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Everytime I see this guy Golovkin I know the sport of boxing is seeing something special.

I would say the sky is the limit for Gennady but the real limit on how far he can go is the level of opposition willing to fight him. It's a real shame we're seeing talent like Andre Ward being matched with Paul Smith, a commentator who's never made it past British level.

Golovkin would destroy Andre Ward, this guy is so good, he would need to leap 2 weight division to be evenly matched. Enjoy it while he's active.

Oh, I think there's some dispute. Ward though is so ridiculously inactive I wouldn't count him. But there's a "dispute" between Mayweather and GGG. They're not that far off in weight, but boxing promoters aren't in the habit of late of giving fans good competitive matches.

... I thought this was going to be about Roman...

GGG is very good and my favourite active fighter, but he's never shared the ring with A level opposition as a professional, so it is hard to gauge how good he actually is. For now, I think he should be at the lower end of the P4P top ten.

Tony1244 wrote:Oh, I think there's some dispute.

Only from people who don't know wtf they are watching. Mayweather p4p best in boxing, not clinching

Ricky_ wrote:

Tony1244 wrote:Oh, I think there's some dispute.

Only from people who don't know wtf they are watching. Mayweather p4p best in boxing, not clinching

Mayweather is ranked #1 PFP and GGG is ranked #4 by boxrec. Perhaps it's you who doesn't know what their watching. PFP ratings are NOT based on what makes Ricky jump up and down.

jezzamundo wrote:GGG is very good and my favourite active fighter, but he's never shared the ring with A level opposition as a professional, so it is hard to gauge how good he actually is. For now, I think he should be at the lower end of the P4P top ten.

I agree. I like GGG too. Not much for him in the division, which shines light on one of boxing's biggest problems, too many divisions. If Ward decides he wants to resume his career, those 2 should work something out. Unfortunately, we're likely to get uncompetitive crap like GGG vs Lee.

Tony1244 wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:

Tony1244 wrote:Oh, I think there's some dispute.

Only from people who don't know wtf they are watching. Mayweather p4p best in boxing, not clinching

Mayweather is ranked #1 PFP and GGG is ranked #4 by boxrec. Perhaps it's you who doesn't know what their watching. PFP ratings are NOT based on what makes Ricky jump up and down.

They are based on a points based system. 3 fighters have more points than GGG. A better 'high score'.

Golovkin has been the best fighter on this planet for some time now. Anyone who knows boxing, knows this. You crack on with the arcade points though, I guess it's helpful for casual fans.

Mayweather is ranked #1 PFP and GGG is ranked #4 by boxrec. Perhaps it's you who doesn't know what their watching. PFP ratings are NOT based on what makes Ricky jump up and down.[/quote]


They are based on a points based system. 3 fighters have more points than GGG. A better 'high score'.

Golovkin has been the best fighter on this planet for some time now. Anyone who knows boxing, knows this. You crack on with the arcade points though, I guess it's helpful for casual fans.[/quote]


Anyone who would use the phrase "undisputed PFP King" has revealed himself as a casual fan, and nothing wrong with being a casual fan. There is no such thing as undisputed PFP. It's a subjective opinion.

Anyone who would use a phrase such as "Anyone who knows boxing knows this," proves one of two points; either you have never been wrong predicting a match, or you are full of crap, I'm going with the later.

Someone who knows the names and outcomes of the 5 guys Foreman fought in Toronto, and could recite the chronological names from Sullivan to Wlad after a sleeping pill is hardly a casual fan.

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Tony1244 wrote: Mayweather is ranked #1 PFP and GGG is ranked #4 by boxrec. Perhaps it's you who doesn't know what their watching. PFP ratings are NOT based on what makes Ricky jump up and down.

I think making Ricky jump up and down has about the same value as looking at fights which happened 5,10 and more years ago.

Once GGG beats Cotto and Canelo, he will be number one. I have a feeling though he won't get to fight either one. Maybe Canelo will get enough balls by the time GGG gets to be about 38 or so. Cotto will never fight GGG.

I must have slept way longer than I thought, because I figured there was plenty of dispute. I mean Floyd, Ward(assuming he returns to the same level), Golovkin, Kovalev, Maybe Alvarez at some point, González, Inoue....etc...

Ward is very underrated,easily beat the best super middle weights on the planet and would give GGG all the problems in the world,would love to see that fight but can't see it being made for at least 18 months,just give ward the edge

Ricky_ wrote:Everytime I see this guy Golovkin I know the sport of boxing is seeing something special.

I would say the sky is the limit for Gennady but the real limit on how far he can go is the level of opposition willing to fight him. It's a real shame we're seeing talent like Andre Ward being matched with Paul Smith, a commentator who's never made it past British level.

Golovkin would destroy Andre Ward, this guy is so good, he would need to leap 2 weight division to be evenly matched. Enjoy it while he's active.

Stop your ball licking, you're going too far. He faced a guy with no punching power and couldn't hurt him but just take a look at Golovkin's face and not to mention how tired he was and the limited defense of Monroe and compare it to the fact that Ward is bigger, stronger, punches harder, has a much better defense and is far more accurate than Monroe and you can clearly tell that GGG is not going to be successful like he was vs Monroe against Ward.

When that time comes I'm willing to bet you that Ward wins and wins easily, I'm so sure of it that I say that between me and you the loser leaves the forum for one year.

Deal??

KBB wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:Everytime I see this guy Golovkin I know the sport of boxing is seeing something special.

I would say the sky is the limit for Gennady but the real limit on how far he can go is the level of opposition willing to fight him. It's a real shame we're seeing talent like Andre Ward being matched with Paul Smith, a commentator who's never made it past British level.

Golovkin would destroy Andre Ward, this guy is so good, he would need to leap 2 weight division to be evenly matched. Enjoy it while he's active.

Stop your ball licking, you're going too far. He faced a guy with no punching power and couldn't hurt him but just take a look at Golovkin's face and not to mention how tired he was and the limited defense of Monroe and compare it to the fact that Ward is bigger, stronger, punches harder, has a much better defense and is far more accurate than Monroe and you can clearly tell that GGG is not going to be successful like he was vs Monroe against Ward.

When that time comes I'm willing to bet you that Ward wins and wins easily, I'm so sure of it that I say that between me and you the loser leaves the forum for one year.

Deal??

Why would i make a bet like that with someone who's had multiple accounts after being banned? I'll place my bet's with the bookmaker thanks, GGG will destroy Ward. I guess you'll root for Andre though because who you cheer for is race dependent.

Ricky_ wrote:Why would i make a bet like that with someone who's had multiple accounts after being banned? I'll place my bet's with the bookmaker thanks, GGG will destroy Ward. I guess you'll root for Andre though because who you cheer for is race dependent.

LOL, now you are doing like that asswipe (FreeDUMB) and pulling some BS race card that doesn't exist with me, so I guess I was picking by race when I picked Maidana to beat Broner, huh??

I picked my fighter's based on their skills and Ward is more skillful than GGG, as far as accounts, you continue to make the dumb assessment that I have multiple accounts when I told you to contact that Moderators to see how many accounts I have.

The Brut account I do not use at all, I only use the KBB account.

So if you are a scared bitch to back up your BS claim then just say so, otherwise don't hide behind you making some fake bets with some fake bookermaker with your broke ass.

Man up, if you are a real man and take the bet to stand behind your claim, otherwise you're a coward and fraud.

jezzamundo wrote:GGG is very good and my favourite active fighter, but he's never shared the ring with A level opposition as a professional, so it is hard to gauge how good he actually is. For now, I think he should be at the lower end of the P4P top ten.

You make it sound like ggg only fought a bit like aa is doing now, ottke, calzaghe and so on. He is not. He is fighting the best available, in all the abs rankings, and has with great ease cruised through this sites top 20 mw.

What is a level ? Only ward, klitchko, pacquiao, froch, rigondeaux ?
In the abscense of martinez, Out of gggs last 15 opponents, how many of them were not considered absolut top of mwdivision until ggg massacered them ?
Its not like he is disposing of the tomato cans is it ?

KBB wrote:
I picked my fighter's based on their skills

You started a thread entitled "TAKING PRIDE IN ONES RACE" which was about rooting for fighters the same race as you, which was deleted i'm sure cause it was racist.

Did GGG look that great? He stopped moving his head and started taking clean shots over and over.

Yes, his chin stood up, but Monroe was not a powerful puncher. Though, to be fair, GGG probably felt that and elected to walk through shots to finish the fight. Nonetheless, getting hit clean repeatedly is never necessary.

Yes, he got the KO, but it wasn't exactly a scintillating performance in my estimation.

I simply don't see how he looked Saturday as being a good indication that he would obliterate Andre Ward, in fact, if anything, it looked like the opposite.

I agree 100 percent with a post I saw here a day or two ago saying that GGG is starting to stagnate and perhaps is running the risk of developing bad habits because they are not finding a way to get him into the ring with a genuine risk. The guys he is beating are perfectly fine opponents and clearly solid fighters (I am not big on dumping on guys who get in the ring or dumping on resumes of fighters), but he has not truly run the risk of losing....ever...IMO.

Now, Gonzalez on the other hand? Holy crap....that was pretty impressive.

jas80s wrote:Did GGG look that great? He stopped moving his head and started taking clean shots over and over.

Yes, his chin stood up, but Monroe was not a powerful puncher. Though, to be fair, GGG probably felt that and elected to walk through shots to finish the fight. Nonetheless, getting hit clean repeatedly is never necessary.

Yes, he got the KO, but it wasn't exactly a scintillating performance in my estimation.

I simply don't see how he looked Saturday as being a good indication that he would obliterate Andre Ward, in fact, if anything, it looked like the opposite.

I agree 100 percent with a post I saw here a day or two ago saying that GGG is starting to stagnate and perhaps is running the risk of developing bad habits because they are not finding a way to get him into the ring with a genuine risk. The guys he is beating are perfectly fine opponents and clearly solid fighters (I am not big on dumping on guys who get in the ring or dumping on resumes of fighters), but he has not truly run the risk of losing....ever...IMO.

Now, Gonzalez on the other hand? Holy crap....that was pretty impressive.

Exactly!!

He beat a fighter with 19 wins and what, 6 by KO and here are those HATERS who come here to take a poke at Floyd who is beating guys with a record of 57-6-2 record who are champions in multiple weight classes and making it look easy doing it and still we have people here pretending he just beat one of the Klitschkos or something.

I give GGG his credit, he's a good boxer but he is only doing what he is supposed to be doing against inferior talent, until he beats the likes of Cotto, Canelo, Ward, Kovalev/Beterbiev then y'all can come back here with D*cksucking posts like Undisputed P4P and crap like that

Do you seriously think that he would fight Ward the same way ? Didn't you see two different Golovkins, one in the first two rounds and the other one after that ? He is a fluent boxer, but he wanted to please the crowd after he demonstrated his skill superiority in the first two.

ikorolev wrote:Do you seriously think that he would fight Ward the same way ? Didn't you see two different Golovkins, one in the first two rounds and the other one after that ? He is a fluent boxer, but he wanted to please the crowd after he demonstrated his skill superiority in the first two.

I saw a GGG that got swollen up around the eyes by a featherfisted puncher, I also saw one who was winded after a few rounds, why is that so hard for you for me to admit the truth??

He didn't just beat Goliath, he beat Monroe (an unproven fighter) who only has 6 KO's not particularly some fighter he needs to be worried about hurting him.

His punching power was on display and he did what he had to do, why you act as if I'm hating on him by saying the truth? I told you that I like GGG and I think he's a great Ambassador for the sport but he is unproven.

No hard feelings dude, you just refuse to see the truth.

i rather have somebody limited, but super fun to watch. than somebody extremly skilled, but boring to watch.

ggg is limited and will never be a jones jr type of guy, but in terms of excitemant and bringing action he is at the very peak. just pure enjoymant to watch him box.

Limited based on what ? He chose to fight like that after the second round which doesn't mean that he can't fight differently.