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Imagine if Audley had turned his back like Bonin did...

Posted: 23 Jun 2004, 02:45
by deadpan
There is NO WAY the ref would've stepped in as swiftly as he did.

Regardless of the tragedies that John Keane has witnessed.


So based on that logic, wasn't the stoppage dodgy?

Posted: 23 Jun 2004, 05:26
by J
premature but depedn what you mean by dodgy, at the end of the day guy was gonna ko'd was down on points if he didnt and was losing that round.
All points to an Aud win to me, so the shouts of Bonin was robbed are bollox in my view.

Posted: 23 Jun 2004, 05:28
by Guest
I know there are a lot of Audley bashers out there, but surely having a go for him being premature is a bit -ahem- below the belt.

Posted: 23 Jun 2004, 11:56
by deadpan
But according to the Beeb Audley was only ahead by 3 rounds on 1 card and 1 round on 2.

It was definitely a close fight, primarily because Aud was so lazy.

I still maintain it would never have been stopped if the roles were reversed.

And thus it was a hometown stoppage.

Posted: 23 Jun 2004, 12:08
by bennie
deadpan wrote:But according to the Beeb Audley was only ahead by 3 rounds on 1 card and 1 round on 2.

It was definitely a close fight, primarily because Aud was so lazy.

I still maintain it would never have been stopped if the roles were reversed.

And thus it was a hometown stoppage.
It was a bad stoppage. The pro-Harrison crowd booed, not because they were denied a knockout (as I've seen laughably written), but because Bonin hadn't been hurt and was still in the fight.
A thought: I wonder if Harrison would have tired over the last three rounds, given all the post-fight revelations about his health? We'll never know.

Posted: 23 Jun 2004, 12:16
by bennie
latuch wrote:Sure it was a bad stoppage. After all it was a fight for the Heavyweight Champion of the World Title! 8)
What's Bonin been saying back in Poland, latuch?

Posted: 23 Jun 2004, 12:17
by J
GIMEE WODKA :wink: :lol:

Posted: 23 Jun 2004, 13:07
by Dutch Windmill
I saw Bonin against Lane and Bycek and other fights I can't recall and I was never impressed. The lack of size and power, the awkward balance, et etc. But he showed a great fighters instinct in this fight, something that Harrison lacks in my opinion.

Best of luck to Bonin, he might've had a decent chance against Krasniqi after all, as long as he would've fought him at the right distance.

Posted: 23 Jun 2004, 13:23
by tea
The rusky who fought Johansen on the same card took more of a hammering in the first than Bonin took in the whole fight and referee Foster got it bang on rescuing him in the 5th.

Posted: 23 Jun 2004, 13:26
by Dutch Windmill
Well I rather take punches from a superfeather than from a heavyweight.
I prefer to take no punches at all though :lol:

I don't think it's comparable

Posted: 23 Jun 2004, 13:57
by bennie
Come on Dutch. Pound for pound the little guys punch just as hard as the heavies. It might not look that way because they're usually better-conditioned and can soak them up more.

Posted: 23 Jun 2004, 13:57
by stujones
I have now seen the fight and perhaps I'm blind but I still can't REALLY see this back turn. He goes side on to Harrison, but had Harrison thrown a jab to the body it would have touched his back, but his arm.

Posted: 23 Jun 2004, 14:09
by Dutch Windmill
bennie wrote:Come on Dutch. Pound for pound the little guys punch just as hard as the heavies. It might not look that way because they're usually better-conditioned and can soak them up more.
I beg to differ. Superfeatherweights throw and land much more on average. to take another light weight class: Gatti - Ward would have lasted 2 rounds in heavyweights. A chin is a chin.

Posted: 23 Jun 2004, 14:13
by bennie
Dutch Windmill wrote:
bennie wrote:Come on Dutch. Pound for pound the little guys punch just as hard as the heavies. It might not look that way because they're usually better-conditioned and can soak them up more.
I beg to differ. Superfeatherweights throw and land much more on average. to take another light weight class: Gatti - Ward would have lasted 2 rounds in heavyweights. A chin is a chin.
True, but a chin on top of a fat, slow, blowing body in the case of most heavyweights (and Audley Harrison).

Posted: 23 Jun 2004, 15:02
by Lefthookhappy19
Johanneson was bombing that guy, he was pretty impressive.

Bonin was more hurt earlier in the fight when Audley landed a big left hand than when it was stopped. He didn't actually turn his back completely either.