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Freddie Roach’s belief that Manny Pacquiao should slide back to light welterweight was bolstered Thursday afternoon.

With the official weigh-in of Pacquiao versus Floyd Mayweather Jr. set just a few hours away, the Hall of Fame trainer took Pacquiao’s unofficial weight and was surprised by what he found out: Pacquiao was too light and would be at a great disadvantage if Mayweather does bulk up to 160 pounds on fight night.

“ Manny was down to 143 pounds yesterday, so I told him to eat a good meal and then we will do a light workout later today. Tomorrow, he will have breakfast in the morning and then get on the scale.”


http://sports.inquirer.net/179942/pacqu ... ch-worried

Chris Williams of Boxing News 24 writes:

In what has to be seen as an area if huge concern for Manny Pacquiao for his fight against Floyd Mayweather Jr. on Saturday night, Pacquiao’s trainer Freddie Roach is saying that Pacquiao’s weight dropped to just 143 pounds on Thursday.

This is down seven pounds from the 150 pounds that Roach had been proudly been talking about in the past couple of weeks. Upon discovering that Pacquiao’s weight had dropped to 143, Roach told him to have a nice meal. However, at this point it’s not realistic to assume that there will any movement in Pacquiao’s weight by the time the fight takes place on Saturday.

Roach can stuff Pacquiao with food all he wants before the Mayweather fight, but there’s no way that Pacquiao is going to put on seven pounds of natural muscle by fight time.

“Manny was down to 143 pounds yesterday, so I told him to eat a good meal and then we will do a light workout later today,” Roach said via Fightnews.com. “Tomorrow he will have breakfast in the morning and then get on the scale.”

I think it’s a losing effort on Roach’s part in trying to get Pacquiao’s weight back up. If Pacquiao dropped seven pounds in just a two to three weeks, it suggests that he’s been working out too hard and not putting in enough calories to keep his weight up. That’s on Roach and the guy that monitors Pacquiao’s food intake. They should have been putting him on a scale daily so that they could notice the weight drop and arrest it before it got to this point.

Mayweather will definitely be coming into Saturday’s fight at around 150 pounds, possibly a little higher. If Pacquiao only weighs 143 for the fight, then it’s going to give Mayweather close to a 10 pound weight advantage. If you Mayweather that kind of a weight advantage, along with his six inch reach advantage, he’s going to beat you on size alone.

Pacquiao is looking like someone who is clearly a weight division below Mayweather at this point, and not a true welterweight. This suggests that Pacquiao is going to have a really tough time on Saturday night with Mayweather’s size, and it could be a huge problem if Mayweather starts walking him down looking to punch his lights out.

“If we were to lose to an undefeated fighter like this, there’s no shame in that,” Roach said. “Floyd’s a good fighter, but he has picked his opponents. I don’t think he picked Manny. I think he was forced to take this fight.”

I don’t know about you but I’m starting to smell fear coming from Roach. This isn’t the same cocky guy that has been bragging for weeks how Pacquiao is going to go out and beat Mayweather by either a knockout or a lopsided decision. Roach is now sounding like someone who realizes that his fighter Pacquiao doesn’t have a chance of winning the fight. It’s a pity because I was hoping that it would be a spirited fight, but it now seems like Roach is already accepting defeat ahead of time.


http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/05/pac ... ays-roach/

koolkc107 wrote:Freddie Roach’s belief that Manny Pacquiao should slide back to light welterweight was bolstered Thursday afternoon.

With the official weigh-in of Pacquiao versus Floyd Mayweather Jr. set just a few hours away, the Hall of Fame trainer took Pacquiao’s unofficial weight and was surprised by what he found out: Pacquiao was too light and would be at a great disadvantage if Mayweather does bulk up to 160 pounds on fight night.

“ Manny was down to 143 pounds yesterday, so I told him to eat a good meal and then we will do a light workout later today. Tomorrow, he will have breakfast in the morning and then get on the scale.”


http://sports.inquirer.net/179942/pacqu ... ch-worried

More excuses for Manny for when he loses is what this sounds like to me. When has Floyd ever ballooned or went to 160lbs on fight night? (Clear BS here).

If anything, Floyd has always come in on Fight Night lighter than the WW limit or the Jr MW limit.

KBB wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:Freddie Roach’s belief that Manny Pacquiao should slide back to light welterweight was bolstered Thursday afternoon.

With the official weigh-in of Pacquiao versus Floyd Mayweather Jr. set just a few hours away, the Hall of Fame trainer took Pacquiao’s unofficial weight and was surprised by what he found out: Pacquiao was too light and would be at a great disadvantage if Mayweather does bulk up to 160 pounds on fight night.

“ Manny was down to 143 pounds yesterday, so I told him to eat a good meal and then we will do a light workout later today. Tomorrow, he will have breakfast in the morning and then get on the scale.”


http://sports.inquirer.net/179942/pacqu ... ch-worried

More excuses for Manny for when he loses is what this sounds like to me. When has Floyd ever ballooned or went to 160lbs on fight night? (Clear BS here).

If anything, Floyd has always come in on Fight Night lighter than the WW limit or the Jr MW limit.

I can find no evidence that Floyd gains more than a few pounds after weighing in.

For example, you can look up his first fight with Maidana on this site and it will tell you he weighed 148 the night of that fight

koolkc107 wrote:I can find no evidence that Floyd gains more than a few pounds after weighing in.

For example, you can look up his first fight with Maidana on this site and it will tell you he weighed 148 the night of that fight

I know, right!! This is how you can tell that Roach is worried and that he is trying to build in excuses for Manny once he loses this fight.

KBB wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:I can find no evidence that Floyd gains more than a few pounds after weighing in.

For example, you can look up his first fight with Maidana on this site and it will tell you he weighed 148 the night of that fight

I know, right!! This is how you can tell that Roach is worried and that he is trying to build in excuses for Manny once he loses this fight.

Yeah, I kinda did a double take too.

143 has never been a problem before.

He weighed in at 143 and 3/4 his last fight vs Algieri...

145 for Pac, 146 for Money.

Weight is no excuse in this fight.

koolkc107 wrote:145 for Pac, 146 for Money.

Weight is no excuse in this fight.

exactly, both ripped shreddded in tremendous shape. judging by the shape, both look in prime shape =)

What the hell just happened? 145?!!! And he immediately starts eating something and drinking after weighing in like he was worried about it. I don't get it. This is going to be bad.

caldo2025 wrote:What the hell just happened? 145?!!! And he immediately starts eating something and drinking after weighing in like he was worried about it. I don't get it. This is going to be bad.

I did not understand the eating immediately after weigh in.
Does Pacquiao plan to gain a bunch before fight time?
This is just strange

Maybe he was hungry? I really wouldn't read too much into it, it's not like he's going to be weight drained is it, he's not a big welterweight, he's usually under the limit. Fighters are used to depriving themselves of food during the run in to a fight, so he was probably treating himself.

The idea that weight is an issue in this fight is ludicrous, both weighed comfortably inside the limit, as expected, on fight night, I don't think either man is going to weight a great deal more on fight night.

It's just not an issue for this fight.

caldo2025 wrote:What the hell just happened? 145?!!! And he immediately starts eating something and drinking after weighing in like he was worried about it. I don't get it. This is going to be bad.

he was eating a butter finger. He was paid to do so.

https://twitter.com/butterfinger

Rodian wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:What the hell just happened? 145?!!! And he immediately starts eating something and drinking after weighing in like he was worried about it. I don't get it. This is going to be bad.

he was eating a butter finger. He was paid to do so.

https://twitter.com/butterfinger

And chugging water? lmao. Maybe God told him to do it.

Their weights are both fine. I hope whoever wins, makes a statement and wins clearly. Controversial decisions are bad for boxing.

Scales from the dark ages .......... errrr exact , errrrrrrr exact .... tp tap, tap tap, expect scandal in pac may 2 3 4 5

If what i'm reading is actually factual, Manny is not going to weight more than 145 tonight. Floyd will probably come in at 154 because he's the ultimate professional. So they will be come in at a natural, personally comfortable weight and it will turn into an almost 10lb advantage for Floyd. He already has 5"s of reach advantage and a couple inches in height. It reminds me of JMM vs Floyd. This is really looking like a huge mismatch now. Come on Manny...one punch can change everything.

caldo2025 wrote:If what i'm reading is actually factual, Manny is not going to weight more than 145 tonight. Floyd will probably come in at 154 because he's the ultimate professional. So they will be come in at a natural, personally comfortable weight and it will turn into an almost 10lb advantage for Floyd. He already has 5"s of reach advantage and a couple inches in height. It reminds me of JMM vs Floyd. This is really looking like a huge mismatch now. Come on Manny...one punch can change everything.

I think Floyd entering the ring at around 150-151 is more likely than 154. Pacquiao will more than likely enter the ring at his unnofficial weight right around the WW limit of 147. Those few pounds will mean nothing compared to the height and reach advantage of Floyd, both Floyd and Pacquaio have proven time and time again that skills wins fights more so than weight and neither guy normally blows up after the official weigh ins and don't see that being a factor here either. This fight is going to come down to speed, game plans and execution. I don't think their unofficial weights going into the ring with be a factor at all in tonights fight and don't expect there to be any more than 5 lb. difference between the fighters. I believe who ever wins will be due to them being the better man on the night.

I just don't like these constant excuses, we know damn well Pacquiao is as ready as he could be for a fight of this caliber. I just don't want to hear excuses from either side if their guy doesn't win. I'm pulling for Floyd in a big way but if he loses I'm more than willing to eat crow, I don't have a single excuse if Pacquiao wins this fight other than him being the better fighter on that night and wish people would just stop making all these damn excuses and that's exactly what they are, built in excuses to more than likely cover up their biased opinion on a inevitable outcome.

caldo2025 wrote:If what i'm reading is actually factual, Manny is not going to weight more than 145 tonight. Floyd will probably come in at 154 because he's the ultimate professional. So they will be come in at a natural, personally comfortable weight and it will turn into an almost 10lb advantage for Floyd. He already has 5"s of reach advantage and a couple inches in height. It reminds me of JMM vs Floyd. This is really looking like a huge mismatch now. Come on Manny...one punch can change everything.

I don't think Floyd will weigh any more than about 150.

From all info i have been able to see, Floyd gains only about 3-5 lbs after weigh in- and at least two occasions has weighed the same or less on fight night.