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What's up with Wilder?
Posted: 27 Apr 2015, 17:23
by jujigatame
Been about 3-4 months since his title win, any news of his first defense? I figured they'd want him fighting somewhat frequently since he's in his prime right now. Wlad is fighting Fury so Wlad/Wilder probably can't happen until at least early 2016.
Re: What's up with Wilder?
Posted: 27 Apr 2015, 17:26
by crusader
It's been reported that June 20th is being eyed for his first defense. I expected him to fight Cunningham but certain articles suggested that it would be someone else, though no names were given.
Re: What's up with Wilder?
Posted: 27 Apr 2015, 17:31
by hurricanemitch14
Broke his hand....cleared for june return
Re: What's up with Wilder?
Posted: 27 Apr 2015, 17:33
by Badhusker
If he fights anything less than a top 10 ranked guy, he will get a huge amount of criticism, and rightfully so.
Re: What's up with Wilder?
Posted: 27 Apr 2015, 17:41
by Horse
Badhusker wrote:If he fights anything less than a top 10 ranked guy, he will get a huge amount of criticism, and rightfully so.
Top 15 would do.
Re: What's up with Wilder?
Posted: 27 Apr 2015, 18:02
by jujigatame
I wouldn't have that much of a problem with Cunningham, just because I think he got brutally robbed against Glazkov and he's a good guy who deserves a nice payday.
Povetkin would be great but that's probably a total fantasy. Pulev, Glazkov, or even Tony Thompson would be decent. Just please no Chris Arreola. Please.
Re: What's up with Wilder?
Posted: 27 Apr 2015, 18:56
by JCS
Tarver/Wilder anyone?
Re: What's up with Wilder?
Posted: 27 Apr 2015, 19:06
by Lackeos
WBC top 15 ratings
1 .- Alexander Povetkin (Russia) SILVER
2 .- Mike Perez (Cuba/Ireland)
3 .- Tyson Fury (GB) EBU/BBBC
4 .- Vyacheslav Glazkov (Ukraine)
5 .- Bermane Stiverne (Haiti/Canada)
6 .- Lucas Browne (Australia)
7 .- Anthony Joshua (GB) INTL
8 .- Andy Ruiz (Mexico) NABF
9 .- Manuel Charr (Lebanon/Syria) BALTIC
10 .- Tony Thompson (US) AMERICA
11 .- Artur Szpilka (Poland)
12 .- Eric Molina (US)
13 .- Chris Arreola (US)
14 .- Carlos Takam (Cameroon)
15 .- Mark De Mori (Australia/Croatia)
Povetkin is fighting Perez, Wlad is probably fighting Fury next, Glazkov is probably going to bide his time until he cashes-in on the IBF mandatory shot at Klitschko, and Stiverne probably won't get an immediate rematch. Everyone from #6 - 15 seems like a plausible candidate to me, to varying degrees. Perhaps it will be Lucas Browne, Andy Ruiz, Tony Thompson, or Artur Szpilka.
Re: What's up with Wilder?
Posted: 27 Apr 2015, 19:51
by N2 Shape
Andy Ruiz might make some sense being Mexican a fight in Cali would be BIG or Vegas. He's undefeated and a puncher in his own right
Re: What's up with Wilder?
Posted: 28 Apr 2015, 13:46
by Dennis
I highly doubt that Wilder will fight a Top Rank or Main Events boxer in his voluntary title defense. He probably will fight Artur Szpilka, Steve Cunningham, Antonio Tarver or Chris Arreola since all are with Haymon.
Re: What's up with Wilder?
Posted: 28 Apr 2015, 13:58
by Horse
Dennis wrote:I highly doubt that Wilder will fight a Top Rank or Main Events boxer in his voluntary title defense. He probably will fight Artur Szpilka, Steve Cunningham, Antonio Tarver or Chris Arreola since all are with Haymon.
Arreola would be a pathetic opponent.
Re: What's up with Wilder?
Posted: 28 Apr 2015, 14:04
by KBB
I sure hope he doesn't take that bum (Arreola), Tarver is waiting for him and I think that would be a good scrap.
Re: What's up with Wilder?
Posted: 28 Apr 2015, 14:11
by Yes We Can
Horse wrote:Dennis wrote:I highly doubt that Wilder will fight a Top Rank or Main Events boxer in his voluntary title defense. He probably will fight Artur Szpilka, Steve Cunningham, Antonio Tarver or Chris Arreola since all are with Haymon.
Arreola would be a pathetic opponent.
So was Wilder when he won the belt.
Re: What's up with Wilder?
Posted: 28 Apr 2015, 14:13
by Horse
Yes We Can wrote:So was Wilder when he won the belt.
No, he wasn't.
Re: What's up with Wilder?
Posted: 28 Apr 2015, 14:17
by Yes We Can
Horse wrote:Yes We Can wrote:So was Wilder when he won the belt.
No, he wasn't.
His record was better than Arreola's prior to facing Stiverne?
Don't even try and pull that one Neddy.
Re: What's up with Wilder?
Posted: 28 Apr 2015, 14:20
by Horse
Yes We Can wrote:His record was better than Arreola's prior to facing Stiverne?
Don't even try and pull that one Neddy.
He was far more credible before fighting Stiverne than Arreola is now.
When was the last time Arreola beat someone as good as Scott?
Re: What's up with Wilder?
Posted: 28 Apr 2015, 14:27
by Yes We Can
Horse wrote:Yes We Can wrote:His record was better than Arreola's prior to facing Stiverne?
Don't even try and pull that one Neddy.
He was far more credible before fighting Stiverne than Arreola is now.
When was the last time Arreola beat someone as good as Scott?
Scott is a great name to have on your cv, until you watch the fight and appreciate the circumstances. The Chisora bail out was bad, the Wilder one should be career ending.
Arreola would be the 2nd best name on Deontays record. Not a great first defence but not terrible.
Re: What's up with Wilder?
Posted: 28 Apr 2015, 14:41
by Horse
Yes We Can wrote:Scott is a great name to have on your cv, until you watch the fight and appreciate the circumstances. The Chisora bail out was bad, the Wilder one should be career ending.
Arreola would be the 2nd best name on Deontays record. Not a great first defence but not terrible.
Scott's better than Arreola.
Arreola doesn't deserve any more world title shots.
Stiverne beat Arreola easily twice, so what would beating him prove?
Re: What's up with Wilder?
Posted: 28 Apr 2015, 14:52
by ikorolev
I think that unless it is something big like Wlad or at least Fury, Haymon will keep feeding Wilder very beatable opponents.
Re: What's up with Wilder?
Posted: 28 Apr 2015, 14:55
by cold187
hes out on june 20th
Re: What's up with Wilder?
Posted: 28 Apr 2015, 15:01
by Yes We Can
Horse wrote:Yes We Can wrote:Scott is a great name to have on your cv, until you watch the fight and appreciate the circumstances. The Chisora bail out was bad, the Wilder one should be career ending.
Arreola would be the 2nd best name on Deontays record. Not a great first defence but not terrible.
Scott's better than Arreola.
Arreola doesn't deserve any more world title shots.
Stiverne beat Arreola easily twice, so what would beating him prove?
Scott has done nothing to suggest he is better than Arreola. if they fought he would likely quit like he did against Chisora and Wilder.
C'mon Horse, triangle theories are not the answer. I'm not disputing the fact Arreola doesn't deserve it, but neither did Deontay. Arreola would be the second best win on his record, and the likelihood is would give him 6-12 rounds of action, whilst posing a couple of problems early door (something Malik was never likely to do BTW).
Re: What's up with Wilder?
Posted: 28 Apr 2015, 15:25
by Horse
Yes We Can wrote:Scott has done nothing to suggest he is better than Arreola. if they fought he would likely quit like he did against Chisora and Wilder.
C'mon Horse, triangle theories are not the answer. I'm not disputing the fact Arreola doesn't deserve it, but neither did Deontay. Arreola would be the second best win on his record, and the likelihood is would give him 6-12 rounds of action, whilst posing a couple of problems early door (something Malik was never likely to do BTW).
You rate Arreola. I think he's garbage.
I can't stand people hyping up that fat waste of space. Scott would beat Arreola, he is awful.
Re: What's up with Wilder?
Posted: 28 Apr 2015, 15:45
by jujigatame
I think Arreola may be marginally better than Scott, when you factor in his durability and Scott's tendency to fall down and not get up against anyone with power.
That said, there are a LOT of better options for Wilder to face.
Re: What's up with Wilder?
Posted: 28 Apr 2015, 16:32
by Yes We Can
Horse wrote:Yes We Can wrote:Scott has done nothing to suggest he is better than Arreola. if they fought he would likely quit like he did against Chisora and Wilder.
C'mon Horse, triangle theories are not the answer. I'm not disputing the fact Arreola doesn't deserve it, but neither did Deontay. Arreola would be the second best win on his record, and the likelihood is would give him 6-12 rounds of action, whilst posing a couple of problems early door (something Malik was never likely to do BTW).
You rate Arreola. I think he's garbage.
I can't stand people hyping up that fat waste of space. Scott would beat Arreola, he is awful.
I would never hype him, i think he's average at best. But i dont think its a terrible fight for Wilder at this stage when in comparison to the rest of his cv..
Re: What's up with Wilder?
Posted: 28 Apr 2015, 16:39
by Horse
Yes We Can wrote:I would never hype him, i think he's average at best. But i dont think its a terrible fight for Wilder at this stage when in comparison to the rest of his cv..
Suggesting Arreola getting another title shot isn't terrible
is overhyping him.
Wilder dominated Stiverne who easily beat fat boy Arreola twice. The fight is totally unacceptable.