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Ulterior Motive For Torodol Shot?

Posted: 14 May 2015, 14:14
by koolkc107
There is a theory making the rounds that Pacquiao was not only not injured before the fight, but that his request for the torodol shot was for performance enhancing purposes.

Let me go on record as saying I believe that at some time in the past Manny sustained a shoulder injury.

What I am not sure of is if it was injured during camp (you have eyewitness who say it was) or whether it affected the fight itself (my own eyes tell me nothing was wrong with Pacquiao that night).

Now comes a theory that, while not altogether credible, can only be disproven by Manny's own medical records. To wit:

...why would Team Pacquiao be pursuing an injection if, per their new “official” story, the shoulder was fine as of the day of the fight? Petrocelli admits that doctors examined Pacquiao prior to the fight and gave him the thumbs up to go ahead.

One theory is that the medication in that injection may have something to do with Team Pacquiao’s pursuit of the shot.

According to all published accounts, Team Pacquiao requested an injection of Toradol, a powerful anti-inflammatory, for the fighter about two hours before the bout.

Toradol is a legitimate, USADA-approved anti-inflammatory used on patients suffering acute pain from either injury or the post-surgery recovery process. There are many legitimate reasons to use Toradol.

But there are also many illegitimate uses for this product.

It’s the sporting world’s worst kept secret that Toradol has been widely used as somewhat of a legalized cheat or substitute “pep pill” for otherwise healthy players looking to be temporarily rejuvenated for the game. In a legitimately injured athlete Toradol completely masks the effects of that injury, allowing the player to perform as if nothing were wrong. In an athlete not suffering from a debilitating injury, however, it turns him into what could be described as a virtually indestructible force.

The NFL has especially leaned on the use of Toradol, with teams reportedly issuing across the board pre-game injections for their players, injured or not. This dangerous practice has been mentioned in several lawsuits against the NFL from ex-players concerned with the league’s lack of safety precautions.

Toradol, aside from reinvigorating the body, also masks the effects of cramps and, more importantly, wipes clean the symptoms of a concussion. Under the effect of Toradol, an athlete could be seriously injured and dangerously concussed without even knowing it until much later.

“…End the toradol shots...before the game,” said former NFL quarterback Chris Simms. “[it's] basically a super strong pain killer that makes your body numb. You could go run through the wall and you wouldn't really know it until two or three days later.”

Major league pitcher Jonathan Papelbon has also spoken publicly about the routine use of Toradol as a hyper-charged “pick me up” rather than a real pain management treatment.

“You had to get it about 30 minutes before a game, and it made me feel pretty damn good. It only lasted about 4 hours maximum." Papelbon told MedPage Today.

So, could the attempt to secure a Toradol injection before the Mayweather fight have been a cynical stab at abusing the rules and acquiring a safe cheat for the bout? Assuming Pacquiao’s shoulder was well enough to go ahead with the fight--which is the official position now-- was the purpose of the Toradol to eliminate all the typical aches and pains of the athlete, stifle the reoccurrence of Pacquiao’s frequent leg cramps, mask the effects of a concussion, and/or create an artificial sense of infinite well-being and supreme health within Manny? Could it have been all of the above? None of the above?


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Re: Ulterior Motive For Torodol Shot?

Posted: 14 May 2015, 14:42
by Rexob
YAWN!

Re: Ulterior Motive For Torodol Shot?

Posted: 14 May 2015, 15:11
by Mensa07
Shoulder certainly looked okay during the fight.

Re: Ulterior Motive For Torodol Shot?

Posted: 14 May 2015, 15:55
by koolkc107
Malignaggi chimes in:

“Every pro athlete that has been a pro athlete for a certain amount of time has some wear and tear on his shoulder,” Malignaggi said on Wednesday. “I guarantee if you MRI my right shoulder I’ll have a little bit of wear and tear because I feel it when I lay down at night. It’s not going to make or break me. It’s just small things that happen during the course of an athletic career. Clearly, Pacquiao’s wasn’t severe. You can tell by the way he was fighting. If it was that severe, that would have been the first thing to come out of his mouth. Instead he thought he won the fight.”

Malignaggi also didn’t shy away from suggesting Pacquiao had his reasons for refusing random drug testing in 2010. “Think about it. He threw 50 million dollars out the window for not liking needles and now he’s complaining he wasn’t allowed to get a needle (for his injured shoulder against (Mayweather),” Malignaggi said.


http://nypost.com/2015/05/13/brooklyns- ... er-injury/

Re: Ulterior Motive For Torodol Shot?

Posted: 14 May 2015, 16:16
by ikorolev
Yep, and the surgery was done just for fun.

Re: Ulterior Motive For Torodol Shot?

Posted: 14 May 2015, 17:12
by KBB
Mensa07 wrote:Shoulder certainly looked okay during the fight.

Exactly!!

Notice how they said it was like this since 2008 and we know he's had numerous victories from that time up until Mayweather beat his ass, now all of sudden it's a BIG EXCUSE!!

Pacquiao fans are here crying like little girls. LOL, this forum is becoming a joke with the amount of whining they are doing, one would think Floyd is in the ring still kicking his ass with the way they are carrying on.

Re: Ulterior Motive For Torodol Shot?

Posted: 14 May 2015, 17:49
by koolkc107
ikorolev wrote:Yep, and the surgery was done just for fun.
Or for show.

How many times does a knee get scoped and they find little or nothing wrong?

Or maybe there WAS an ongoing problem from back in 2008 that Manny never used as an excuse, even when he got KTFO...

...but waited all of a half hour to trot out as explanation for his most embarrassing one-sided loss since he got Torrecampoed.

Re: Ulterior Motive For Torodol Shot?

Posted: 14 May 2015, 18:25
by Lackeos
koolkc107 wrote:Malignaggi also didn’t shy away from suggesting Pacquiao had his reasons for refusing random drug testing in 2010. “Think about it. He threw 50 million dollars out the window for not liking needles and now he’s complaining he wasn’t allowed to get a needle (for his injured shoulder against (Mayweather),” Malignaggi said.[/i]

http://nypost.com/2015/05/13/brooklyns- ... er-injury/
Think about it, he "threw 50 million dollars out the window," only to get paid over $100 million for the exact same fight. In other words, the window threw over $50 million back at him.

Malignaggi has consistently acted as a Mayweather dick-rider throughout the years. Let's council the opinion of the completely unbiased Mayweather dick-rider.

Re: Ulterior Motive For Torodol Shot?

Posted: 14 May 2015, 19:08
by koolkc107
Lackeos wrote:
koolkc107 wrote:Malignaggi also didn’t shy away from suggesting Pacquiao had his reasons for refusing random drug testing in 2010. “Think about it. He threw 50 million dollars out the window for not liking needles and now he’s complaining he wasn’t allowed to get a needle (for his injured shoulder against (Mayweather),” Malignaggi said.[/i]

http://nypost.com/2015/05/13/brooklyns- ... er-injury/
Think about it, he "threw 50 million dollars out the window," only to get paid over $100 million for the exact same fight. In other words, the window threw over $50 million back at him.

Malignaggi has consistently acted as a Mayweather dick-rider throughout the years. Let's council the opinion of the completely unbiased Mayweather dick-rider.
Well, that is a good point except

1) Maybe the fight is more competitive 5 years ago (I doubt it but you never know) and it leads to one or 2 more fights.

2) It doesn't matter what the guarantee was 5 years ago (although it is responsible journalism for Paulie to stick to the 50M), what matters is how many buys it would have done and that Pac was in line for a 50/50 split back then.

You think the fight doesn't do 3 or 4 million buys back then too? I do.

Manny certainly would have made a lot more than 50M then as well.

As for Paulie being a rider of Floyd, you may have a point...but I never see or hear what he says refuted.