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try watching mayweather vs manny without sound ................what are your scorecards without sound ?

please not, cant do it again, to boring.

i watched it a second time and for me it was

7 rds floyd
4-5 rds manny
1-2 draw

floyd won close to me, but it was one fight that couldve gone either way or draw, but no way, the exceptional schooling of floyd over pac people try to make out of it.

I watched it only once, with Korean commentary, which I (sadly) could not understand.

I had a draw, but could have easily seen Mayweather by very close decision.

The same score, because I am not a moron.

9-3

fergusg wrote:I keep reading threads about people asking us to re-evaluate the Mayweather-Pacquiao bout by watching the fight again either in slow motion or with the sound off.

I think the usual agenda is to persuade us change our minds in order to convince us that Manny should have been awarded the victory over Floyd.

To settle the matter and end the discussion… Mayweather Jr. clearly won the fight… and I have watched the contest multiple times. Manny’s loss is in the record books. And these guys aren’t going to have a rematch anytime soon.

Therefore, there’s nothing else to talk about that hasn’t already been laboured over at length.

Have we watched it in black and white or in reverse yet?

Some say if you watch the fight backwards, there are subliminal messages telling you to order Mayweather's next PPV fight

Batley18 wrote:The same score, because I am not a moron.

Yep that pretty much covers it.

In guessing with no sound you mean , no commentary

But no, the fight was a one and done for me, don't plan on revisiting it


I had it 7-4-1 floyd. And guarantee the announcers didn't sway me on any way

Scoring a fight without commentary is a good exercise, and from what I've heard, many commentators were biased towards Floyd in this fight. I saw it in a noisy pub and couldn't hear the commentary and was surprised at how wide the scorecards were. There were a lot of close rounds that could have gone either way.

If you watch with the sound off, the margin for Floyd just gets wider.

Badhusker wrote:9-3

9-3 just like you did, for someone to say it was close is no more than them trying their best to give Manny some crazy benefit of the doubt in order for them to swallow the pill of him losing so easily.

The Pacquiao faithful are showing their saltiness and unwillingness to admit their boy lost this fight so decisively.

KBB wrote:

Badhusker wrote:9-3

9-3 just like you did, for someone to say it was close is no more than them trying their best to give Manny some crazy benefit of the doubt in order for them to swallow the pill of him losing so easily.

The Pacquiao faithful are showing their saltiness and unwillingness to admit their boy lost this fight so decisively.

Just why I started a thread asking them to man up and explain in detail how they got what they did.

I scored it 116-112 the night of the fight.

But every time I have watched it after, I get no closer than 117-111.

118-110 to 116-112 all in favor of Floyd are accurate scores. In slow motion, without sound, with sound with any of the commentators calling the fight. Floyd wins at least 8 rounds.

I personally feel only rounds 4 and 10 are the rounds that Pacquiao actually won clearly (but that not clearly), rounds 6 and 12 IMO were very close rounds, while in round 6 Pacquiao having the better moment, but Floyd doing more through out the round. Round 12 only because Floyd took the round off because he already had the fight in the bag and didn't do much, but still a close round that could have gone either way.

I was actually shocked when I saw the official cards and the judges gave Pacquiao round 9 and then gave Floyd round 10. Floyd clearly won round 9 with little to no problems and was one of the easier rounds to score. Round 10 was the only round that Pacquiao clearly out landed Floyd when I watched it in slow motion, but neither guy did much at all in that round.

NateJR wrote:118-110 to 116-112 all in favor of Floyd are accurate scores. In slow motion, without sound, with sound with any of the commentators calling the fight. Floyd wins at least 8 rounds.

I personally feel only rounds 4 and 10 are the rounds that Pacquiao actually won clearly (but that not clearly), rounds 6 and 12 IMO were very close rounds, while in round 6 Pacquiao having the better moment, but Floyd doing more through out the round. Round 12 only because Floyd took the round off because he already had the fight in the bag and didn't do much, but still a close round that could have gone either way.

I was actually shocked when I saw the official cards and the judges gave Pacquiao round 9 and then gave Floyd round 10. Floyd clearly won round 9 with little to no problems and was one of the easier rounds to score. Round 10 was the only round that Pacquiao clearly out landed Floyd when I watched it in slow motion, but neither guy did much at all in that round.

I'd watch the 12th round again, people make the assumption that all Money did was run away in the 12th but when you watch it again you can clearly see that he landed more shots, the cleaner shots and used the following better as well:

Ring Generalship
Defense
Clean punching

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyHLoaCj62E

Effective aggressiveness ?, or some will say clean effective punches

That is to say if you land and it does nothing to stop your opponent from continuing attack. How clean and effective are you ?

By running you're clearly giving away the effective aggressiveness and your punches having much effect


I always cite Paulie v Juan Diaz 1, People and announcers were all for paulie. But if you watch the fight , I don't care if paulie outlanded him 10:1. The punches had no effect on Juan, and every time Diaz threw, it was backing paulie up

KBB wrote:

NateJR wrote:118-110 to 116-112 all in favor of Floyd are accurate scores. In slow motion, without sound, with sound with any of the commentators calling the fight. Floyd wins at least 8 rounds.

I personally feel only rounds 4 and 10 are the rounds that Pacquiao actually won clearly (but that not clearly), rounds 6 and 12 IMO were very close rounds, while in round 6 Pacquiao having the better moment, but Floyd doing more through out the round. Round 12 only because Floyd took the round off because he already had the fight in the bag and didn't do much, but still a close round that could have gone either way.

I was actually shocked when I saw the official cards and the judges gave Pacquiao round 9 and then gave Floyd round 10. Floyd clearly won round 9 with little to no problems and was one of the easier rounds to score. Round 10 was the only round that Pacquiao clearly out landed Floyd when I watched it in slow motion, but neither guy did much at all in that round.

I'd watch the 12th round again, people make the assumption that all Money did was run away in the 12th but when you watch it again you can clearly see that he landed more shots, the cleaner shots and used the following better as well:

Ring Generalship
Defense
Clean punching

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyHLoaCj62E

I was just telling folks this earlier.

Floyd won those 3 criteria pretty much every round of the fight.

Only Manny's few successes in the forth criterion, effective aggression, gave him any rounds at all.

Only in rounds 3 and 4 did Manny win 2 of the 4, effective aggression and clean punching.

You could give him 9 or 10 (some gave him both but I couldn't) for effective aggression trumping what Floyd was doing.

But that is about it.

Manny did not win 11 or 12.

koolkc107 wrote:I was just telling folks this earlier. Floyd won those 3 criteria pretty much every round of the fight.
Only Manny's few successes in the forth criterion, effective aggression, gave him any rounds at all. Only in rounds 3 and 4 did Manny win 2 of the 4, effective aggression and clean punching. You could give him 9 or 10 (some gave him both but I couldn't) for effective aggression trumping what Floyd was doing. But that is about it. Manny did not win 11 or 12.

The reason is simple, the one thing all Manny Pacquiao fans have in common besides their Hate for Floyd Mayweather and his fans and their lack of objectivity is that they only score one thing when he fights, his aggression and it is often not even effective.

Take for instance the first Tim Bradley fight when Lampley was cheerleading punches that weren't even landing, all Manny has to do is throw a lot of shots and the stupid PacTURDS and casual fans get caught up in all the hollering about his ineffective activity and you'd swear by listening to them that he is knocking the other guy's head off even though it is clear (at least to me it is) that he is mostly missing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riSEb-hdq8M

Notice all the missing and the crowd screaming as though Packy is landing when he really isn't!!

116-112 Mayweather, same score every time.

a better thread title would be " try watching manny vs Mayweather without falling asleep"

Watched it in a casino with no sound. Scored it 9-3 to Floyd. Though I was drunk. And I certainly don't want to watch it sober.

FloydtheDuck wrote:a better thread title would be " try watching manny vs Mayweather without falling asleep"

Yep, and we can thank Manny Pacquiao for not doing nothing which may the fight what it was.

Chepppaaa wrote:please not, cant do it again, to boring.

i watched it a second time and for me it was

7 rds floyd
4-5 rds manny
1-2 draw

floyd won close to me, but it was one fight that couldve gone either way or draw, but no way, the exceptional schooling of floyd over pac people try to make out of it.

that's about how i see it.

KBB wrote:

FloydtheDuck wrote:a better thread title would be " try watching manny vs Mayweather without falling asleep"

Yep, and we can thank Manny Pacquiao for not doing nothing which may the fight what it was.

Manny tried to make the fight some, he tried he just couldn't do it. Floyd has a negative style at times too it's on BOTH guys to make a fight. It's obvious that was a boring uneventful fight and it's obviously on both.

SFW wrote:

KBB wrote:Manny tried to make the fight some, he tried he just couldn't do it. Floyd has a negative style at times too it's on BOTH guys to make a fight. It's obvious that was a boring uneventful fight and it's obviously on both.

Ok fair enough

I was ready to see Plankiouao version 2.0. It was there. He didn't go for it, should of. Floyd would have got it.