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fergusg wrote:“As far as a fight with Ward… I just don’t think the finances are there right yet. It’s not a pay per view fight, Andre’s going to want a big chunk of money. And if Gennady goes up in weight, he’s going to want a big chunk of money and I just don’t think economically that’s going to work…” explained Loeffler.

benion wrote:Ward is on his way to LHW. His next fight is at a catchweight. Ward said GGG and his team only wanted to fight him at a catchweight and he said no. The fight ain't gonna happen. Ward is on his way up to dominate the LHW division. He can't wait on GGG any longer.

benion wrote:Ward is on his way up to dominate the LHW division. He can't wait on GGG any longer.

Riddick Blowe wrote:

benion wrote:Ward is on his way up to dominate the LHW division. He can't wait on GGG any longer.

Ward isn't going to LHW. He doesn't want to get brutally knocked out by Kovalev.

ikorolev wrote:

benion wrote:Ward is on his way to LHW. His next fight is at a catchweight. Ward said GGG and his team only wanted to fight him at a catchweight and he said no. The fight ain't gonna happen. Ward is on his way up to dominate the LHW division. He can't wait on GGG any longer.

He was waiting on Golovkin ? Did he send an offer ? Did he even have a promoter willing to work with him ?

benion wrote:

ikorolev wrote:

benion wrote:Ward is on his way to LHW. His next fight is at a catchweight. Ward said GGG and his team only wanted to fight him at a catchweight and he said no. The fight ain't gonna happen. Ward is on his way up to dominate the LHW division. He can't wait on GGG any longer.

He was waiting on Golovkin ? Did he send an offer ? Did he even have a promoter willing to work with him ?

GGG said in 2012 he's the CAN man. Anybody from 154-168 CAN get it. When it comes to Ward he's no longer the CAN man. At first he said he needed 2 or 3 more fights. Then he wanted to fight him at a catchweight. Then Ward wasnt a big enough draw, he wants JCC JR or Froch. Then he wanted to wait to fight Cotto to unify the division. Now he's talking the winner of MayPac. Anybody, except Ward, from 154-168 CAN get it from GGG.

ikorolev wrote:Ward couldn't bring any money to the table and he still wants to be an A side, as situation with Froch proves.

Now if RN can get money and Andre can still make 168, then the fight can happen.

benion wrote:

ikorolev wrote:Ward couldn't bring any money to the table and he still wants to be an A side, as situation with Froch proves.

Now if RN can get money and Andre can still make 168, then the fight can happen.

Roc Nation has the money. They've shown they're willing to pay with their Quillin/Korobov purse bid, Ward & Cotto contacts. K2 is the one that hasn't shown they're willing to shell out money. And they're with HBO, they don't pay poo anymore for fights if it's not PPV. It's funny how it's perfectly on to say GGG won't fight Ward because he's not a draw but if any other fighter says that they're ducking. Keep enjoying GGG fight the bum of the month club coming in as a 100-1 favorite.

ikorolev wrote:

benion wrote:

ikorolev wrote:Ward couldn't bring any money to the table and he still wants to be an A side, as situation with Froch proves.

Now if RN can get money and Andre can still make 168, then the fight can happen.

Roc Nation has the money. They've shown they're willing to pay with their Quillin/Korobov purse bid, Ward & Cotto contacts. K2 is the one that hasn't shown they're willing to shell out money. And they're with HBO, they don't pay poo anymore for fights if it's not PPV. It's funny how it's perfectly on to say GGG won't fight Ward because he's not a draw but if any other fighter says that they're ducking. Keep enjoying GGG fight the bum of the month club coming in as a 100-1 favorite.

So, why wouldn't RN talk to Loefler and prefer Andre fight a bum at 172 ?

benion wrote: Number one because it's a tune up fight
Number two Ward has been calling GGG out since GGG said anybody from 154_168 CAN get it. Its K2 who's bee making excuses since that statement. They still won't fight him. Their excuse went from he'll be ready in 2-3 fights to Ward ain't a big enough draw.

fergusg wrote:"Golovkin, Team Say They Are Not Ducking Andre Ward"
http://www.BS.com/golovkin-tea ... z3YPjYGLFO

I don’t believe that the situation has changed since the above interviews took place.

fergusg wrote:

Purse Bid Shakedown wrote:

fergusg wrote:"Golovkin, Team Say They Are Not Ducking Andre Ward"
http://www.BS.com/golovkin-tea ... z3YPjYGLFO

I don’t believe that the situation has changed since the above interviews took place.

You're wrong as usual, a lot has changed. For one, Ward is no longer in court with his former promoter, and his new promoter may have money to burn.

Please re-read my first post in this thread again word-for-word and tell me what has changed since the article was published?

Until an offer has been made by Roc Nation for huge sums of money, the fight won't be made. Tom Loeffler's words, not mine!

GGG and Ward won't share the ring anytime soon... and that's something that cannot be debated!

Purse Bid Shakedown wrote:

benion wrote: Number one because it's a tune up fight
Number two Ward has been calling GGG out since GGG said anybody from 154_168 CAN get it. Its K2 who's bee making excuses since that statement. They still won't fight him. Their excuse went from he'll be ready in 2-3 fights to Ward ain't a big enough draw.

Ward has never made an offer like the A-sider he claims to be. His team are not onboard anyway, both Virgil Hunter and RN CEO want the fight to be built up.

http://thaboxingvoice.com/hunter-on-war ... 342?var=no

benion wrote:

Purse Bid Shakedown wrote:

benion wrote: Number one because it's a tune up fight
Number two Ward has been calling GGG out since GGG said anybody from 154_168 CAN get it. Its K2 who's bee making excuses since that statement. They still won't fight him. Their excuse went from he'll be ready in 2-3 fights to Ward ain't a big enough draw.

Ward has never made an offer like the A-sider he claims to be. His team are not onboard anyway, both Virgil Hunter and RN CEO want the fight to be built up.

http://thaboxingvoice.com/hunter-on-war ... 342?var=no

Andre ward wants GGG (2014)
http://www.boxingnews24.com/2014/10/lam ... kin-fight/

Gennady Golovkin: GGG Team draws fire from Andre Ward (2014)
http://www.fightsaga.com/news/item/4171 ... BHe9q.dpuf

Andre Ward calls out Golovlin (2014)
http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/1827 ... for-boxing

Andre Ward ready for Gennady Golovkin, not sure Golovkin wants the fight (2013)
http://www.badlefthook.com/2013/11/17/5 ... -wants-the

Andre Ward: Gennady Golovkin Doesn't Want To Fight
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M1qeztC8zfU

Ward tells GGG & team to either step up or stop calling saying they'll fight anyone from 154-168. They choose the latter (2013)
http://www.BS.com/andre-ward-e ... ion--80661

fergusg wrote:

Purse Bid Shakedown wrote:

fergusg wrote: I just told you what has changed:

1. Ward is able to fight
2. He may be able to produce a nice offer with his RN backing

You didn't read my post word-for-word, yet you keep telling me I'm wrong about things I didn't even mention.

Ward becoming an active fighter again bears no relevance to the post I submitted, as I merely quoted the words of Golovkin and Loeffler... and they didn't even discuss Andre's hiatus.

In terms of your second point... please refrain from using vague and non-committal words like "may" and making assumptions. Roc Nation have not commenced negotiations for a fight, so you point is irrelevant until the fight becomes a reality.

There is no "nice" offer... and one has not been discussed.

Simply put: the points raised by GGG and Loeffler are still relevant.

Ward & Golovkin won't be sharing the ring anytime soon!

Until you can convince me that the fight is imminent, which we both know it isn't, then stop being needlessly argumentative!

ikorolev wrote:The only reasons why that fight hasn't happened were
- Ward's legal troubles
- Insufficient money on the table from both sides