes to win.