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Credit to Cotto because he always takes competitive fights, he gave Trout his shot when that might have been better avoided stylistically. Martinez was a risk because Cotto couldn't have known how shot he really was.

I think this will be a tough fight for Cotto, he's a calibre ahead of Geale in truth but he's fighting a seasoned middleweight here that has size on him.

And how much reward is there really for Cotto? Can he beat Geale as impressively as Golovkin? No. And even if he did, it would then lead for greater calls for Cotto to fight Golovkin.

Cotto needs to find his space in the sort. Is he claiming to be the number #1 in the middleweight division? Cotto floundering around at Middleweight to me feels like Floyd hanging around at light-middleweight. He wasn't prepared to face the guy (canelo) at the full weight class limit, nor give legit contenders like Lara or Trout a look in. He disrespected the division for the sake of a couple of prize-fights. Cotto is doing the same thing right now by avoiding Golovkin and implementing BS catchweights.

I see Cotto taking a bit of punishment in this fight but coming away with a hard fought win, then announcing his place in the sport is 154, setting up the super-fight with Canelo.

Geale is looking shopworn. And was never that good to begin with.

diddy wrote:Geale is looking shopworn. And was never that good to begin with.

But he is a solid middleweight, I think Miguel boxes to a decision win.

If Geale manages to keep Cotto outside, he will win.

The only reason i see geale not winning is the catch weight. I know 3 lbs isnt a lot but it is still 3lbs of muscle he would be relying on to be the bigger stronger man. Geale is just as fast in hands speed and has footwork to match. He isnt a big puncher at 160lb but cotto isnt 160lb. He has the reach and he jas the height advantage. And he he has incredible stamina with good skills to boot. Cotto is more experienced more aggressive and has good power up to light middle but this fight isnt ar light middleweight. I honestly feel like this is 50 50 fight. Though i do believe that geale wiĺ have to do more than just win the fight to get the decision. Not claiming corruption or anything like that but geale is going to have to really take the championship off of cotto. He is not.going to get it by hitting the other guy more than he gets hit. And i think that's fine. At least if Geale wins we will see the unification of the titles. He WILL fight ggg again and probably loose again but in a less lopsided fashion .

Geale never looked muscular at 160. I always thought that he could get rid of some of his flabbiness. At 30-day weigh-in, he was at 158, while Cotto was at 165. So, if anything, Geale was too light obviously not having problems with cutting weight.

Some of you overrate Geale. Cotto is no middleweight but Geale has never beaten anyone near his talent level. Geale isn't even on Austin Trout's level. It's not like he's gonna use his speed and size to outbox Cotto. Geale is too slow to keep Cotto off him all night. He's not a good enough athlete. He will generally stand in front of Cotto.

diddy wrote:Some of you overrate Geale. Cotto is no middleweight but Geale has never beaten anyone near his talent level. Geale isn't even on Austin Trout's level. It's not like he's gonna use his speed and size to outbox Cotto. Geale is too slow to keep Cotto off him all night. He's not a good enough athlete. He will generally stand in front of Cotto.

Last I checked, Cotto lost to Trout. Has something changed?

The real difference here is the catch-weight. Geale hasn't fought under 159 in eight years. The weight is significant or the Cotto camp would not have insisted on it. Cotto has never fought a full fledged middle weight that was not completely shot. Geale may not be a great boxer but he is a legit MW and he has been in with very solid MW competition for years.

You may not consider Sturm to be on Cotto's level but he is no slouch. Geale got the decision from him. He has only been stopped once by 3G. The only other losses were SDs to Mundine and Barker, both of which could have gone either way, IMO.

If this was to be fought at the proper weight limit I would take Geale. If he can come in at full strength v Cotto, catch-weight be damned, Miguel is in for one helluva fight. I believe that Geale was embarrassed by his performance v 3G. He has something to prove, and Cotto has been inactive for a year.

I think Cotto has much better punch delivery and that's why his shots will do more damage, look better to the judges, and win the decision/get a late stoppage. Geale has phenomenal conditioning and a huge heart so it should be a good one.

Tanzio wrote:

diddy wrote:Some of you overrate Geale. Cotto is no middleweight but Geale has never beaten anyone near his talent level. Geale isn't even on Austin Trout's level. It's not like he's gonna use his speed and size to outbox Cotto. Geale is too slow to keep Cotto off him all night. He's not a good enough athlete. He will generally stand in front of Cotto.

Last I checked, Cotto lost to Trout. Has something changed?

That is why I mentioned Trout. Because he beat Cotto. Was drawing parallels between Trout and Geale. Geale isnt the sort of athletic style matchup that Trout is. Imagine with Demetrius Andrade would do to Cotto. Or Lara. Box his face off. Geale isnt on the level of those guys. He's ordinary and unathletic.

Sturm has been basically shot for 3-4 yrs. The guy that "lost to" Oscar hasnt been around in quite some time.

diddy wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

diddy wrote:Some of you overrate Geale. Cotto is no middleweight but Geale has never beaten anyone near his talent level. Geale isn't even on Austin Trout's level. It's not like he's gonna use his speed and size to outbox Cotto. Geale is too slow to keep Cotto off him all night. He's not a good enough athlete. He will generally stand in front of Cotto.

Last I checked, Cotto lost to Trout. Has something changed?

That is why I mentioned Trout. Because he beat Cotto. Was drawing parallels between Trout and Geale. Geale isnt the sort of athletic style matchup that Trout is. Imagine with Demetrius Andrade would do to Cotto. Or Lara. Box his face off. Geale isnt on the level of those guys. He's ordinary and unathletic.

Geale is far tougher than Trout, and his boxing skills are underrated.

Styles make fights. Cotto couldnt beat Trout because Trout used his athleticism and speed to keep him on the outside and dodge Cotto's rushes. Geale would have no such advantages vs Cotto. Yes he's tough - and he stands in front of guys. That's what Cotto wants - you to be "tough" and stand in front so he can get inside on you and throw combinations, outwork you. Geale is gonna be where Cotto wants him, in the pocket. The only guy to stand in front of Cotto and beat him was fighting with concrete in his gloves. Without the plaster we saw how Margarito fared against Cotto. Other than plaster, the only guys to beat Cotto - Trout, Floyd, Pac, used their speed and athleticism advantages to subdue him. Geale is no athlete.

I feel that geale is better than trout he has done more . How can someone be un athletic and have an amazing work rate and stamina?

diddy wrote:Styles make fights. Cotto couldnt beat Trout because Trout used his athleticism and speed to keep him on the outside and dodge Cotto's rushes. Geale would have no such advantages vs Cotto. Yes he's tough - and he stands in front of guys. That's what Cotto wants - you to be "tough" and stand in front so he can get inside on you and throw combinations, outwork you. Geale is gonna be where Cotto wants him, in the pocket. The only guy to stand in front of Cotto and beat him was fighting with concrete in his gloves. Without the plaster we saw how Margarito fared against Cotto. Other than plaster, the only guys to beat Cotto - Trout, Floyd, Pac, used their speed and athleticism advantages to subdue him. Geale is no athlete.

Geale is no shot Cheato. I expect Cotto to get the decision on the strength of the catch-weight and his star power. If Geale is actually at full strength though, Cotto may get torn up by a bigger, stronger, less athletic man.

Boring fight, hate Cotto, Danny is past it as is Miguel.

macaca wrote:Boring fight, hate Cotto, Danny is past it as is Miguel.

scottearley123456 wrote:I feel that geale is better than trout he has done more . How can someone be un athletic and have an amazing work rate and stamina?

Good Lord, is this that complicated to understand? If you think Geale is the same level of athlete as Trout you are blind or just dumb. Watch the Trout fight vs Cotto again. Trout had the plus athletic ability to keep Cotto at arm's distance and blunt his attacks with agility and movement. Now watch Daniel Geale fight, well, anyone. There is little agility or much in the way of plus level athleticism. I'm not saying Geale is a poor athlete but he's not the sort of athlete who can use agility to get himself out of trouble or blunt another guy's attacks via movement. Not to mention the Geale we have seen lately very little resembles the guy we saw years ago. He's taken massive beatings. Now Cotto isnt what he was either but he's still super aggressive and the punches flow better.

scottearley123456 wrote:I feel that geale is better than trout he has done more . How can someone be unathletic and have an amazing work rate and stamina?

I was wondering exactly the same thing.

diddy wrote:

scottearley123456 wrote:I feel that geale is better than trout he has done more . How can someone be un athletic and have an amazing work rate and stamina?

Good Lord, is this that complicated to understand? If you think Geale is the same level of athlete as Trout you are blind or just dumb. Watch the Trout fight vs Cotto again. Trout had the plus athletic ability to keep Cotto at arm's distance and blunt his attacks with agility and movement. Now watch Daniel Geale fight, well, anyone. There is little agility or much in the way of plus level athleticism. I'm not saying Geale is a poor athlete but he's not the sort of athlete who can use agility to get himself out of trouble or blunt another guy's attacks via movement. Not to mention the Geale we have seen lately very little resembles the guy we saw years ago. He's taken massive beatings. Now Cotto isnt what he was either but he's still super aggressive and the punches flow better.

"Geale is a poor athlete" ???

Like a Boss wrote:

diddy wrote:

scottearley123456 wrote:I feel that geale is better than trout he has done more . How can someone be un athletic and have an amazing work rate and stamina?

Good Lord, is this that complicated to understand? If you think Geale is the same level of athlete as Trout you are blind or just dumb. Watch the Trout fight vs Cotto again. Trout had the plus athletic ability to keep Cotto at arm's distance and blunt his attacks with agility and movement. Now watch Daniel Geale fight, well, anyone. There is little agility or much in the way of plus level athleticism. I'm not saying Geale is a poor athlete but he's not the sort of athlete who can use agility to get himself out of trouble or blunt another guy's attacks via movement. Not to mention the Geale we have seen lately very little resembles the guy we saw years ago. He's taken massive beatings. Now Cotto isnt what he was either but he's still super aggressive and the punches flow better.

"Geale is a poor athlete" ???

You must be Aussie. Amirite?

diddy wrote:

Like a Boss wrote:

diddy wrote:
Good Lord, is this that complicated to understand? If you think Geale is the same level of athlete as Trout you are blind or just dumb. Watch the Trout fight vs Cotto again. Trout had the plus athletic ability to keep Cotto at arm's distance and blunt his attacks with agility and movement. Now watch Daniel Geale fight, well, anyone. There is little agility or much in the way of plus level athleticism. I'm not saying Geale is a poor athlete but he's not the sort of athlete who can use agility to get himself out of trouble or blunt another guy's attacks via movement. Not to mention the Geale we have seen lately very little resembles the guy we saw years ago. He's taken massive beatings. Now Cotto isnt what he was either but he's still super aggressive and the punches flow better.

"Geale is a poor athlete" ???

You must be Aussie. Amirite?

Because I know Geale's major assets are his workrate and fitness? No. I know that because I'm a fight fan who has watched many of Geale's fights. Not because I'm Australian.

diddy wrote:Imagine with Demetrius Andrade would do to Cotto.

get ktfo?

Cotto is not the same fighter he was 5 years ago.No one will argue that.
But if Cotto is 75% of the fighter he used to be.He will still be too much for Geale.
I predict a comfortable ud12 for Cotto

sucracristo wrote:

diddy wrote:Imagine with Demetrius Andrade would do to Cotto.

get ktfo?

Oh yes because getting knocked down early in his career portends to doom in his career. Andre Ward should've retired when Darnell Boonr knocked him down. Pacquaio should've retired when he got knocked down 10 times early in his career. Wlad should've retired when he got knocked out 3 times.